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Quote from: Bureau on February 09, 2024, 11:52:18 PM

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There is speculative news circling in different media outlets that are saying that Kohli won't be available for the last three test matches. Pujara might be called in as his replacement and he would be part of the team for the three tests. BCCI was supposed to announce the final squad yesterday and there was a delay due to Kohli's unavailability in announcing the names. Pujara has been in form and has won a century in the Ranji trophy so I guess if the news is correct then he would replace Kohli.

Virat not coming back in the team is official now. Fortunately/Unfortunately team management has moved on from the likes of Pujara and Rahane. Pujara started scoring runs and minting tons after ton but i guess it's no use and the transition period already started in the Indian team. Although i still believe that Pujara's services are needed in Australia (only).

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India team for remaining 3 tests announced:

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Rohit (C), Bumrah (VC), Jaiswal, Gill, Rahul, Patidar, Sarfaraz, Dhruv Jurel, Bharat, Ashwin, Jadeja, Axar, Sundar, Kuldeep, Siraj, Mukesh, Akash Deep.

Rahul and Jadeja availability depends on fitness. Kohli remains unavailable. Maiden call for Akash deep — saw some of his stuff on YT, seems like decent bowler.

If Jaddu is fit then i am afraid they might drop Kuldeep. I hope they go with only 1 seamer + 3 spin allrounder and Kuldeep.

I don't understand what management is thinking. For the first 2 tests they called up Avesh and now he's out and a new guy comes in. They are not even sure about anything and worse there is no explanation coming from the management, all i see is speculation.

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Akash Deep recently performed well for India A against the England Lions. In total, he picked up 11 wickets from 2 test matches. He opened the bowling for India A, along with Arshdeep Singh, with Yash Dayal for backup. So it was not really surprising to hear about his inclusion to the test squad. That said, England has performed quite decently so far. They had a hard fought win in the first match, and then they lost the second match by a moderate margin. The third match will take place at the Saurashtra Cricket Association Stadium in Rajkot and a win here can put England in a strong position.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 09, 2024, 01:26:09 PM

No official news but it looks like Shreyas Iyer complained about back spasm (an unofficial term for dropping from the team) Grin

and might not feature in 3rd test.

lol, I was thinking same.

India team for remaining 3 tests announced:

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Rohit (C), Bumrah (VC), Jaiswal, Gill, Rahul, Patidar, Sarfaraz, Dhruv Jurel, Bharat, Ashwin, Jadeja, Axar, Sundar, Kuldeep, Siraj, Mukesh, Akash Deep.

Rahul and Jadeja availability depends on fitness. Kohli remains unavailable. Maiden call for Akash deep — saw some of his stuff on YT, seems like decent bowler.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 09, 2024, 01:26:09 PM

No official news but it looks like Shreyas Iyer complained about back spasm (an unofficial term for dropping from the team) Grin

and might not feature in 3rd test.

BCCI are still keeping things tight on squad announcements because they are waiting for updates on KL Rahul and Jaddu's injuries and we know how long it takes letters to be delivered by Indian post so reasonable excuse. Wink

There is speculative news circling in different media outlets that are saying that Kohli won't be available for the last three test matches. Pujara might be called in as his replacement and he would be part of the team for the three tests. BCCI was supposed to announce the final squad yesterday and there was a delay due to Kohli's unavailability in announcing the names. Pujara has been in form and has won a century in the Ranji trophy so I guess if the news is correct then he would replace Kohli.

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No official news but it looks like Shreyas Iyer complained about back spasm (an unofficial term for dropping from the team) Grin

and might not feature in 3rd test.

