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I vote that the Phinnaeus Gage account should be locked, just like the Hal Finney account when it was hacked, to prevent it from being abused. What do you guys think?
Is anyone still not convinced that Bruno is dead?

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It could be locked with the custom title it had before being reactivated, and in case someone can actually prove that the account was sold to him/her or is a family member, the account would be unloccked with the custom title removed.
I am convinced with other users that Bruno is dead and the account should be locked.

I will lock this topic since it's not serving the actual reason anymore of the thread was created for.

I called the Boersma Funeral Home, and the person who answered confirmed that he knew Bruno, and he had passed. I just thought people would like to know so we can end the speculation about Bruno himself.

Rest in peace Bruno!


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Stop talking about a dead person plz.
@OP edit the text with the imposter incident + quote of TECSHARE (phone call) AND lock this shitty discussion please.
If there is anything new and worth talking about, a new (dozen actually) of topics will be created for sure!
Thanks for understanding!!!
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Is anyone still not convinced that Bruno is dead?

You're the one with the second account, you tell us.




While you're at it, why does Phinnaeus Gage think he owns the Gleb Gamow UID a year after you bought it from - ?? was it darkstar_ ?? - hard to tell given Bruno sold his accounts a couple of times judging by the anecdotal evidence.

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I do agree with everyone IF anyone went around phoning funeral homes (and we only have their word on that) then that's crossing a boundary.
legendary
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I had a family member die a few years ago and it bothered the crap out of me when I saw somebody logging in to their Facebook account, showing up as "active" in the chat menu. So what I did was ask Facebook for their account to be memorialized. That means that the account is still there yet no one can log into it, kind of like Satoshi, and there's a little message that accompanies it saying "Remembering So Andso"...

The qualifications for the memorialization of a loved one's account is quite simple. It reads as follows:

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Please provide a scan or photo of your loved one's obituary, death certificate, memorial card or other documentation confirming that they've passed away.

Nobody here knows better than Facebook when it comes to deciding what to do with a dead person's social media account. I'm sorry -- you just don't. They know an obituary is pretty strong evidence that someone is deceased. That's what I submitted to them, and voila, memorialized account. No more anybody pretending to be my dead relative.

Should it turn out that this person was not dead or faking their own death for $7 grand... guess what? The account can be reactivated! Problem solved.

Now I'm not going to call everybody who thought he was still alive after I posted his obituary 2 days after his death a moron, but Jesus Christ people, I'm utterly disappointed with how many of you are lacking some pretty basic common sense. People don't fake their own deaths for $7k. It doesn't happen. Bruno never scammed anybody, so everyone who decided to whip up some far-fetched conspiracy about how this was some kind of master scam needs to do some introspecting and just be quiet on this issue for a while.

Facebook's approach should be standard for what happens whenever a notable forum member is decidedly deceased. And it won't happen often because almost nobody is as public with their identity as Bruno was.

After somebody presents theymos with an obituary from a website that specializes in such, or a newspaper, or whatever, the account should be locked.

Adding "In Memoriam" is a nice touch if appropriate. Again, it won't happen often, so there's no real reason to argue about the "what ifs."

Now I'm thoroughly sick of discussing the issue - I have been for a month and a half - so this will be my last comment on it. I just beg of people to please have a little more forethought before churning out a post on what is a sensitive issue that we all must face one day.
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Agreed. I felt that calling the funeral home was taking it a step too far.

I don't think that was too far - I think it was a commendable effort to put an end to the speculation.

I draw the line at this now:
If the relatives of Bruno or anyone close to him could provide the death certificate and wanted to lock his account then why not lock the account.

LOL. I vaguely remember the innocent times when KYC on this forum used to be a joke.
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I didn't think it was going too far.
Maybe you're right, they are only professionally involved so it's not that bad.

I draw the line at this now:
If the relatives of Bruno or anyone close to him could provide the death certificate and wanted to lock his account then why not lock the account.
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Is anyone still not convinced that Bruno is dead?
Well, I'm still wondering personally--I don't know what to think at this point.  

TECSHARE said he called the funeral home and verified that Bruno had died.  Regardless of your opinions about TECSHARE, I believe he did as he said and unless there was a lie embedded on the funeral home's part, I have no reason to doubt Bruno is really dead.

What a strange situation.  I thought asking for burial donations was kind of weird when Bruno did that, but I wasn't thinking that there was a scam or any kind of shenanigans in his mind.  Most people have family to take care of that sort of thing, and if they don't then they probably wouldn't care what became of their remains anyway.  Then again, I've always had a strange view of what should be done with human remains after death.  Cremation seems like the most efficient way to go, or donation to a medical school.  Anyway.

