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legendary
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March 17, 2013, 03:43:35 PM
#22
Litecoin will prosper. There's not much room for another one, unless it's something innovative like PPCoin. Cheap knockoffs like TRC or NVC are ultimately destined for the scrapheap.

PPC is broken and centralized through checkpointing. Enough said.

Nope not broken and no more centralized than Bitcoin. Next.

Uhh just because you say it isnt centralized doesnt make it NOT CENTRALIZED.

Sunny King is creating checkpoints for the POS algorithm every 5 blocks (or so). THAT IS CENTRALIZED DIPSHIT.

Try harder to make PPC out to be something it is not.....PPC is BROKEN.

Also the exploit in the Proof of Stake algorithm has not been proven to be fixed. Of course you knew this given you've been on this forum for such a long time right?

Fail noob is fail noob. Your account was created on February 25th, 2013. So no, your words mean nothing. Do more research and learn more about cryptos then come back and discuss with the adults.   Grin Grin Grin

No-one cares what you think Smoothie all you do is TROLL all coins except Litecoin. Troll troll troll. I've only been here a few weeks and already I know that much.

You don't think anyone listens to a word you say do you? They just see Troll Smoothie and read it for a laugh, if they haven't already ignored you.

And by your OWN logic, Bitcoin would be broken. Even now after years things still go wrong with it (read: the recent fork fiasco)

PPCoin has a bright future:

1. The number of people searching google for the phrase 'ppcoin' has tripled in size in march compared to previous months:



Litecoin did a similar thing recently. Terracoin which is also growing in size is also showing a trend increase.

2. There is a LOT of trading activity spiking up in ppcoin lately

Volume chart from vircurex:



BTC price graph:



PPcoin is also being mentioned more on the forums in recent days.

3. Lead developer Sunny is still extremely active and passionate about his vision with 'ppcoins'. Sunny is continually improving the code and is very receptive to new ideas and if something goes wrong you can trust him to fix it. The development is still active unlike a lot of the other alt coins which are barren wastelands. This is not a coin that is just a cheap copy of bitcoin with some tweaks, this a very dinstinctive and innovative coinn. PPcoin stands out amongst the other coins for being, in my opinion, the most innovative with it's proof of stake and low energy consumption. Which leads me onto 3:

4. PPcoin will likely scale better than bitcoin. Bitcoin is already running into problems with the amount of transactions and this will only get exponentially worse.  PPcoin will present an alternative. And not only that it should be more of a 'hedge' against Bitcoin since if a flaw is found in Bitcoin it is less likely to be found in PPcoin than other alt currencies.

5. Mining profitability is 150% on dustcoin right now and seems to hover around this mark consistently. (litecoin 163%, terra 135%)

6. It's market cap is 7295 btc, compared to 7168 for terracoin. This is very impressive considering how CHEAP these coins are (about $0.02 ie about 2 cents), much cheaper than terracoin.

7. PPcoin vulnerabilities have now been patched and further to this a tournament is being held to prove the strength of the system and to root out any minor bugs (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ppcoin-stake-generation-tournament-152809) e.g. something similar to double spend for bitcoin.

8. The only downside I see is it's only on vircurex and bitparking. Btc-e don't have it (yet) but the new exchange being developed by neotrix will. The way I see it, you can buy a few k of these coins for peanuts and imo they are the only alt coin left which is cheap and has true potential. Dev coin is very cheap for example but has poor mining rewards due to 90% of the rewards going to the developers , NVC has too much of a scam image now it will never become 'big' + market cap is tiny and fishy, Terracoin is growing but imo is too similar to bitcoin and in a bubble, Namecoin was a brilliant idea but unfortunately was executed wrong and the domain names were too cheap... Actually the other downside I see of ppcoin is it uses the SHA algorithm so will probably get ASICs? This affects all coins apart from Litecoin and NVC though.

legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
March 17, 2013, 03:39:28 PM
#21
makes sense... there is no point in doing the same thing twice (LTC)

This is LOL.

Litecoin actually improves on Bitcoin, get your facts straight! It is not the "same thing twice" as you put it.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Tongue

--Faster transactions  We changed a parameter or two in the software!
--Short term ASIC resistant (they wont come for a long time for LTC)  Mining is less effecient
--fpgas will be here soon, further strengthening the network  but it is improving
--Already have 2,873,000 Kh of hashing speed behind it, making it pretty stable already
--more stores and services opening up for LTC every day
--arguably/definitely the biggest community of ALT coin users to make things for it and improve upon it  We're number one at being number two!