BCCI are still keeping things tight on squad announcements because they are waiting for updates on KL Rahul and Jaddu's injuries and we know how long it takes letters to be delivered by Indian post so reasonable excuse. Wink

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Quote from: Justin999 on February 08, 2024, 04:47:01 PM

That's true and the real fact behind why South Africa did poor performance. today there was a SA20 match and Faf du Plessis, de Kock, Keshav Maharaj, Reeza Hendricks were playing there. Actually its their board decision whom they should sent for playing. But if Cricket South Africa (CSA) send them as main players then this match might be More interesting. Although some players from south Africa like Keegan Petersen, David Bedingham performance were impressed and Neil Brand was on fire who got total 8 wickets alone. And in new Zealand, Rachin Ravindra and Kane Williamson were found in their full forum. I was expecting for century but Ravindra did double century in 1st innings. Kane Williamson also did double centuries but single century in each innings

Agreed on Keegan Petersen, David Bedingham and Neil Brand. But good performance from these three players were not able to make up for the poor form from the 8 other players. Honestly I was expecting a bit more from Raynard van Tonder and Zubayr Hamza in the batting department and Duanne Olivier/Dane Paterson. Because these players were in good form during the domestic 4-day series. But they failed to adjust to international cricket. Also, it proves that South Africa doesn't have enough depth in their player pool.

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Quote from: JahriMeayer on February 08, 2024, 10:27:00 AM

South Africa failed to perform good in batting and bowling because their cricket board didn't sent experienced players in their squad to play with new Zealand. Most of South African players in squad, are newbie who played 2/3 Test matches only. So what could we expect from them while their experience players are busy to playing in SA20

That's true and the real fact behind why South Africa did poor performance. today there was a SA20 match and Faf du Plessis, de Kock, Keshav Maharaj, Reeza Hendricks were playing there. Actually its their board decision whom they should sent for playing. But if Cricket South Africa (CSA) send them as main players then this match might be More interesting. Although some players from south Africa like Keegan Petersen, David Bedingham performance were impressed and Neil Brand was on fire who got total 8 wickets alone. And in new Zealand, Rachin Ravindra and Kane Williamson were found in their full forum. I was expecting for century but Ravindra did double century in 1st innings. Kane Williamson also did double centuries but single century in each innings

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Quote from: JahriMeayer on February 08, 2024, 10:27:00 AM

New Zealand and South Africa both are good team. They have popular batsman as well as skillful bowlers. But new Zealand New Zealand won by 281 runs. Winning difference was huge. South Africa failed to perform good in batting and bowling because their cricket board didn't sent experienced players in their squad to play with new Zealand. Most of South African players in squad, are newbie who played 2/3 Test matches only. So what could we expect from them while their experience players are busy to playing in SA20 (T20 franchise cricket tournament). Otherwise maybe new Zealand were won also but run difference hadn't a huge like 281 runs. But i must say, contribution of Kane Williamson and youngster Rachin Ravindra, is unforgettable and Rachin Ravindra would be another legend in upcoming days in new Zealand cricket history.

Although South Africa is a good team, they were not able to show good performance against New Zealand. South Africa has performed like the teams that are in the general level. The result of the match between India and Zimbabwe is the same as the result of the match between New Zealand and South Africa. I don't have anything to say about the win or loss but what I can say is that it is a shame that the South African batsmen did not score as many runs as the New Zealand batsmen in the first innings. If the batsmen batted a little more responsibly, the result of this match could have been different or the margin of victory could have been normal but it was not like that.
South Africa are definitely a good team so our expectations are always high for them.

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New Zealand and South Africa both are good team. They have popular batsman as well as skillful bowlers. But new Zealand New Zealand won by 281 runs. Winning difference was huge. South Africa failed to perform good in batting and bowling because their cricket board didn't sent experienced players in their squad to play with new Zealand. Most of South African players in squad, are newbie who played 2/3 Test matches only. So what could we expect from them while their experience players are busy to playing in SA20 (T20 franchise cricket tournament). Otherwise maybe new Zealand were won also but run difference hadn't a huge like 281 runs. But i must say, contribution of Kane Williamson and youngster Rachin Ravindra, is unforgettable and Rachin Ravindra would be another legend in upcoming days in new Zealand cricket history.

