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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 11, 2019, 02:25:14 AM

I never understood the politics behind team selection in West Indies. They have filled one of the bowling slots with a part time bowler. His selection is even more surprising because he performed poorly during the recently concluded series against India A. He picked up just 4 wickets in two first-class matches and scored 123 runs in four innings.

This is quite surprising, but I guess they wish to continue experimenting with him for now. He does have a lot of 1st class experience with both the bat and ball and he did prove to be a problem for Pujara and Kohli before.

These 2 guys are clearly the best batsmen in the Indian test lineup which is why they probably chose him for this single reason. Lets see if they made the right call here.

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Quote from: erikalui on August 10, 2019, 08:34:22 AM

Rahkeem Cornwall is chosen as a bowler for the test in WI and he has never played any test match till date. Why are risking new players for the WC test now?

I never understood the politics behind team selection in West Indies. They have filled one of the bowling slots with a part time bowler. His selection is even more surprising because he performed poorly during the recently concluded series against India A. He picked up just 4 wickets in two first-class matches and scored 123 runs in four innings.

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Gayle has not been chosen for the test so last two matches for him in the ODI. He looks bored now and hence spoke about his retirement. He has lost his form too.

Rahkeem Cornwall is chosen as a bowler for the test in WI and he has never played any test match till date. Why are risking new players for the WC test now?

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Quote from: Haunebu on August 08, 2019, 01:49:08 AM

https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/the-followon-podcast-brendon-julian-backs-mitchell-starc-to-play-lords-test/news-story/000d264b8b13280d4bcd2d6940bd79e2

I agree with Julian here. I feel that Pattinson is a great bowler, but Starc is something else and Australia would benefit greatly from a left arm bowler in this regard especially when his form is amazing these days.

Hazlewood should also be given a chance since I feel like he missed plenty of opportunities due to bad luck primarily. What do you guys feel?

When the first test team was named for Australia, I said then that Strac should be playing and wasn't sure why he wasn't playing. He should come back in this next test and Siddle will be the one to miss out as he didn't perform as well in my opinion and Australia need that fast strike bowler to really put the pressure on England while they are down after losing the first test match badly after being in a winning position. Hazlewood is bowling well in the tour match and may also come back into the team but the selectors will have to make a tough decision as to who they leave out. We shall see what they do in the next few days ahead of the second test.

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https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/the-followon-podcast-brendon-julian-backs-mitchell-starc-to-play-lords-test/news-story/000d264b8b13280d4bcd2d6940bd79e2

I agree with Julian here. I feel that Pattinson is a great bowler, but Starc is something else and Australia would benefit greatly from a left arm bowler in this regard especially when his form is amazing these days.

Hazlewood should also be given a chance since I feel like he missed plenty of opportunities due to bad luck primarily. What do you guys feel?

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now Dale Steyn who was one of the best fast bowlers in the modern era.

Dalw Steyn has played 93 test matches, got 439 wickets. I think his decision is right. Now he can put more effort on ODI and T20 which I think is badly needed for him, as you know his recent performance wasn't so good.

Of late, Steyn had a stormy relationship with the South African cricket board (CSA) and was unlucky to miss so many matches due to injury, especially during 2015-18. He had close to 400 test wickets by 2014 and during the next 5 years (2015-19) he played less than 10 matches and took somewhere around 40 wickets.

I still regard him as the greatest fast bowler past the WW2 (Glenn Mitchell was the first one who claimed that). Had he played enough matches during the past 5 years, then he could have easily become the all time highest wicket taker in the history of test cricket.

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Quote from: Best Dreams on August 07, 2019, 07:01:24 AM

All of them are good players as well I know in team of Pakistan there is allot of talent if they are taking retirement it’s their own decision and I am sure it will bring tough time for cricket T20 for their team so I would like to say that it is yet not good time share the news like this let them play and hope for the best T20 series.

Retirement from test cricket at the age of 27 years? The board, the country invested tons of money to make the player whatever he is now and now he is saying he will not play for country. This is very bad. You can not justify it just by saying own decision.

This T20 leagues are basically ruining cricket. Money is there and youngsters are after money. They do not care about loyalty, patriotism, love for cricket. I think Pakistan board or any board should have this rule that once someone retire from test cricket before 32 years, then they can not play any T20. You will see those cheap puppets will not think about retirement at the age of 27. Shame!

Pakistan does not have legends like Shoaib Akhtar anymore who used to suck out blood from his knees every day after the match and before the match. He is still taking the pains for playing for his country. They are the true legends. Paid or anything could not stop them to perform for their country.

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Jofra Archer to replace Anderson it seems. Hope he proves useful for England.

