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Quote from: UmerIdrees on July 28, 2019, 01:02:21 AM

You mean to say that ICC should the schedule tournaments for the teams like Ireland and Zimbabwe to play 5 or more tests per year with the main teams like Australia, India , Pakistan etc. This will be extremely infeasible as they will not be able to generate any revenue from them. Also from the viewers point of view no one will like to watch these one sided test matches.

This is true, but the people betting on heavy favorites in this case will earn a lot through these games. However, I don't really see the entertainment value in such games which is why I agree with you here.

Watching big teams play tests is itself boring, but watching small teams like Ireland play in tests is even more horrible in this regard. I literally just watched the highlights on youtube thanks to the ICC channel.

This is not true as in such matches you get very low odds for the strong team. Also it is risky because in case of upset you will lose all your money and in case of win, the winning percentage is not good at all.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on July 28, 2019, 02:41:33 AM

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Zimbabwe is already suspended by ICC and they cannot participate in any ICC events in the future and the funds has already ended because of the political intervention in cricket and it all happened recently, Ireland does not have a test status, England played a one off test match as a warm up match before the Ashes and other than that i do not think they have a status till now. Afghanistan is doing well in ODI but test match cricket is a different ball game all together.

You are all wrong there :-P

Ireland with Afghanistan got their Test status on 22 June 2017. Read this news: https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/19705648/afghanistan-ireland-get-test-status

The last test against England was their 3rd test if I am not wrong. First one was against Pakistan (lost by 5 wickets), 2nd one was against Afghanistan (lost by 7 wickets) and the latest one was against England. All three were internationally recorded. Not warm up or that kind.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on July 28, 2019, 01:02:21 AM

You mean to say that ICC should the schedule tournaments for the teams like Ireland and Zimbabwe to play 5 or more tests per year with the main teams like Australia, India , Pakistan etc. This will be extremely infeasible as they will not be able to generate any revenue from them. Also from the viewers point of view no one will like to watch these one sided test matches.

This is true, but the people betting on heavy favorites in this case will earn a lot through these games. However, I don't really see the entertainment value in such games which is why I agree with you here.

Watching big teams play tests is itself boring, but watching small teams like Ireland play in tests is even more horrible in this regard. I literally just watched the highlights on youtube thanks to the ICC channel.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 27, 2019, 01:12:03 PM

Anyone agree with me that the ICC should revoke the test status of Ireland? Their performance was really horrible and I have a feeling that test matches should be limited to those teams with international standard. Ireland comes nowhere close. Afghanistan is doing well, so I would suggest the ICC to revoke the test status of Zimbabwe and Ireland, to make it a ten team affair.

Zimbabwe is already suspended by ICC and they cannot participate in any ICC events in the future and the funds has already ended because of the political intervention in cricket and it all happened recently, Ireland does not have a test status, England played a one off test match as a warm up match before the Ashes and other than that i do not think they have a status till now. Afghanistan is doing well in ODI but test match cricket is a different ball game all together.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on July 28, 2019, 01:02:21 AM

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Quote from: Little Mouse on July 27, 2019, 01:48:11 PM

Countries like Ireland, Zimbabwe can't olay much test cricket, not even ODI. High rank team has more matches despite low teams. This is one of the reason, a low team can't gain enough experience. I don't think it will be easy for them to fight against a bigger team who play 5-6 times or more than lower. They have better chance to.win against a lower team.

They can invite top ranked team, although most team will not play. I guess that's not good of ICC, they must allow each teams to play at least 5-10 tests in a year, it would help them improve.

You mean to say that ICC should the schedule tournaments for the teams like Ireland and Zimbabwe to play 5 or more tests per year with the main teams like Australia, India , Pakistan etc. This will be extremely infeasible as they will not be able to generate any revenue from them. Also from the viewers point of view no one will like to watch these one sided test matches.

While you are correct that from those matches, ICC will not be able to generate revenue, in my opinion, ICC must have allow kind of subsidies for the globalization of cricket. In that case, low performed team would have better performance.

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Quote from: RapTarX on July 27, 2019, 08:53:14 PM

Quote from: Little Mouse on July 27, 2019, 01:48:11 PM

Countries like Ireland, Zimbabwe can't olay much test cricket, not even ODI. High rank team has more matches despite low teams. This is one of the reason, a low team can't gain enough experience. I don't think it will be easy for them to fight against a bigger team who play 5-6 times or more than lower. They have better chance to.win against a lower team.

They can invite top ranked team, although most team will not play. I guess that's not good of ICC, they must allow each teams to play at least 5-10 tests in a year, it would help them improve.

You mean to say that ICC should the schedule tournaments for the teams like Ireland and Zimbabwe to play 5 or more tests per year with the main teams like Australia, India , Pakistan etc. This will be extremely infeasible as they will not be able to generate any revenue from them. Also from the viewers point of view no one will like to watch these one sided test matches.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on July 27, 2019, 01:48:11 PM

Countries like Ireland, Zimbabwe can't olay much test cricket, not even ODI. High rank team has more matches despite low teams. This is one of the reason, a low team can't gain enough experience. I don't think it will be easy for them to fight against a bigger team who play 5-6 times or more than lower. They have better chance to.win against a lower team.

They can invite top ranked team, although most team will not play. I guess that's not good of ICC, they must allow each teams to play at least 5-10 tests in a year, it would help them improve.

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Countries like Ireland, Zimbabwe can't olay much test cricket, not even ODI. High rank team has more matches despite low teams. This is one of the reason, a low team can't gain enough experience. I don't think it will be easy for them to fight against a bigger team who play 5-6 times or more than lower. They have better chance to.win against a lower team.