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I felt that calling the funeral home was taking it a step too far.
Ah, sorry I missed your post before I made mine, because I linked to the same post.  I didn't think it was going too far.  Who really got hurt by TECSHARE calling the funeral home to verify that it was Bruno?  There was a legitimate reason to do it, and it isn't as though it was done as a prank.
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Is anyone still not convinced that Bruno is dead?

I'm not a particularly mannerly person but this never-ending digging into dead person's matters is making even me queasy. Not that he probably cares much now but can't we just pretend to have some decorum, lock all these threads, and go back to bickering with living people who can at least bicker back at us.
Agreed. I felt that calling the funeral home was taking it a step too far. Even though I like this forum a lot, don't forget it's just an internet forum.

Phinnaeus Gage even called it his exit scam. He either has a great sense of humor, or he didn't lie and really planned this. For what it's worth, I'm going with the great sense of humor, let him rest.
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Is anyone still not convinced that Bruno is dead?

I'm not a particularly mannerly person but this never-ending digging into dead person's matters is making even me queasy. Not that he probably cares much now but can't we just pretend to have some decorum, lock all these threads, and go back to bickering with living people who can at least bicker back at us.
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I'd think it's more likely that the person asking for donations wasn't actually Bruno, but the same scammer.

Although it's more probable than a Bruno Zombie, I still think that's quite unlikely.  The address to which Bruno requested donations be sent (1FkHCFv8PN1kerJct3RsQQpMcRoTnx2vWe) was an old address.  I checked it before sending my donation to make sure the account wasn't hacked.  I recall getting lots of google results with Phinnaeus Gage and was able to confirm that the address had been posted by Bruno as early as 2012.  Doing a search for the address now seems return all the same results, but the address is missing from the messages posted.  I think it must have been in Phinnaeus Gage's signature or personal text.
 
They probably just kept the money there for as long as possible or until the attention died down on him a bit. Seems a mighty coincidence that the funds move then his account here reactivates. Looks to me like it was just his last ditch attempt to solicit more donations.

The timing is suspicious, but there may be a reasonable explanation.  Bruno's personal effects were probably given to his relatives only recently, either after his will was read to all his relatives or the trust was disbursed.  It's normal for the state to delay probate to ensure there aren't any outstanding debts.   If that's the case then it would make perfect sense that the funds were moved at or near the same time someone got a hold of the device he used to access the forum.  

I suspect it was one of his relatives that made the recent posts after getting access to his laptop or whatever device Bruno use.  This relative saw that Bruno was respected here and was able to convince the community to contribute to his last request.  Then the greed set in, and the relative decided to take advantage of the situation.    
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I believe the person who moved the coin is someone different than the person who posted the donation address because otherwise they would have no reason to move the coin.

They probably just kept the money there for as long as possible or until the attention died down on him a bit. Seems a mighty coincidence that the funds move then his account here reactivates. Looks to me like it was just his last ditch attempt to solicit more donations.
I don’t see any reason why they would need to move the coin in the first place.

The rest of your post appears to be speculation and I am unaware of any factual basis to support any of it.

I believe the person who moved the coin is someone different than the person who posted the donation address because otherwise they would have no reason to move the coin. If you google Bruno's name, you will find his forum handles, which might lead someone to access bitcointalk on his phone.

Unless of course Bruno (on his death bed) never logged out of anything/apps emails, the phone itself... as he had lost movement in his right arm.
Yes that is what I am saying I believe happened. Or he could have logged out and had his password saved in his phone to auto populate.
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I believe after TECSHARE intervention there is no need for more discussion:
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I called the Boersma Funeral Home, and the person who answered confirmed that he knew Bruno, and he had passed. I just thought people would like to know so we can end the speculation about Bruno himself.
There is enough evidence that the account is controlled by another person claiming to be Bruno ("dead") and until proven otherwise, i call for a permaban or a lock for all Bruno's accounts (except maybe Gleb which is controlled by suchmoon normally).
Can we lock the topic?
Can we stop the useless speculation? If someone has a new evidence then he has to post it [dot]
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Perhaps he was diagnosed with an aggressive form of a brain cancer, started a fundraiser to raise money so his body could be buried near his original home, and died before he had the chance to finalize his plans.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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I'd think it's more likely that the person asking for donations wasn't actually Bruno, but the same scammer.

If you look at the stilted text of Bruno's Plead it does look as though someone else is typing (not just a "google did it for me")

Perhaps Bruno's phone was taken a while ago, and, being in hospital, never needed it.  A scammer set the "Plead" up, waited a while then came back and said he was cured.




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I don't think selling his account is consistent with the strong evidence that he died a couple of weeks after he posted asking for donations.

I'd think it's more likely that the person asking for donations wasn't actually Bruno, but the same scammer.

