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Quote from: TheGreatPython on February 07, 2023, 01:43:22 AM

Quote from: KennyR on February 06, 2023, 06:54:01 PM

Quote from: Rabi3 on February 06, 2023, 06:43:25 PM

Quote from: zuzie on February 03, 2023, 10:22:55 PM

Thankfully the injury this time wasn't too fatal, Nadal will soon recover and join in enlivening the next competition
But I'm wondering, Nadal has made many achievements in Tennis, he was injury prone in recent years, maybe the age reason, isn't Nadal planning to take a break from Tennis?
The age of this player from Spain has entered 37 years

knowing Nadal's mentality and how he plays in the court and how he never give up in every point, he won't let injuries and his age stop him from competing, I think Nadal will retire and rest is when his feet give up on him, he has that fighting spirit and it's something you can't teach, he still has time in my opinion to win some more.

Agreed, he's one such person who doesn't give up. The attitude is good, but when it comes to our physical fitness at some point we need to take rest and go on. To have a healthy life is really big task and not something simple. Beyond some age however we train ourselves the injuries that we got earlier will show the effects.

No one has doubt about 36 years old Nadal's fighting spirit and love for the tennis with now back to back injuries surely having good impact on mentality with his recent injury surely he disturbed which can hit his future as well but right now as things going most chances he will fight back and have one more try which will give better view about his future but best thing he needs to give time about this all then after consultation of his physio could be much better for his career and life after tennis because any decision can ruin his life as well which will be never ideal situation for him and his family. Healthy life is also very important as he has already done good job in this game and now have his name as one of the best players of this game.

I do agree, health comes first in any sports, but the thing with tennis is that it is not a contact sports, yeah you can get injured or something, but I don't think it will be life threatening. So it won't ruin his life as you have described it, we haven't heard anyone who retire from tennis because of injuries and then just destroyed his future.

Nadal can still push for one more Grand slam for this year, I reckon. And if he didn't win because his body fails him, then maybe he can contemplate on retiring. And then have a life beyond tennis, but it's far from being ruined or something.

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Quote from: KennyR on February 06, 2023, 06:54:01 PM

Quote from: Rabi3 on February 06, 2023, 06:43:25 PM

Quote from: zuzie on February 03, 2023, 10:22:55 PM

Thankfully the injury this time wasn't too fatal, Nadal will soon recover and join in enlivening the next competition
But I'm wondering, Nadal has made many achievements in Tennis, he was injury prone in recent years, maybe the age reason, isn't Nadal planning to take a break from Tennis?
The age of this player from Spain has entered 37 years

knowing Nadal's mentality and how he plays in the court and how he never give up in every point, he won't let injuries and his age stop him from competing, I think Nadal will retire and rest is when his feet give up on him, he has that fighting spirit and it's something you can't teach, he still has time in my opinion to win some more.

Agreed, he's one such person who doesn't give up. The attitude is good, but when it comes to our physical fitness at some point we need to take rest and go on. To have a healthy life is really big task and not something simple. Beyond some age however we train ourselves the injuries that we got earlier will show the effects.

No one has doubt about 36 years old Nadal's fighting spirit and love for the tennis with now back to back injuries surely having good impact on mentality with his recent injury surely he disturbed which can hit his future as well but right now as things going most chances he will fight back and have one more try which will give better view about his future but best thing he needs to give time about this all then after consultation of his physio could be much better for his career and life after tennis because any decision can ruin his life as well which will be never ideal situation for him and his family. Healthy life is also very important as he has already done good job in this game and now have his name as one of the best players of this game.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on February 06, 2023, 06:43:25 PM

Quote from: zuzie on February 03, 2023, 10:22:55 PM

Quote from: Theones on February 03, 2023, 06:30:47 PM

Quote from: Rabi3 on January 30, 2023, 06:43:10 PM

I'm not going to give up on Nadal yet, we all know he's getting kind of old and injuries affect tennis players a lot since it's a one player game, but he's not the type of player to give up easily, he had his downs throughout his career and bounced back, I'm expecting him to win a couple of big tournaments before he retires, if his body doesn't bring him down, the mentality to win will always be there with El Matador.

me too - for me Nadal has always been a legend to me.
YOu are right he would not give up that easily - but that too is true -sometime the injuries are fatal and they kick off the players off their career.