FIFY

--Already have 2,873,000 Kh of hashing speed behind it, making it pretty stable already thus only 1 out of 2 people can perform a double spent attack
--more stores and services opening up for LTC every day including scam offerings

FIFY
completed

LOL. The Bitcoin Gang here to troll. I think everyone should read both sides of the story and not listen to Bitcoin trolls that are scared of a competing currency that is better (read: faster) than their own. It might deflate their large investments in Bitcoin in the coming years if Litecoin becomes more popular.

They are the wealthy elite and you know... wealthy elite type folks don't like to become part of the formerly wealthy elite.



Calling someone like Jutarul a troll is a shortcut to my ignore list.

No one gives a shit.

<---------------------------------------- Please press the pussy ignore button  Grin Grin Grin
donator
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
March 17, 2013, 03:38:02 PM
#20
makes sense... there is no point in doing the same thing twice (LTC)

This is LOL.

Litecoin actually improves on Bitcoin, get your facts straight! It is not the "same thing twice" as you put it.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Tongue

--Faster transactions  We changed a parameter or two in the software!
--Short term ASIC resistant (they wont come for a long time for LTC)  Mining is less effecient
--fpgas will be here soon, further strengthening the network  but it is improving
--Already have 2,873,000 Kh of hashing speed behind it, making it pretty stable already
--more stores and services opening up for LTC every day
--arguably/definitely the biggest community of ALT coin users to make things for it and improve upon it  We're number one at being number two!

FIFY

--Already have 2,873,000 Kh of hashing speed behind it, making it pretty stable already thus only 1 out of 2 people can perform a double spent attack
--more stores and services opening up for LTC every day including scam offerings

FIFY
completed

LOL. The Bitcoin Gang here to troll. I think everyone should read both sides of the story and not listen to Bitcoin trolls that are scared of a competing currency that is better (read: faster) than their own. It might deflate their large investments in Bitcoin in the coming years if Litecoin becomes more popular.

They are the wealthy elite and you know... wealthy elite type folks don't like to become part of the formerly wealthy elite.



Calling someone like Jutarul a troll is a shortcut to my ignore list.
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1473
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
March 17, 2013, 03:33:29 PM
#19
Litecoin is the same things as bitcoin, but with downgraded security in its mining algorithm making it super vulnerable to botnet control, almost no developers, old software, and fewer than 20 merchants (many of whom have to be emailed to place an order with litecoin).

This is not the end of alt crypto though.  Litecoin will soon be replaced by something not so vulnerable to botnets and supercomputers and more friendly to GPUs.  Hopefully it will be a coin that tries something innovative with the code involving more than ten minutes of work.

Put your money (not just $500 or $1000 or $10,000) where your mouth is and pay someone to attack litecoin. Your talking makes you look more stupid with each post.

Bring it.  Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1484
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March 17, 2013, 03:31:49 PM
#18
With a market cap in the millions and thousands of dedicated miners, I doubt that.  Additionally, the scrypt implementation and then the GPU miner for scrypt took way, way longer than 10 minutes to code (you're forgetting Tenebrix/Fairbrix, advancements in the mining algorithm that allowed it to be GPU mined, etc etc).

The point of Litecoin was being a dedicated memory hard chain based on scrypt -- something that was achieved in spades.  Even the other coins with active development like PPCoin haven't updated to 0.7 backend yet, because 0.6.3 is a solid, stable release.
newbie
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March 17, 2013, 03:28:02 PM
#17
Litecoin is the same things as bitcoin, but with downgraded security in its mining algorithm making it super vulnerable to botnet control, almost no developers, old software, and fewer than 20 merchants (many of whom have to be emailed to place an order with litecoin).

This is not the end of alt crypto though.  Litecoin will soon be replaced by something not so vulnerable to botnets and supercomputers and more friendly to GPUs.  Hopefully it will be a coin that tries something innovative with the code involving more than ten minutes of work.
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1473
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
March 17, 2013, 03:25:24 PM
#16
makes sense... there is no point in doing the same thing twice (LTC)

This is LOL.