I see threads in the dev and tech sub all the time that are consistent with people being in possession of wallets that don't belong to them, trying to find the passphrase to steal the coin. I also see threads in the services marketplace sub of people offing huge bounties for cracking wallet passwords. My presumption has always been that these are people that purchased old hard drives/computers with encrypted wallet files and they are trying to steal the coin in the wallet files. If people do this with old computers, I don't see any reason why people wouldn't do this with found phones.

I haven't followed these sorts of threads closely but they're probably scammers or people who have bought a wallet from another scammer thinking there's riches to be found inside.

I believe the person who moved the coin is someone different than the person who posted the donation address because otherwise they would have no reason to move the coin.

They probably just kept the money there for as long as possible or until the attention died down on him a bit. Seems a mighty coincidence that the funds move then his account here reactivates. Looks to me like it was just his last ditch attempt to solicit more donations.
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I believe the person who moved the coin is someone different than the person who posted the donation address because otherwise they would have no reason to move the coin. If you google Bruno's name, you will find his forum handles, which might lead someone to access bitcointalk on his phone.

Unless of course Bruno (on his death bed) never logged out of anything/apps emails, the phone itself... as he had lost movement in his right arm.  By not logging out the next person to handle the phone could have innocuously browsed the phone's contents (perhaps looking for porn??  Ya never know) and stumbled upon the various browsers, wallet apps/email apps even text files labelled "stuff for my relatives after I die" and passed the phone on to a friend with some tec savy who dug down and found a 2011/12 charity that Bruno tried to get going (ironically, via an account that was banned in 2018 about six weeks before Bruno then sold the Gleb Gamow UID to Suchmoon) and then concocted what we saw transpire over the last 36 hours.
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I'm not going to do it regularly, but I'll make an exception here and give VIP status & a custom title to Phinnaeus Gage and Gleb Gamow. However, I know that these accounts changed hands in the past, and maybe arrangements have been for this to happen again in the future; therefore, if either account ever posts in the future, I will remove this stuff from the account.

It appears that the account has resurfaced and began posting. Haven't seen evidence yet that it truly is the original owner - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin100-is-back-and-stronger-covid-19-5251074

Edit: His alleged proof - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54500907
He posted a picture dated from 2019 as "proof".

I think someone probably has his phone. Or maybe, he had sent some pictures in his outbox.

The most likely scenario is he sold or gave his account to someone. Or it was hacked, but the timing seems a bit suspicious. The donation address thread he posted was likely done by the same person given the funds moved a couple of days ago. Seems far too much of a coincidence to me. He used the same sort of old photos before for the donation thread. Bruno probably sent a few pictures privately to people to prove he was in the hospital, maybe to solicit donations himself. One of those people could have then used the pictures for a scam. Maybe he tried to sell the account as he did before, or someone made him an offer for it. Someone finding his phone and then posting on a forum seems incredibly unlikely.
I don't think selling his account is consistent with the strong evidence that he died a couple of weeks after he posted asking for donations.

I see threads in the dev and tech sub all the time that are consistent with people being in possession of wallets that don't belong to them, trying to find the passphrase to steal the coin. I also see threads in the services marketplace sub of people offing huge bounties for cracking wallet passwords. My presumption has always been that these are people that purchased old hard drives/computers with encrypted wallet files and they are trying to steal the coin in the wallet files. If people do this with old computers, I don't see any reason why people wouldn't do this with found phones.

I believe the person who moved the coin is someone different than the person who posted the donation address because otherwise they would have no reason to move the coin. If you google Bruno's name, you will find his forum handles, which might lead someone to access bitcointalk on his phone.
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All it requires is a submission of the obituary to Facebook. That's all take it takes to prove to normal people that someone has died.
If the relatives of Bruno or anyone close to him could provide the death certificate and wanted to lock his account then why not lock the account. Who ever is accessing the account does know how the forum works as they edited out his threads and locked it and as far as i know his death is confirmed by some websites and i know there are users here in the forum who met him personally and i have not read anyone confirming that Bruno was really posting from his account and he died on the specific date as mentioned in the websites.
legendary
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I vote that the Phinnaeus Gage account should be locked, just like the Hal Finney account when it was hacked, to prevent it from being abused. What do you guys think?
What if a next in kin uses the account to earn money? We may frown upon account sales, but it's not against forum rules and the account could be part of an inheritance.

Definitely an impossibility at this point. Besides, would you really want that?

What we should have proposed from the beginning is that the account be locked with the VIP title. Facebook has this "In Memoriam" feature where you can have a deceased loved one's account locked with those words on the page... or else it says "Remembering Soandso...." All it requires is a submission of the obituary to Facebook. That's all take it takes to prove to normal people that someone has died.
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It could be locked with the custom title it had before being reactivated, and in case someone can actually prove that the account was sold to him/her or is a family member, the account would be unloccked with the custom title removed.
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