Thankfully the injury this time wasn't too fatal, Nadal will soon recover and join in enlivening the next competition
But I'm wondering, Nadal has made many achievements in Tennis, he was injury prone in recent years, maybe the age reason, isn't Nadal planning to take a break from Tennis?
The age of this player from Spain has entered 37 years

knowing Nadal's mentality and how he plays in the court and how he never give up in every point, he won't let injuries and his age stop him from competing, I think Nadal will retire and rest is when his feet give up on him, he has that fighting spirit and it's something you can't teach, he still has time in my opinion to win some more.

Agreed, he's one such person who doesn't give up. The attitude is good, but when it comes to our physical fitness at some point we need to take rest and go on. To have a healthy life is really big task and not something simple. Beyond some age however we train ourselves the injuries that we got earlier will show the effects.

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Quote from: zuzie on February 03, 2023, 10:22:55 PM

Quote from: Theones on February 03, 2023, 06:30:47 PM

Quote from: Rabi3 on January 30, 2023, 06:43:10 PM

I'm not going to give up on Nadal yet, we all know he's getting kind of old and injuries affect tennis players a lot since it's a one player game, but he's not the type of player to give up easily, he had his downs throughout his career and bounced back, I'm expecting him to win a couple of big tournaments before he retires, if his body doesn't bring him down, the mentality to win will always be there with El Matador.

me too - for me Nadal has always been a legend to me.
YOu are right he would not give up that easily - but that too is true -sometime the injuries are fatal and they kick off the players off their career.

Thankfully the injury this time wasn't too fatal, Nadal will soon recover and join in enlivening the next competition
But I'm wondering, Nadal has made many achievements in Tennis, he was injury prone in recent years, maybe the age reason, isn't Nadal planning to take a break from Tennis?
The age of this player from Spain has entered 37 years

knowing Nadal's mentality and how he plays in the court and how he never give up in every point, he won't let injuries and his age stop him from competing, I think Nadal will retire and rest is when his feet give up on him, he has that fighting spirit and it's something you can't teach, he still has time in my opinion to win some more.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 05, 2023, 08:02:36 AM

In fact, it is incredible that the dominance of the "big three" in men's tennis has lasted so long and that together they have won as many as 64 GS. Something like this will probably never happen again in the history of tennis or any other sport, that three of the best athletes compete at the same time, against each other.
I had much higher expectations from Medvedev, Zverev, Tsitsipas, Thiem and other young hopefuls, but even though some of them managed to win some GS, they still could not break the dominance of the big three.
Whether Alcaraz can do that this year and end their dominance, if fit and healthy, remains to be seen.

There is no doubt this was golden era of tennis with we have one clay king and two were good for the all courts and enjoy very long time here in tennis and have amazing wins and games as well many are still existed in fans minds and with this all we have many records as well which are going to exist for the long era as well because now in coming era we have no player who can give performance like this even we have few good players, but these all are not near in quality and performance to these three with the retirement of the Federer now we have just two remaining and one is still had chance to rule this game for few more years as Nadal is not fully fit and most chances he could be also not on same level which was he playing few years back.

I was also hoping for the best from Medvedev, Zverev and Tsitsipas but things looking not like we have in past from these legendary players while Alcaraz is out with injury and how can he handle things in future this is also not clear.

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Quote from: aoluain on February 05, 2023, 07:35:45 PM

Was anyone following the WTA tournament at Lyon last week? I didnt have any bets on
but watched highlights of some matches during the week. The final today was between Garcia
and Parks and Parks won in 2 sets.

I know the WTA can be unpredictable but Parks could be one to watch this year, she beat
the 4th seed Martic and 7th seed Kovinic on her way to the final. I saw the first set yesterday
before switching over to the Italy v France Rugby game and she looks to be really focussed
and mentally strong and has a fairly powerful service game!

