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hero member
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June 03, 2017, 01:51:55 AM
I have a proposal on how to greatly improve the ICO to the benefit of all sides.

As was pointed out before, there is an inconsistency between the funding and receiving side. Buyers are putting money in in order to buy the currency (ehrm I mean donate to foundation), while the receiving side of the money is a loosely connected company (the DLS) receiving an investment and its founders getting a cash reward. So, in fact, total misalignment.

There is a simple remedy I have not seen proposed anywhere yet.

Put a cap on the money, but not on the whole ICO. Cap the money the DLS and founders will get. The DLS should know quite well what investment they need to run the business and that should be the cap.

Any money raised above the cap would become backing assets of Tezos, like in a DAO, under control of the shareholders.

As a result:
1) DLS and founders will not be over-financed by some ridiculous amount of money, they will get some ideal amount of $.
2) The ICO money will go where it should go by the buyers intention - into the currency.
3) Being backed by solid assets, Tezos will start much stronger and will have a real value.
4) Tezos will have its own funds for development. It will not be solely dependant on a technically totally unrelated DLS.
5) Investors will be incomparably more confident to invest when good part of the invested money will stay stored in Tezos.

This structure of the ICO would benefit everybody over the current model. Except for the founders who are looking at their uncapped cash. But I believe they would, in the end, benefit too.

Thoughts?
Tezos team - if you don't like this option, can you please explain why?

Just look at tho ICO of Lykke. They are the most fair to their investors. Lykke not only represents a currency that can be used on their platform, but also make you a shareholder in the business entity.

The team has the right to select the way to ICO. But the investors have the right to put their money in or not.

Tezos has a good concept. But the future of cryptocurrency doesn't belong to ONE coin.  We have also other good candidates to invest. That's it.
legendary
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June 03, 2017, 12:53:45 AM
I have a proposal on how to greatly improve the ICO to the benefit of all sides.

As was pointed out before, there is an inconsistency between the funding and receiving side. Buyers are putting money in in order to buy the currency (ehrm I mean donate to foundation), while the receiving side of the money is a loosely connected company (the DLS) receiving an investment and its founders getting a cash reward. So, in fact, total misalignment.

There is a simple remedy I have not seen proposed anywhere yet.

Put a cap on the money, but not on the whole ICO. Cap the money the DLS and founders will get. The DLS should know quite well what investment they need to run the business and that should be the cap.

Any money raised above the cap would become backing assets of Tezos, like in a DAO, under control of the shareholders.

As a result:
1) DLS and founders will not be over-financed by some ridiculous amount of money, they will get some ideal amount of $.
2) The ICO money will go where it should go by the buyers intention - into the currency.
3) Being backed by solid assets, Tezos will start much stronger and will have a real value.
4) Tezos will have its own funds for development. It will not be solely dependant on a technically totally unrelated DLS.
5) Investors will be incomparably more confident to invest when good part of the invested money will stay stored in Tezos.

This structure of the ICO would benefit everybody over the current model. Except for the founders who are looking at their uncapped cash. But I believe they would, in the end, benefit too.

Thoughts?
Tezos team - if you don't like this option, can you please explain why?

Just look at tho ICO of Lykke. They are the most fair to their investors. Lykke not only represents a currency that can be used on their platform, but also make you a shareholder in the business entity.
copper member
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June 02, 2017, 11:52:00 PM
I have a proposal on how to greatly improve the ICO to the benefit of all sides.

As was pointed out before, there is an inconsistency between the funding and receiving side. Buyers are putting money in in order to buy the currency (ehrm I mean donate to foundation), while the receiving side of the money is a loosely connected company (the DLS) receiving an investment and its founders getting a cash reward. So, in fact, total misalignment.

There is a simple remedy I have not seen proposed anywhere yet.

Put a cap on the money, but not on the whole ICO. Cap the money the DLS and founders will get. The DLS should know quite well what investment they need to run the business and that should be the cap.

Any money raised above the cap would become backing assets of Tezos, like in a DAO, under control of the shareholders.

As a result:
1) DLS and founders will not be over-financed by some ridiculous amount of money, they will get some ideal amount of $.
2) The ICO money will go where it should go by the buyers intention - into the currency.
3) Being backed by solid assets, Tezos will start much stronger and will have a real value.
4) Tezos will have its own funds for development. It will not be solely dependant on a technically totally unrelated DLS.
5) Investors will be incomparably more confident to invest when good part of the invested money will stay stored in Tezos.

This structure of the ICO would benefit everybody over the current model. Except for the founders who are looking at their uncapped cash. But I believe they would, in the end, benefit too.

Thoughts?
Tezos team - if you don't like this option, can you please explain why?

The founders probably want to make more and more money so I assume this idea will be completely ignored, they might pretend that they never read it. 😂
But I hope they see it and decide to implement it, this seems like a great idea.
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Peace not piece.
June 02, 2017, 08:55:24 PM
When its gonna hit exchanges?

