Topic: TerraGreen Bounty KYC-Scam - changed rules of their bounty and refused payments (Read 1206 times)

A very short update: TerraGreen has fulfilled it's promise and it seems that they they distributed the tokens to participant's tokpie accounts without having to pass KYC. I feel like they have at least figured something out regarding the issue which proves a little bit their good faith towards the the participants.

To all flag supporters, please state your opinion about this, should we all excuse them and give em another chance by removing our support, or you insist on keeping it?

I can confirm that I received the entire sum of tokens in tokpie without KYC.Waiting for other affected users to confirm.

That's true but it's almost impossible for the flag creator to find it out if everyone who got scammed has forgive the act. It's possible that some people will notice next year that they haven't received the token because when they signed up, their expectation was to get the tokens automatically (which isn't the case finally because rules were changed after the bounty had ended). And some shitcoin projects have huge delays in sending tokens so it's quite normal to wait very long for bounty rewards.
Like if Aveatrex is removing the flag because he feels fine doing it, but somewhen later another user comes over the issue and is noticing that he hasn't received tokens. Then, it's possible that he feels scammed and it's his personal right to create a new scammer flag again.


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Waiting a little bit sounds like a good solution and the scammer flag on terragreen's profile will also refer to this topic here. 

I didn't receive the tokens because I created my tokpie account long ago, messaged you on telegram about it.

I'll wait some confirmation from users that they effectively received their tokens without passing KYC before removing my support from the flag as it's a sufficient proof of your good faith in my opinion, albeit , DT members that supported the flag still need to be convinced in order to remove their support and deactivate their flag.

No, they don't need to.

Please read it again, more carefully:



All supports will be removed once everyone who got scammed forgives you.
If there is at least one person not forgiving you, the flag and support remains valid.

Yes, I specified earlier here that All participants who did not want to submit KYC and have registered on Tokpie before 26 July and did not get coin can notify on Telegram @tgncoin or to get their coin on Tokpie.
We distributed to all the participants who have registered on Tokpie from 26 August to 09 August.
So they have to now remove flag or support of the flag.

It is not just up to him, but everyone who got scammed has to forgive the act:

You can send Aveatrex (the user who created the flag) a PM to review the situation. Depending on if he has doubts or not he might remove the entire flag, it's up to him. I didn't follow all the Telegram spam and trust him to make the right decision.  

Hello
All participants who did not want to submit KYC and have registered on Tokpie before 26 July and did not get coin can notify on Telegram @tgncoin to get their coin on Tokpie.
We distributed to all the participants who have registered on Tokpie from 26 August to 09 August.
Please remove support of the red flag who got coin without KYC.

‼️‼️ IMPORTANT : Tomorrow is the last day to get TGN without KYC ‼️‼️
This option is available from July 26 to Aug 07, 2019 23:59 UTC ONLY
👉: https://tokpie.io/blog/get-terragreen-tgn-coins-on-your-tokpie-account-balance/

Thanks for the clarification. If you have a little bit time you can try to move some funds out, that would be a sufficient proof in my opinion.

Finally we can say that, I hope they keep the promise this time.


Sounds reasonable, I'll do the same once I have the confirmation.

Thank you very much for taking the time and creating the flag. I guess without your help the problem would have gone unnoticed. 

Since I transferred 50% of my stakes to tokpie long ago,I received some TGNs in my tokpie balance 2 weeks ago and it seems I can trade/withdraw them freely without passing KYC so that won't be a problem I think.

Only results matter right? 

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From what I've undertood,they are going to distribute the tokens in users tokpie account because somehow tokpie is able to allow deposit/withdrawals without KYC if the sum is under 2500$ (probably has to do with the regulatory laws in their juridiction), something that TerraGreen can't do apparently.That's indeed a good solution to satisfy everyone I'll also remove my support of the flag once it's confirmed that you distributed to everyone as you promised.