Looking at the final scores it's a tight match and the unseeded Parks impressed to beat Garcia who won the WTA Finals last year so Parks will be another young tennis player who will be a strong contender and will make the WTA tournament even more difficult to predict, but sometimes on the women's side we see how she looks impressive in one tournament and then becomes inconsistent only a few continue to perform consistently

22 years old new USA tennis star can provide some more entertaining tennis this could be big question because recently we have few good exciting tennis players but mostly were unable to stay at same level after few events which is surely big problem for them because mostly we can't talk about WTA with now many legendries are already out and new generation is not having focus and stamina like them with we also have many other issues related to women's which are not talk able here but still a good win for her as she beats 5th rank player in WTA in very tight final which is surely going to have good for her specially while now we are heading for the French open can this give her some boost for this big event nothing is clear yet about this all.

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Quote from: aoluain on February 05, 2023, 07:35:45 PM

Was anyone following the WTA tournament at Lyon last week? I didnt have any bets on
but watched highlights of some matches during the week. The final today was between Garcia
and Parks and Parks won in 2 sets.

I know the WTA can be unpredictable but Parks could be one to watch this year, she beat
the 4th seed Martic and 7th seed Kovinic on her way to the final. I saw the first set yesterday
before switching over to the Italy v France Rugby game and she looks to be really focussed
and mentally strong and has a fairly powerful service game!

Looking at the final scores it's a tight match and the unseeded Parks impressed to beat Garcia who won the WTA Finals last year so Parks will be another young tennis player who will be a strong contender and will make the WTA tournament even more difficult to predict, but sometimes on the women's side we see how she looks impressive in one tournament and then becomes inconsistent only a few continue to perform consistently

She has only been on the tour since 2021 and this is her first title. If she keeps that level
of performance it will indeed be even more difficult to predict.

She plays tomorrow at Lunz Austria in both singles and doubles. It will be interesting
to see where her head is after the win yesterday.

The odds ATM on this match are: Parks 2.05 - 1.69 Kalinina, I might do a $2 bet
on Parks having said all above?

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me too - for me Nadal has always been a legend to me.
YOu are right he would not give up that easily - but that too is true -sometime the injuries are fatal and they kick off the players off their career.

It's not just about giving up, you have to see how Federer is still trying to be able to play and win the GS especially Wimbledon because it is his favorite surface but that didn't happen because an injury forced him to retire because his body was no longer able to compete and maybe Nadal would be the same but retiring with such great achievement is something to be proud of.

But I guess his injury is not that worst compare to Federer or to Andy Murray, so with proper exercise, he could rehabilitate his body to still compete at least one GS in this calendar year and chase another title and get one ahead of Djokovic.

So we will see, I doubt that he will retire though, of course his name is in the discussion of the GOAT.

But so far, Djokovic is still far from retiring so he can still more GS from Nadal, but for sure Rafa has a target for this year's slam.

Realistically, given his age and numerous injuries, I think that Nadal has a chance for perhaps only one more GS in Paris this year, but even that will be very difficult to achieve considering the competition, not only Djokovic but also the ever-improving Alcaraz.
Djokovic is slightly younger and healthier and currently seems ready to win a few more GS, primarily in Wimbledon and Australia.
If it weren't for the Covid crisis and the ban on performances for Djokovic in Australia, the cancellation of Wimbledon and other unforeseen situations, I'm sure that Djokovic would already have an unattainable advantage in the number of GS wins over Nadal.
However, if Djokovic avoids injuries and continues to play at his current level for at least two more years, I think he will have no problem winning a few more GS and becoming the GOAT.

Especially in light of Nadal and Djokovic's recent supremacy, I agree wholeheartedly that competition in the Grand Slams is always fierce. However, I believe it's significant to keep in mind that tennis is a physically demanding sport and that injuries may play a significant role in a player's performance.

Due to his age and injury history, Nadal doesn't have much of a shot of winning another Grand Slam tournament, especially in Paris. In contrast, Djokovic looks to be at the peak of his powers and prepared to add to his collection of Grand Slam titles.

There is little doubt that the Covid issue and other unexpected occurrences have had an effect on the tennis world and on players' performances. I have no doubt in my opinion that Djokovic will continue to add to his Grand Slam titles and secure his reputation as one of the greatest tennis players of all time if he can continue to play at his present level and avoid injuries.