It's on exchanges already. Go to Polo, in the search box press ctrl-f4 several times and it should show up the trading pair.

Also same goes for bittrex.

Is it priced now there or after crowdfunding it will roll on?
hero member
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June 02, 2017, 08:51:40 PM
When its gonna hit exchanges?

It's on exchanges already. Go to Polo, in the search box press ctrl-f4 several times and it should show up the trading pair.

Also same goes for bittrex.
full member
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Peace not piece.
June 02, 2017, 08:49:01 PM
When its gonna hit exchanges?
newbie
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June 02, 2017, 10:44:49 AM
I have a proposal on how to greatly improve the ICO to the benefit of all sides.

As was pointed out before, there is an inconsistency between the funding and receiving side. Buyers are putting money in in order to buy the currency (ehrm I mean donate to foundation), while the receiving side of the money is a loosely connected company (the DLS) receiving an investment and its founders getting a cash reward. So, in fact, total misalignment.

There is a simple remedy I have not seen proposed anywhere yet.

Put a cap on the money, but not on the whole ICO. Cap the money the DLS and founders will get. The DLS should know quite well what investment they need to run the business and that should be the cap.

Any money raised above the cap would become backing assets of Tezos, like in a DAO, under control of the shareholders.

As a result:
1) DLS and founders will not be over-financed by some ridiculous amount of money, they will get some ideal amount of $.
2) The ICO money will go where it should go by the buyers intention - into the currency.
3) Being backed by solid assets, Tezos will start much stronger and will have a real value.
4) Tezos will have its own funds for development. It will not be solely dependant on a technically totally unrelated DLS.
5) Investors will be incomparably more confident to invest when good part of the invested money will stay stored in Tezos.

This structure of the ICO would benefit everybody over the current model. Except for the founders who are looking at their uncapped cash. But I believe they would, in the end, benefit too.

Thoughts?
Tezos team - if you don't like this option, can you please explain why?
sr. member
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June 01, 2017, 06:48:42 AM
Will the Tezos team launch a bounty program soon? if so when? Thanks!

I don't think they will launch any bounty program . seems they don't need it.
this project is got enough fans and investor~
hero member
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June 01, 2017, 02:14:04 AM
Will the Tezos team launch a bounty program soon? if so when? Thanks!
The team will not launch the bounty program as far as i know. You can try to join on their slack and ask about the bounty program. Because tezos project already had big number of the players to join on his ICO.
sr. member
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June 01, 2017, 02:07:32 AM
Will the Tezos team launch a bounty program soon? if so when? Thanks!
sr. member
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May 31, 2017, 08:13:38 PM
yeah
sr. member
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May 31, 2017, 12:50:35 PM
what is tezos slack channel invite link?

http://slack.tezos.com/
Can be found on there website.
full member
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May 31, 2017, 12:25:48 PM
what is tezos slack channel invite link?
legendary
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May 31, 2017, 09:12:11 AM
Hello Tezos team,
When will the slack be open for chatting. Currently it is closed. Also, is there a way to send emails ( or pm) to staff/mangers- I have proposition that you might find very intresting.
Eagerly waiting for ICO, and think this is a great development in blockchain tech. Thank you.

You can still chat in Slack, you just need to chat in the Misc channel. You may have to join this channel if it doesn't show up for you. The General channel is only for announcements now.
newbie
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May 31, 2017, 03:18:27 AM
Hello Tezos team,
When will the slack be open for chatting. Currently it is closed. Also, is there a way to send emails ( or pm) to staff/mangers- I have proposition that you might find very intresting.
Eagerly waiting for ICO, and think this is a great development in blockchain tech. Thank you.
legendary
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May 30, 2017, 09:55:39 PM
Is the ICO still scheduled to be happening in June now? Has there been any developments on the date or is it still up in the air?
sr. member
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May 30, 2017, 03:44:43 PM
Digged into this project and I'm very pleased! Just a great project! I'm already a huge fan.
I will be investing in this project.

Keep it up dev!
newbie
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May 30, 2017, 07:39:55 AM
simple question, how many texos i get if i invest 1 bitcoin, and how many tezos in circulation ? how many tezos needed for stake ?

Check out the deck. It has this info on page 11.
full member
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May 30, 2017, 07:35:24 AM
simple question, how many texos i get if i invest 1 bitcoin, and how many tezos in circulation ? how many tezos needed for stake ?
Simple question. Are you able to do a quick internet search and read?
full member
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May 30, 2017, 07:25:55 AM
What I dont like about Tezos is the uncapped sale. Why dont they put a cap in the sale. Also about the price of 5000 XTZ to 1 Bitcoin, they should take into consideration about the BTC price since it is on a constant move...
Why not shut the fuck up and just accept that it will be uncapped and that you are not able to change that?!
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