Anderson and Broad are playing just test cricket and yet Anderson cannot keep up with his health before the Ashes which is really a sad thing and he is the only bowler for England who could swing the ball at a decent pace which could make a difference against Australia. Jofra Archer has the potential, lets see if his body will hold up for the longer format of the game.

Quote from: erikalui on August 06, 2019, 05:14:57 AM

Sad news: Dale Steyn retires from Test cricket. He had been among the best ever bowlers I've seen. He's still young and not that old to retire :-(

This week all the fast bowlers are announcing their retirement from test cricket, first Mohammad Amir made the announcement which was followed by Wahab Riaz and now Dale Steyn who was one of the best fast bowlers in the modern era.

All of them are good players as well I know in team of Pakistan there is allot of talent if they are taking retirement it’s their own decision and I am sure it will bring tough time for cricket T20 for their team so I would like to say that it is yet not good time share the news like this let them play and hope for the best T20 series.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on August 06, 2019, 06:18:24 AM

now Dale Steyn who was one of the best fast bowlers in the modern era.

Dalw Steyn has played 93 test matches, got 439 wickets. I think his decision is right. Now he can put more effort on ODI and T20 which I think is badly needed for him, as you know his recent performance wasn't so good.

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Quote from: erikalui on August 06, 2019, 05:14:57 AM

Jofra Archer to replace Anderson it seems. Hope he proves useful for England.

Anderson and Broad are playing just test cricket and yet Anderson cannot keep up with his health before the Ashes which is really a sad thing and he is the only bowler for England who could swing the ball at a decent pace which could make a difference against Australia. Jofra Archer has the potential, lets see if his body will hold up for the longer format of the game.

Quote from: erikalui on August 06, 2019, 05:14:57 AM

Sad news: Dale Steyn retires from Test cricket. He had been among the best ever bowlers I've seen. He's still young and not that old to retire :-(

This week all the fast bowlers are announcing their retirement from test cricket, first Mohammad Amir made the announcement which was followed by Wahab Riaz and now Dale Steyn who was one of the best fast bowlers in the modern era.

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No matter who wins or loses but this test match was truly interesting where both teams were equally strong and where Australia batted badly in the first innings (except for Smith), England lacked a player like Smith and all 4 innings were completed where both teams managed to pick wickets (except again for the third one where England couldn't pick up all). Australia truly dominated the game wherein they bowled out England for 374 making them lead by 90 runs and then making a score of 397 and bowling out England.

Jofra Archer to replace Anderson it seems. Hope he proves useful for England.

Sad news: Dale Steyn retires from Test cricket. He had been among the best ever bowlers I've seen. He's still young and not that old to retire :-(

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Quote from: eaLiTy on August 05, 2019, 09:37:05 PM

I thought Strac had some sort of injury to miss out the first test match, if that is not the case i am not sure what the selectors were thinking, either way the return of Smith in the team has made the difference as he is one of the best players in the longer format of the game and the team was missing his presence for a long time because of his suspension, if he was not in the team then the results would have being different and Lyon bowled really well to finish things off.

I agree. I was baffled with the move to select Pattinson over Starc and many claim that they did this for some sort of long term of goals, but I don't agree with this move. Starc is in prime form currently and sidelining him at this point is stupidity.

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Look at the one day strike rate of Jason Roy, Jos Buttler and Jonny Bairstow they all have a strike rate of above 100 which is incredible but to have the patience to bat longer in the longer version is the real test and they proved they do not have that to save the team. Virender Sehwag is the only player who had a similar strike rate like the players mentioned above in the one day format and still made huge scores in test matches.

Never knew the statistic about Sehwag. Crazy. I wasn't surprised to see Roy, Buttler and Bairstow underperform. This is why I miss watching players like Alistair Cook who could have saved them in this situation.

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Quote from: vella85 on August 05, 2019, 06:14:21 PM

I also wasn't sure about the bowling attack Australia went in with as Strac is Australia's number strike bowler and for him to not be selected

I thought Strac had some sort of injury to miss out the first test match, if that is not the case i am not sure what the selectors were thinking, either way the return of Smith in the team has made the difference as he is one of the best players in the longer format of the game and the team was missing his presence for a long time because of his suspension, if he was not in the team then the results would have being different and Lyon bowled really well to finish things off.

Quote from: DeathAngel on August 05, 2019, 12:54:02 PM

That was some epic choking by England today, Australia looked dead & buried after their first innings. England should be ashamed of their batting performance today.