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Quote from: babygun on February 05, 2023, 10:26:59 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on February 05, 2023, 08:02:36 AM

In fact, it is incredible that the dominance of the "big three" in men's tennis has lasted so long and that together they have won as many as 64 GS. Something like this will probably never happen again in the history of tennis or any other sport, that three of the best athletes compete at the same time, against each other.
I had much higher expectations from Medvedev, Zverev, Tsitsipas, Thiem and other young hopefuls, but even though some of them managed to win some GS, they still could not break the dominance of the big three.
Whether Alcaraz can do that this year and end their dominance, if fit and healthy, remains to be seen.

I agree, every era will have one or max 2 superstars but having 3 such a great players at the same time is something that we will not ever see again anymore I think. They dominated more than 10-15 years and now we have a lot of young talented players but no one really stands out. Alcaraz is probably the one that can win the most grand slam titles of them all but I doubt he will able to dominate the field in the same way as Federer, Nadal and Djokovic did.

Sometimes there have been even several years in a row when only Djokovic, Nadal or Federer won the Grand Slam tournaments. If you go to the Wikipedia article you can just scroll down and see the names of those three players all over the place. Imagine you were someone like Thiem or any other player with a promising future, but you have those three guys in front of you. That must even be depressing after some time Cheesy

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Quote from: aoluain on February 05, 2023, 07:35:45 PM

Was anyone following the WTA tournament at Lyon last week? I didnt have any bets on
but watched highlights of some matches during the week. The final today was between Garcia
and Parks and Parks won in 2 sets.

I know the WTA can be unpredictable but Parks could be one to watch this year, she beat
the 4th seed Martic and 7th seed Kovinic on her way to the final. I saw the first set yesterday
before switching over to the Italy v France Rugby game and she looks to be really focussed
and mentally strong and has a fairly powerful service game!

Looking at the final scores it's a tight match and the unseeded Parks impressed to beat Garcia who won the WTA Finals last year so Parks will be another young tennis player who will be a strong contender and will make the WTA tournament even more difficult to predict, but sometimes on the women's side we see how she looks impressive in one tournament and then becomes inconsistent only a few continue to perform consistently

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 05, 2023, 08:02:36 AM

In fact, it is incredible that the dominance of the "big three" in men's tennis has lasted so long and that together they have won as many as 64 GS. Something like this will probably never happen again in the history of tennis or any other sport, that three of the best athletes compete at the same time, against each other.
I had much higher expectations from Medvedev, Zverev, Tsitsipas, Thiem and other young hopefuls, but even though some of them managed to win some GS, they still could not break the dominance of the big three.
Whether Alcaraz can do that this year and end their dominance, if fit and healthy, remains to be seen.

I agree, every era will have one or max 2 superstars but having 3 such a great players at the same time is something that we will not ever see again anymore I think. They dominated more than 10-15 years and now we have a lot of young talented players but no one really stands out. Alcaraz is probably the one that can win the most grand slam titles of them all but I doubt he will able to dominate the field in the same way as Federer, Nadal and Djokovic did.

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Was anyone following the WTA tournament at Lyon last week? I didnt have any bets on
but watched highlights of some matches during the week. The final today was between Garcia
and Parks and Parks won in 2 sets.

I know the WTA can be unpredictable but Parks could be one to watch this year, she beat
the 4th seed Martic and 7th seed Kovinic on her way to the final. I saw the first set yesterday
before switching over to the Italy v France Rugby game and she looks to be really focussed
and mentally strong and has a fairly powerful service game!

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 05, 2023, 08:02:36 AM

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Quote from: Theones on February 03, 2023, 06:30:47 PM

me too - for me Nadal has always been a legend to me.
YOu are right he would not give up that easily - but that too is true -sometime the injuries are fatal and they kick off the players off their career.

It's not just about giving up, you have to see how Federer is still trying to be able to play and win the GS especially Wimbledon because it is his favorite surface but that didn't happen because an injury forced him to retire because his body was no longer able to compete and maybe Nadal would be the same but retiring with such great achievement is something to be proud of.

But I guess his injury is not that worst compare to Federer or to Andy Murray, so with proper exercise, he could rehabilitate his body to still compete at least one GS in this calendar year and chase another title and get one ahead of Djokovic.