We will deactivate account on TerraGreen not on Tokpie. Participants will get TGN coin in thier Tokpie account and they must have to create account on Tokpie before 07 August 2019. There should be some time limit to finalise campaign otherwise we will be distributing for whole year.
We have already listed TGN on Exmarkets and Tokpie Exchanges with BTC and ETH pair to trade. So they can trade TGN. We have partnership with Tokpie regarding bountystake trading and TGN/ETH pair trading.

Ok and people can withdraw their tokens / tokens converted to ETH/BTC from Tokpie Exchange without KYC? I thought Tokpie has some sort of partnership with you? And what will happen after that 2 month period if someone wants to claim his bounty rewards? If you can please all bounty participants and pay them I see no issues. 

I'm wondering why you don't pay directly in ETH/BTC to avoid regulatory issues:

But ok, I appreciate your step into the right direction.

We did not want to hurt any participants. we can not distribute to those without KYC on TerraGreen wallet. we are going to deactivate account of those who have not submitted KYC within 2 months. So after concerning advisors we found this solution and we will follow it and they will get thier coin on 07 August on Tokpie account and after 07 august we will not distribute to anyone. There should be time limit otherwise we will be distributing for whole year.

Nice to hear that. 
I'll wait for confirmations that you paid your bounty participants without KYC (like Aveatrex who created the flag) and remove my negative tag if it's proven.

I appreciate your decision but I'm also wondering if you would have done the same if we hadn't created a scam accusation + flag. 

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After concerning Experts and Advisors ,we decided that we will distribute the coin to all participants who are not ready to submit KYC. So now there will not be any problem to any Bounty participants and some participants have raised accusation on btt. so they should now close it. All participants must have to register on Tokpie Exchange before 06 August 2019 to get coins. We will distribute coin on 07 August.

"ALL who did not pass KYC or don't want to pass it CAN GET THEIR COINS on their Tokpie accounts IN FULL and now can SELL them or keep holding. Know how to get your TGN coins: https://tokpie.io/blog/get-terragreen-tgn-coins-on-your-tokpie-account-balance/

Hello Real Bounty Hunters,

After Concerning advisors and experts , We found solution for this issue and we will announce it shortly.
We did not intend to hurt real bounty hunters.

Most likely KYC is required on tokpie if you want to withdraw your funds. Terragreen seems to be somehow related to tokpie / have a partnership. I hope you can move your funds out of tokpie exchange, but I'm in doubt.  


Yes, because you have to do KYC on tokpie. There is no way to get paid without submitting personal documents.


1. That wasn't why I created the scam accusation. The problem is that Terragreen is also refusing payments in BTC or ETH. They claim it wouldn't be allowed for them to send their tokens without KYC (I don't know if it's true, but ok, let's assume they are right (even if they don't have a proof, see how generous I am  )). There is exactly no problem to reward them with collected funds instead for their work but Terragreen is refusing that! That's a scam of the worst kind.
2. That doesn't matter, they can prolong it to lifetime it's still requiring KYC to receive rewards.
3. I haven't claimed that the project itself is a scam, but people are at high risk at losing money when dealing with them (like it happened to bounty participants).
4. Read 3. Besides from that 4. isn't true because there are many scam projects faking media publications.


It would be easy for them to fucking PAY all of the users for the work the TerraGreen team received. They can easily use BTC or ETH where no KYC is required, but wait, that would cost them real money, not their worthless shitcoins. It's up to them if they want to have the tag removed.

1. No it wasn't. "Information regarding the bounty" could be changed. Not the payout terms.

2. This doesn't make sense. What has the time you have to submit your KYC documents to do with the fact that they changed the terms from "NO KYC" (see their title) no "KYC absolutely mandatory" ? Nothing.

3. Sure, because icoholder is so trustworthy   Look at his trust rating and flag.

4. Then you either didn't see good scams at all.. or didn't identify them as such.




They already got the scam accusation. And they already received their negative trust rating and a flag (15 supporter including 9 DT and 0 oppositions).
They are labeled as what they are - scammer.


Your poor attempt to defend them failed miserably.
What were you trying to achieve ? Did they pay you 100 shittokens more to do that?