Look at the one day strike rate of Jason Roy, Jos Buttler and Jonny Bairstow they all have a strike rate of above 100 which is incredible but to have the patience to bat longer in the longer version is the real test and they proved they do not have that to save the team. Virender Sehwag is the only player who had a similar strike rate like the players mentioned above in the one day format and still made huge scores in test matches.

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Quote from: Avirunes on August 05, 2019, 11:24:22 AM

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Poor England. This was meant to happen.

Congratulations to the Australian team.

Great surprise from Australia by turning the match. That's what Ashes is all about.

I doubted the Australian bowling unit at the start but I guess I was wrong. I mean limiting England below 150 score which had such good batting line-up is really something. Plus on the home ground Shocked

. Great play from Lyon,Cummins, Smith and Wade as well. Smith holding the responsibility to lead from the back in both innings really changed the match.

I also wasn't sure about the bowling attack Australia went in with as Strac is Australia's number strike bowler and for him to not be selected I thought Australia would struggle to bowl England out twice but they have been able to achieve this which is a surprise to me. I did mention that I thought this was a second rate Australian team but they have proved me wrong. Smith was the man that changed it all for Australia and gave them the momentum and now it will be interesting to see if the Australian selectors make any changes to the team as Siddle and Warner didn't perform all that well in my opinion. I think it could be a good time to bring Strac in as Strac will really boost the Australian Bowling attack for the second test. Warner most likely gets a second chance to prove himself before a change is made but if he fails again in the second test I think the selectors really need to think about bringing Finch in.

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Nathan Lyon bowled beautifully today, after his pathetic performance during the first innings. More than a victory for Australia, I was baying for an English defeat. What happened during the world cup finals left a bitter aftertaste and now I am happy after watching England losing by such a large margin.

The next test is scheduled at Lord's. That pitch may offer more support for the fast bowlers and I hope the Australians will include Mitchell Starc in the place of either Peter Siddle or James Pattinson.

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That was some epic choking by England today, Australia looked dead & buried after their first innings. England should be ashamed of their batting performance today.

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Poor England. This was meant to happen.

Congratulations to the Australian team.

Great surprise from Australia by turning the match. That's what Ashes is all about.

I doubted the Australian bowling unit at the start but I guess I was wrong. I mean limiting England below 150 score which had such good batting line-up is really something. Plus on the home ground Shocked

. Great play from Lyon,Cummins, Smith and Wade as well. Smith holding the responsibility to lead from the back in both innings really changed the match.

Australia done great job and Smith is really hero for them as he take responsibility in both innings and done great job for his Country Now England have some time for thinking what are they doing and what they want to do as they have no good enough test batting line up which is big misery for them they need world class spinner and some good test match batsmen if they want to comeback in this series.

What a turn around in the match has happened as initially it was England who look so stronger and then as soon as OZ started batting in second inning suddenly match just reversed on their side and possible what OZ could have lost it eventually due to superb play of display they had won it.

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As expected, Lyon destroyed the English batting lineup thanks to the pitch and Cummins aided him. It seemed like England were never in this game in the 2nd innings.

They don't have many test match winning players in their team while Australia has tons in their camp.

Making a bold guess here: Australia to qualify for the finals of the world test championship in 2021. Odds for 2 years futures prediction should be : 10.0 or more.

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Yay! Smith finally won MoM Cheesy

He played brilliantly and next was Lyon who kept taking wickets.

England must be cursing themselves for not taking Smith's wicket in the first innings else the case would have been different all together. They needed someone like smith to get them to a decent score but even Burns, Stokes and Woakes failed the team.

Quote from: UmerIdrees on August 05, 2019, 09:16:08 AM

The non-deserving World cup champions have lost by 251 Runs.
The big margin of this defeat will further raise questions on England performance Wink

Worse is they lost in their own homeland. They still have 4 more chances to prove themselves and I hope we don't see such miserable performances from their batsmen.

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Quote from: Avirunes on August 05, 2019, 11:24:22 AM

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 05, 2019, 09:33:42 AM

Poor England. This was meant to happen.

Congratulations to the Australian team.

Great surprise from Australia by turning the match. That's what Ashes is all about.

I doubted the Australian bowling unit at the start but I guess I was wrong. I mean limiting England below 150 score which had such good batting line-up is really something. Plus on the home ground Shocked

. Great play from Lyon,Cummins, Smith and Wade as well. Smith holding the responsibility to lead from the back in both innings really changed the match.

Australia done great job and Smith is really hero for them as he take responsibility in both innings and done great job for his Country Now England have some time for thinking what are they doing and what they want to do as they have no good enough test batting line up which is big misery for them they need world class spinner and some good test match batsmen if they want to comeback in this series.

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