So we will see, I doubt that he will retire though, of course his name is in the discussion of the GOAT.
But so far, Djokovic is still far from retiring so he can still more GS from Nadal, but for sure Rafa has a target for this year's slam.

His injury is not so serious. But what I think is it is already hard for him to actually perform at the top level considering his age. He is already having to play against a lot of younger and agile players. It is going to be harder for him if he has to play with even a little bit of injury on top of that.

Djokovic is not retiring soon. But we have to remember that he is also 35 years old. Sometimes it is actually hard to believe that Rafael Nadal is 36 years old and Novak Djokovic is 35.

Yes I agree with that also, it is hard to believe Djokovic is 35 and still looking very strong
and injury free. I would argue if COVID hadnt have happened he would be ahead in GS
titles now, but yea thats only speculation.

Anyway it will be hard to bet against him when he is playing anyone other than Alcaraz?
Provided Alcaraz can return strong and injury free.

In fact, it is incredible that the dominance of the "big three" in men's tennis has lasted so long and that together they have won as many as 64 GS. Something like this will probably never happen again in the history of tennis or any other sport, that three of the best athletes compete at the same time, against each other.
I had much higher expectations from Medvedev, Zverev, Tsitsipas, Thiem and other young hopefuls, but even though some of them managed to win some GS, they still could not break the dominance of the big three.
Whether Alcaraz can do that this year and end their dominance, if fit and healthy, remains to be seen.

It is exactly as you say. Maybe we will see another duel like Federer vs. Nadal or Djokovic for that matter during a certain period of time in the future, but having three GOATs at the same time is just insane even if for the only reason that they haven't been injured a lot. Yes I know that there have been some injuries, yet they were able to play still there mid 30s and even beyond that. Nobody retired at age 32. They have all pulverized existing records all the time. Federer in Wimbledon, Nadal at the French Open, which is never going to be repeated, and Djokovic at the Australian Open. And Djokovic isn't done yet. He might indeed take home the GS all time record. I think Nadal is close to crossing the line in terms of physical health. Mentally the guy is still a monster, but his body seems to not keep up with his mind anymore.

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me too - for me Nadal has always been a legend to me.
YOu are right he would not give up that easily - but that too is true -sometime the injuries are fatal and they kick off the players off their career.

It's not just about giving up, you have to see how Federer is still trying to be able to play and win the GS especially Wimbledon because it is his favorite surface but that didn't happen because an injury forced him to retire because his body was no longer able to compete and maybe Nadal would be the same but retiring with such great achievement is something to be proud of.

But I guess his injury is not that worst compare to Federer or to Andy Murray, so with proper exercise, he could rehabilitate his body to still compete at least one GS in this calendar year and chase another title and get one ahead of Djokovic.

So we will see, I doubt that he will retire though, of course his name is in the discussion of the GOAT.
But so far, Djokovic is still far from retiring so he can still more GS from Nadal, but for sure Rafa has a target for this year's slam.

His injury is not so serious. But what I think is it is already hard for him to actually perform at the top level considering his age. He is already having to play against a lot of younger and agile players. It is going to be harder for him if he has to play with even a little bit of injury on top of that.

Djokovic is not retiring soon. But we have to remember that he is also 35 years old. Sometimes it is actually hard to believe that Rafael Nadal is 36 years old and Novak Djokovic is 35.

Yes I agree with that also, it is hard to believe Djokovic is 35 and still looking very strong
and injury free. I would argue if COVID hadnt have happened he would be ahead in GS
titles now, but yea thats only speculation.

Anyway it will be hard to bet against him when he is playing anyone other than Alcaraz?
Provided Alcaraz can return strong and injury free.

In fact, it is incredible that the dominance of the "big three" in men's tennis has lasted so long and that together they have won as many as 64 GS. Something like this will probably never happen again in the history of tennis or any other sport, that three of the best athletes compete at the same time, against each other.
I had much higher expectations from Medvedev, Zverev, Tsitsipas, Thiem and other young hopefuls, but even though some of them managed to win some GS, they still could not break the dominance of the big three.
Whether Alcaraz can do that this year and end their dominance, if fit and healthy, remains to be seen.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on February 04, 2023, 11:10:40 AM

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Quote from: Theones on February 03, 2023, 06:30:47 PM

me too - for me Nadal has always been a legend to me.
YOu are right he would not give up that easily - but that too is true -sometime the injuries are fatal and they kick off the players off their career.