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Quote from: Nazmul012 on February 07, 2024, 05:06:46 AM

New Zealand vs South Africa, 1st Test was finished and New Zealand won. New Zealand played extra ordinary in 1st inning where Rachin Ravindra and qKane Williamson showed their unbelievable performance by collecting 511 runs. That's why they hadn't needed to play more in 2nd innings. They just played 2nd inning till Kane Williamson made his century. Which was help them to won by 281 runs which is too many runs. RSA might be in pressure when they saw hugh boundaries by New Zealand and that's why RSA top batsman lost their wicket early in both innings. Nobody did even half century in first match. David Bedingham did 87 runs alone in 2nd wickets but rest of playes were gone for low run. If they could play with patient then maybe winning run different will be less.

1 st test game was overed New Zealand team vs South Africa team and South Africa team won toss and they gave a opportunity to New Zealand for first batting lineup. In q st inning of New Zealand team, New Zealand team scored very high runs 511 runs this runs were enough for win. R.Ravindra achieved double century and scored 245 runs in 366 balls with twenty two 4s and three 6s. K.Willionmson also scored 118 runs in 289 balls with sixteen 4s. In 1 st Inning of south Africa team only chase down 162 runs and left 349 runs for chasing. In 2 nd inning of New Zealand, again K.Williomson scored 109 runs in 132 balls with twelve 4s and one 6s. South Africa team against failed to chase down all target and win this game this game was totally one sided game. New Zealand team won this game by 281 runs and lead by one game.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 08, 2024, 05:49:20 AM

It was expected, right? CSA prioritized SA20 over the test series. This is why I always say that the ICC World Test Championship should be scrapped and boards should be able to decide on how many test matches they play every year. If the boards can decide on the number of ODI and T20I matches they play every year, then I don't know why the ICC is so adamant regarding the test matches. Test cricket is dying and there is no point in kicking a dead horse. It benefits no one. Just because ICC is awash with funds, they don't need to splurge that on test matches.

It's a tricky situation, On the one hand, teams like India, England and Australia play 5 test match series against each other every year, on the other hand, other countries are struggling to sustain even 2 test match series.

WTC will lose its relevance for sure if it continues like that. One could argue that if ICC fixes revenue share fairly this issue might be resolved but at the same time they have to do something about "1 ICC tournament every year". No cookies to figure out why.

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Quote from: Nazmul012 on February 07, 2024, 05:06:46 AM

New Zealand vs South Africa, 1st Test was finished and New Zealand won. New Zealand played extra ordinary in 1st inning where Rachin Ravindra and qKane Williamson showed their unbelievable performance by collecting 511 runs. That's why they hadn't needed to play more in 2nd innings. They just played 2nd inning till Kane Williamson made his century. Which was help them to won by 281 runs which is too many runs. RSA might be in pressure when they saw hugh boundaries by New Zealand and that's why RSA top batsman lost their wicket early in both innings. Nobody did even half century in first match. David Bedingham did 87 runs alone in 2nd wickets but rest of playes were gone for low run. If they could play with patient then maybe winning run different will be less.

NewZealand showed outclassed performance in first test match by Winning 281 huge runs. NewZealand batting was very impressed me Kane Williamson outstanding talented player of New Zealand scoring century in both innings of match in first inning they scored 118 runs and in second inning they played very aggressive 109 (132) and set a challenging total for South Africa. I think This big win only possible by batting performance of Rachin Ravindra they scored double century in first match 240 runs and also bowling very well took two wickets 2/16.

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Quote from: speeder on February 07, 2024, 01:52:49 PM

It is true that the first Test match ended in a one-sided affair. It is unimaginable that South African cricket team players played so badly in first innings and second innings. South African cricket team players in the first innings game where no batsman managed to score 45+ runs. Even though David bedingham scored 87 runs in the batting of the second innings, the condition of the rest of the batsmen was similar. Throughout the game, it was as if the players of the South African cricket team were held hostage by the players of the New Zealand cricket team.

It was expected, right? CSA prioritized SA20 over the test series. This is why I always say that the ICC World Test Championship should be scrapped and boards should be able to decide on how many test matches they play every year. If the boards can decide on the number of ODI and T20I matches they play every year, then I don't know why the ICC is so adamant regarding the test matches. Test cricket is dying and there is no point in kicking a dead horse. It benefits no one. Just because ICC is awash with funds, they don't need to splurge that on test matches.