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Ireland still is new in terms of test cricket and if their batting is miserable, their bowling was quite good and hence we were even able to see the end of the test and it did not end in as an NA. Many teams haven't been able to perform in test cricket and were able to win their first match after 20-25 years with things being changed recently. It's not fair to judge them so soon.

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I am not sure about Zimbabwe, haven't seen their test match in the last few years but I see nothing wrong with Ireland. This was their 2nd test if I am not wrong and they performed very well especially their bowling department.

The batting department did not perform in both innings especially in the 2nd innings it was a complete disaster but it was the same for England too. The exception was their 1st innings. Like Ireland's 2nd innings their 1st innings was disaster. Both teams bowling department was more then excellent.

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Anyone agree with me that the ICC should revoke the test status of Ireland? Their performance was really horrible and I have a feeling that test matches should be limited to those teams with international standard. Ireland comes nowhere close. Afghanistan is doing well, so I would suggest the ICC to revoke the test status of Zimbabwe and Ireland, to make it a ten team affair.

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Quote from: bitcoinisbest on July 27, 2019, 11:57:22 AM

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Archer if gets the right length and line could turn very vital for England as he has really quick pace and can easily trouble the Oz batsman with his pace . If he gets the good form and continue it he will be be a real match winner for the team .

Archer was the x-factor for England in world cup and no wonder he will play the same role in the upcoming Ashes. This Ashes will be a very interesting one to watch. Both England and Australia is in good shape (ignoring England's batting against Irish). If England has Archer, Woakes then Australia has Mitchell Starc, Cummins.

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Quote from: erikalui on July 27, 2019, 11:16:30 AM

I don't get why they get no other place to host the Test WC except for England and now I also believe that it's in favor of England. Also, the format is so confusing. First 5 matches of Aus and Eng on 1st August, then 2 matches of other team and here India and Pakistan are not playing against each other so no cricket tension for both. But still how are they going to decide the winner by having irregular number of matches between 2 teams?

What are we talking about here? Sorry I am confuse here.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 27, 2019, 09:34:08 AM

Good comeback by England in the 4th Innings. They are lucky that it was a team like Ireland. I am wondering what will happen against Australia in Ashes. Although I understand this English team was not giving their 100% against Irish. Some of the key players were taking rest in the last match.

Chris Woakes and Jofra Archer form the deadly combo required to dismantle the Australian lineup in my opinion. Other players like Stuart Broad etc lead me to believe that Australia will have a tough time defeating England this time around.

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Archer if gets the right length and line could turn very vital for England as he has really quick pace and can easily trouble the Oz batsman with his pace . If he gets the good form and continue it he will be be a real match winner for the team .

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 27, 2019, 09:34:08 AM

Good comeback by England in the 4th Innings. They are lucky that it was a team like Ireland. I am wondering what will happen against Australia in Ashes. Although I understand this English team was not giving their 100% against Irish. Some of the key players were taking rest in the last match.

Chris Woakes and Jofra Archer form the deadly combo required to dismantle the Australian lineup in my opinion. Other players like Stuart Broad etc lead me to believe that Australia will have a tough time defeating England this time around.

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I don't get why they get no other place to host the Test WC except for England and now I also believe that it's in favor of England. Also, the format is so confusing. First 5 matches of Aus and Eng on 1st August, then 2 matches of other team and here India and Pakistan are not playing against each other so no cricket tension for both. But still how are they going to decide the winner by having irregular number of matches between 2 teams?

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Good comeback by England in the 4th Innings. They are lucky that it was a team like Ireland. I am wondering what will happen against Australia in Ashes. Although I understand this English team was not giving their 100% against Irish. Some of the key players were taking rest in the last match.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 27, 2019, 04:12:15 AM

4 innings in a single day. These matches were like a mix of ODI and T20s. Crazy!

I wasn't totally aware of it. How come they finished 4 innings within a single day? That's not a test cricket, lol. Thank you, anyway.

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Quote from: Pffrt on July 27, 2019, 02:35:54 AM

Curiosity-
Any such record? 3 innings started in one day?

Did a quick google search and was stunned by the results. Here you go:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/15675/scorecard/63889/england-vs-west-indies-2nd-test-west-indies-tour-of-england-and-scotland-2000

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/15259/scorecard/64021/new-zealand-vs-india-2nd-test-india-tour-of-new-zealand-2002-03

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/12712/scorecard/514029/south-africa-vs-australia-1st-test-australia-tour-of-south-africa-2011-12

4 innings in a single day. These matches were like a mix of ODI and T20s. Crazy!

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 27, 2019, 02:06:35 AM

Seriously stunned by the manner in which they lost here. I expected a draw or England winning, but this margin is something else. Ireland still has a long way to go in the Cricketing world.

Are you talking about before starting match? After the 1st innings of the match, it was certain that we will see a winner certainly and it was more confirmed when we saw 3 innings to be started in a single day.
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Quote from: JSRAW on July 26, 2019, 07:31:44 AM

Safe to say Match gone Cheesy

No maiden test victory for them. 6 wicket down, now they just need to make 2 more runs to avoid lowest total in test cricket history Cheesy

~~Previous~~ existing record is 26 runs and its belongs to New Zealand Cheesy

Seriously stunned by the manner in which they lost here. I expected a draw or England winning, but this margin is something else. Ireland still has a long way to go in the Cricketing world.

Quote from: erikalui on July 26, 2019, 10:02:53 AM

What just happened and why Ireland couldn't even bat 20 overs? Woakes and Broad took all the 10 wickets with 6 and 4 so I thought they would get MoM but it went to Leach for 92 runs. Looks like they'll always prefer batsmen over bowlers.

I think Leach deserved this award completely since his batting efforts ensured that England posted a competitive total especially after the margin by which they were trailing behind Ireland.

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