It's not just about giving up, you have to see how Federer is still trying to be able to play and win the GS especially Wimbledon because it is his favorite surface but that didn't happen because an injury forced him to retire because his body was no longer able to compete and maybe Nadal would be the same but retiring with such great achievement is something to be proud of.

But I guess his injury is not that worst compare to Federer or to Andy Murray, so with proper exercise, he could rehabilitate his body to still compete at least one GS in this calendar year and chase another title and get one ahead of Djokovic.

So we will see, I doubt that he will retire though, of course his name is in the discussion of the GOAT.
But so far, Djokovic is still far from retiring so he can still more GS from Nadal, but for sure Rafa has a target for this year's slam.

His injury is not so serious. But what I think is it is already hard for him to actually perform at the top level considering his age. He is already having to play against a lot of younger and agile players. It is going to be harder for him if he has to play with even a little bit of injury on top of that.

Djokovic is not retiring soon. But we have to remember that he is also 35 years old. Sometimes it is actually hard to believe that Rafael Nadal is 36 years old and Novak Djokovic is 35.

Yes I agree with that also, it is hard to believe Djokovic is 35 and still looking very strong
and injury free. I would argue if COVID hadnt have happened he would be ahead in GS
titles now, but yea thats only speculation.

Anyway it will be hard to bet against him when he is playing anyone other than Alcaraz?
Provided Alcaraz can return strong and injury free.

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 04, 2023, 02:57:13 AM

Quote from: Strongkored on February 04, 2023, 01:12:55 AM

Quote from: Theones on February 03, 2023, 06:30:47 PM

me too - for me Nadal has always been a legend to me.
YOu are right he would not give up that easily - but that too is true -sometime the injuries are fatal and they kick off the players off their career.

It's not just about giving up, you have to see how Federer is still trying to be able to play and win the GS especially Wimbledon because it is his favorite surface but that didn't happen because an injury forced him to retire because his body was no longer able to compete and maybe Nadal would be the same but retiring with such great achievement is something to be proud of.

But I guess his injury is not that worst compare to Federer or to Andy Murray, so with proper exercise, he could rehabilitate his body to still compete at least one GS in this calendar year and chase another title and get one ahead of Djokovic.

So we will see, I doubt that he will retire though, of course his name is in the discussion of the GOAT.
But so far, Djokovic is still far from retiring so he can still more GS from Nadal, but for sure Rafa has a target for this year's slam.

His injury is not so serious. But what I think is it is already hard for him to actually perform at the top level considering his age. He is already having to play against a lot of younger and agile players. It is going to be harder for him if he has to play with even a little bit of injury on top of that.

Djokovic is not retiring soon. But we have to remember that he is also 35 years old. Sometimes it is actually hard to believe that Rafael Nadal is 36 years old and Novak Djokovic is 35.

Quote from: dezoel on February 03, 2023, 04:16:59 PM

There is no doubt right now Novak Djokovic is physically and mentally the best player in Tennis, and he can do better in near future and with the absence of Alcaraz things were never been difficult for him because as he gives his best I have feeling Alcaraz is also not near his game and needs good time for giving him challenge mostly new generation players are not having consistency which is problem and surely Novak Djokovic can take good advantage of this all.

As we have too many players for the future but mostly are not giving results which were expected things are looking not impressive, and maybe we will have these few legendary players last as those are dominating and have too many records in this game few months back there were few rumours about Medvedev and Tsitsipass but now these both are declined in performance and quality.

This year's grand slam is going to be really competitive between a lot of great players like Rafael Nadal, Djokovic, Alcaraz, etc. It is going to be very competitive. I know that right now Novak Djokovic is the best player. Actually, I think there is going to be a draw between Djokovic and Alcaraz if we talk about who is the best player right now. And I honestly think that if it comes down to Djokovic versus Alcaraz in the final, it is going to be really interesting.