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Quote from: Nazmul012 on February 07, 2024, 05:06:46 AM

New Zealand vs South Africa, 1st Test was finished and New Zealand won. New Zealand played extra ordinary in 1st inning where Rachin Ravindra and qKane Williamson showed their unbelievable performance by collecting 511 runs. That's why they hadn't needed to play more in 2nd innings. They just played 2nd inning till Kane Williamson made his century. Which was help them to won by 281 runs which is too many runs. RSA might be in pressure when they saw hugh boundaries by New Zealand and that's why RSA top batsman lost their wicket early in both innings. Nobody did even half century in first match. David Bedingham did 87 runs alone in 2nd wickets but rest of playes were gone for low run. If they could play with patient then maybe winning run different will be less.

I was expecting an inning win for the home team New Zealand, but they take good decision and have bat again which help their bowlers to take some rest and then again they routed inexperienced Proteas in this match a huge win with two hundreds from Kane Williamson and double hundred with two wickets for the Rachin Ravindra which is man of the match as well things are not idea for the South Africa in last few years as they are going down day by day with their internal issues and if they are not going to settle them surely we will have them at the level of West Indies, Zimbabwe and Sr Lanka which could be surely worst for the game and South African cricketers and fans now we have few days rest after this second test which is going to play at Hamilton and most chances same result are coming without any problem 2–0 for the New Zealand.

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There is one more Test match between these two teams which will be played on February 13. Maybe the South African team players are looking forward to this match, they might give their best performance in this match.

Lol! I doubt that. This second string South African side is filled with newbies who are getting bullied by the Kiwis on their turf which is what everyone expected. Am expecting a similar result in the second test too.

This is what happens when you don't pay enough attention to your team's outlook in the test format.

First Test was a commanding victory, and it was expected against South Africa's inexperienced players. That's what happens when South Africa sends over a weaker team. It's an easy win against a struggling South African cricket team. South Africa was no match for the New Zealand team, which making it a one-sided game.

It is true that the first Test match ended in a one-sided affair. It is unimaginable that South African cricket team players played so badly in first innings and second innings. South African cricket team players in the first innings game where no batsman managed to score 45+ runs. Even though David bedingham scored 87 runs in the batting of the second innings, the condition of the rest of the batsmen was similar. Throughout the game, it was as if the players of the South African cricket team were held hostage by the players of the New Zealand cricket team.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 07, 2024, 06:53:47 AM

Most of the boards doesn't care about test cricket. It is the ICC which forces them to play in this format. This is why I want to cut down the number of test matches. Only the pig-4 can afford to have separate teams for test and limited overs format. Smaller boards doesn't have this luxury and scheduling test matches can be financially draining for them. 3-4 matches per year sounds good for teams like South Africa. Anything more is like an unnecessary burden. Actually I am glad that South Africa sent an amateur squad. At least now the ICC will notice.

Test series becomes too long when a team visit other country to play two to three test matches. South Africa hasn't sent their strong squad as the main players are playing the SA20 league. South Africa Cricket board giving more priority to their franchise league to make it popular. ICC have to do something to limit these numerous T20 leagues, which will automatically help to increase the importance of international test matches.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 07, 2024, 06:53:47 AM

Most of the boards doesn't care about test cricket. It is the ICC which forces them to play in this format. This is why I want to cut down the number of test matches. Only the pig-4 can afford to have separate teams for test and limited overs format. Smaller boards doesn't have this luxury and scheduling test matches can be financially draining for them. 3-4 matches per year sounds good for teams like South Africa. Anything more is like an unnecessary burden. Actually I am glad that South Africa sent an amateur squad. At least now the ICC will notice.

Agreed. The only way for test cricket to continue surviving is by cutting down such matches drastically and limit them mostly for top teams like England, India etc which is the best strategy overall.

They should do the same to ODI cricket too since T20 and T10 formats keep rising in popularity with time.