I will still say that Alcaraz might be the winner because he is younger and that is going to help him a lot against older opponents like Djokovic

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me too - for me Nadal has always been a legend to me.
YOu are right he would not give up that easily - but that too is true -sometime the injuries are fatal and they kick off the players off their career.

It's not just about giving up, you have to see how Federer is still trying to be able to play and win the GS especially Wimbledon because it is his favorite surface but that didn't happen because an injury forced him to retire because his body was no longer able to compete and maybe Nadal would be the same but retiring with such great achievement is something to be proud of.

But I guess his injury is not that worst compare to Federer or to Andy Murray, so with proper exercise, he could rehabilitate his body to still compete at least one GS in this calendar year and chase another title and get one ahead of Djokovic.

So we will see, I doubt that he will retire though, of course his name is in the discussion of the GOAT.

But so far, Djokovic is still far from retiring so he can still more GS from Nadal, but for sure Rafa has a target for this year's slam.

Realistically, given his age and numerous injuries, I think that Nadal has a chance for perhaps only one more GS in Paris this year, but even that will be very difficult to achieve considering the competition, not only Djokovic but also the ever-improving Alcaraz.
Djokovic is slightly younger and healthier and currently seems ready to win a few more GS, primarily in Wimbledon and Australia.
If it weren't for the Covid crisis and the ban on performances for Djokovic in Australia, the cancellation of Wimbledon and other unforeseen situations, I'm sure that Djokovic would already have an unattainable advantage in the number of GS wins over Nadal.
However, if Djokovic avoids injuries and continues to play at his current level for at least two more years, I think he will have no problem winning a few more GS and becoming the GOAT.

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Quote from: Theones on February 03, 2023, 06:30:47 PM

me too - for me Nadal has always been a legend to me.
YOu are right he would not give up that easily - but that too is true -sometime the injuries are fatal and they kick off the players off their career.

It's not just about giving up, you have to see how Federer is still trying to be able to play and win the GS especially Wimbledon because it is his favorite surface but that didn't happen because an injury forced him to retire because his body was no longer able to compete and maybe Nadal would be the same but retiring with such great achievement is something to be proud of.

But I guess his injury is not that worst compare to Federer or to Andy Murray, so with proper exercise, he could rehabilitate his body to still compete at least one GS in this calendar year and chase another title and get one ahead of Djokovic.

So we will see, I doubt that he will retire though, of course his name is in the discussion of the GOAT.

But so far, Djokovic is still far from retiring so he can still more GS from Nadal, but for sure Rafa has a target for this year's slam.

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Quote from: Theones on February 03, 2023, 06:30:47 PM

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I'm not going to give up on Nadal yet, we all know he's getting kind of old and injuries affect tennis players a lot since it's a one player game, but he's not the type of player to give up easily, he had his downs throughout his career and bounced back, I'm expecting him to win a couple of big tournaments before he retires, if his body doesn't bring him down, the mentality to win will always be there with El Matador.

me too - for me Nadal has always been a legend to me.
YOu are right he would not give up that easily - but that too is true -sometime the injuries are fatal and they kick off the players off their career.

Yes, Nadal's career has had its ups and downs, but that's exactly what makes him so inspiring. He perseveres through adversity and finds a way to bounce back each time. It's also true, in my opinion, that his injuries are hindering his ability to perform at the same level as before they happened.

You're right, too; the competition is heating up because to the arrival of younger players like Jannik Sinne, Casper Ruud, and Alcaraz on the Spanish circuit. Nadal has a tough time keeping up with them because they are constantly raising the bar. However, he is a genuine champion, so we know he will always fight hard

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Quote from: Theones on February 03, 2023, 06:30:47 PM

me too - for me Nadal has always been a legend to me.
YOu are right he would not give up that easily - but that too is true -sometime the injuries are fatal and they kick off the players off their career.

It's not just about giving up, you have to see how Federer is still trying to be able to play and win the GS especially Wimbledon because it is his favorite surface but that didn't happen because an injury forced him to retire because his body was no longer able to compete and maybe Nadal would be the same but retiring with such great achievement is something to be proud of.

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