We already talk about this too many times which is completely useless because dumb a** ICC not care about this all with now it's time for having good changes at the top and bring new lifeline which is important for this game because recently we have too much decline in quality and things are going from bad to worse if ICC not going to have positive changes which are essential for the survival of the game and test format they needed to have 2 tiers with top six and then lower six every WTC settled for the top eight teams and also work on bilateral series as well for the tier 2 because this will increase of quality and give them good experience.

I am now in favour of two formats with we need 2031 world cup could be last for the ODI and then having T20i and test are enough for the fans and players as well which will also bring good change in game for the players.

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Quote from: Nazmul012 on February 07, 2024, 05:06:46 AM

New Zealand vs South Africa, 1st Test was finished and New Zealand won. New Zealand played extra ordinary in 1st inning where Rachin Ravindra and qKane Williamson showed their unbelievable performance by collecting 511 runs. That's why they hadn't needed to play more in 2nd innings. They just played 2nd inning till Kane Williamson made his century. Which was help them to won by 281 runs which is too many runs. RSA might be in pressure when they saw hugh boundaries by New Zealand and that's why RSA top batsman lost their wicket early in both innings. Nobody did even half century in first match. David Bedingham did 87 runs alone in 2nd wickets but rest of playes were gone for low run. If they could play with patient then maybe winning run different will be less.

New Zealand gave a big performance in the first innings, when they scored 511 runs. It was a display of the tenacity and skill of their batting line up. South Africa did not play that brilliantly in both their innings and failed to chase down as many runs as New Zealand. New Zealand win made it clear that their tenacity, tenacity and determination helped them keep the match under control. You are right tell about R Ravindra , R Ravindra knows the award for this match he Preformed excellent inning he completed double century made 240 run in 336balls.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on February 07, 2024, 12:47:41 PM

Best cricket is just a relic from the past. It has no relevance in the modern world. ICC should have got rid of the test cricket a long time ago. But for some reason, they are trying to keep it alive. I don't know why! Some decisions are very weird. They want to keep this cricket alive, they do not want cricket to be spread all around the world, they want some certain teams to dominate. These things are seriously questionable.

I am pretty sure that that is cricket is still a thing just because the top cricket boards still plays test cricket. If the top creek and boards actually did not want to play this cricket anymore, it wouldn't be there for sure.

Thanks to T20 cricket now we have more teams in cricket then two decade ago. If ICC stick to only ODI and test format then we still have 8 to 10 teams n cricket ecosystem. It's for the first time we have 20 teams gathering for a world cup and its only because of T20 cricket. The world is not interested n test or ODI format, if ICC want to spread cricket to new countries then it must pay more attention to T20 format.
Cricket affairs are mostly controlled by Big-3, ICC is just an announcement body that broadcast decisions made by big 3.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 07, 2024, 06:53:47 AM

Most of the boards doesn't care about test cricket. It is the ICC which forces them to play in this format. This is why I want to cut down the number of test matches. Only the pig-4 can afford to have separate teams for test and limited overs format. Smaller boards doesn't have this luxury and scheduling test matches can be financially draining for them. 3-4 matches per year sounds good for teams like South Africa. Anything more is like an unnecessary burden. Actually I am glad that South Africa sent an amateur squad. At least now the ICC will notice.

Who will have interest in test while we have an era that is dominated by T20 cricket. If there is a test in Pakistan then most of the stands are empty, people are not willing to come to stadium even if entry if free. It will take time before test cricket will be limited or cease to exist because this is one of longest format in any game. I don't know if there is any other game which take so much time to complete.
Boards like BCCI and ECB can afford 5 test match series but for small boards like PCB such series wont be a good idea specially when there is very limited interest of local people in this format.

Best cricket is just a relic from the past. It has no relevance in the modern world. ICC should have got rid of the test cricket a long time ago. But for some reason, they are trying to keep it alive. I don't know why! Some decisions are very weird. They want to keep this cricket alive, they do not want cricket to be spread all around the world, they want some certain teams to dominate. These things are seriously questionable.

I am pretty sure that that is cricket is still a thing just because the top cricket boards still plays test cricket. If the top creek and boards actually did not want to play this cricket anymore, it wouldn't be there for sure.

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