Litecoin actually improves on Bitcoin, get your facts straight! It is not the "same thing twice" as you put it.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Tongue

--Faster transactions
--Short term ASIC resistant (they wont come for a long time for LTC)
--fpgas will be here soon, further strengthening the network
--Already have 2,873,000 Kh of hashing speed behind it, making it pretty stable already
--more stores and services opening up for LTC every day
--arguably/definitely the biggest community of ALT coin users to make things for it and improve upon it

Sorry but i don't understand a few things.

First... Why is "ASIC Resistant" a good thing? As far as i know asics brings protection to the network, so when more hashing power the better for all of us.

Second... Farster transactions will be coming at BTC too in a future once the block size will be increased, so it's not a concern.

I really can't see one single thing that LTC improves over Bitcoin, transactions may be faster (only the first) but it should change in a future and second is less secure, so what gives?

No ofence, i'm just trying to understand the value of it. As for now i only see all alternate cryptocurrencies a refugee from miners who can't compete on BTC and  want to speculate on a new chain, it's like a ponzi, they are all almost a carbon/copy of Bitcoin.



Right now people bitcoin GPU miners can switch to mining litecoin. If they upgrade to ASICs for bitcoin, they will no longer be able to switch to Litecoin when it is more profitable to mine. Bitcoin miners will be locked into only mining bitcoins with ASICs.

Litecoin miners (GPU miners) will mine Litecoin most likely because ASICs will make bitcoin mining with GPUs UNPROFITABLE.
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1473
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
March 17, 2013, 03:21:31 PM
#15
Litecoin will prosper. There's not much room for another one, unless it's something innovative like PPCoin. Cheap knockoffs like TRC or NVC are ultimately destined for the scrapheap.

PPC is broken and centralized through checkpointing. Enough said.

Nope not broken and no more centralized than Bitcoin. Next.

Uhh just because you say it isnt centralized doesnt make it NOT CENTRALIZED.

Sunny King is creating checkpoints for the POS algorithm every 5 blocks (or so). THAT IS CENTRALIZED DIPSHIT.

Try harder to make PPC out to be something it is not.....PPC is BROKEN.

Also the exploit in the Proof of Stake algorithm has not been proven to be fixed. Of course you knew this given you've been on this forum for such a long time right?

Fail noob is fail noob. Your account was created on February 25th, 2013. So no, your words mean nothing. Do more research and learn more about cryptos then come back and discuss with the adults.   Grin Grin Grin
legendary
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In Cryptocoins I Trust
March 17, 2013, 03:15:18 PM
#14
hero member
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Merit: 500
March 17, 2013, 02:49:56 PM
#13
Bitcoin faggits are just made cause they can't find the right config to mine sCrypt with their GPU's or FPGA's :trlf:


sCrypt dun like you!
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1001
March 17, 2013, 02:46:21 PM
#12
makes sense... there is no point in doing the same thing twice (LTC)

This is LOL.

Litecoin actually improves on Bitcoin, get your facts straight! It is not the "same thing twice" as you put it.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Tongue

--Faster transactions  We changed a parameter or two in the software!
--Short term ASIC resistant (they wont come for a long time for LTC)  Mining is less effecient
--fpgas will be here soon, further strengthening the network  but it is improving
--Already have 2,873,000 Kh of hashing speed behind it, making it pretty stable already
--more stores and services opening up for LTC every day
--arguably/definitely the biggest community of ALT coin users to make things for it and improve upon it  We're number one at being number two!

FIFY
makes sense... there is no point in doing the same thing twice (LTC)

This is LOL.

Litecoin actually improves on Bitcoin, get your facts straight! It is not the "same thing twice" as you put it.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Tongue

--Faster transactions  We changed a parameter or two in the software!
--Short term ASIC resistant (they wont come for a long time for LTC)  Mining is less effecient
--fpgas will be here soon, further strengthening the network  but it is improving
--Already have 2,873,000 Kh of hashing speed behind it, making it pretty stable already
--more stores and services opening up for LTC every day
--arguably/definitely the biggest community of ALT coin users to make things for it and improve upon it  We're number one at being number two!

FIFY

LOL. The Bitcoin Gang here to troll. I think everyone should read both sides of the story and not listen to Bitcoin trolls that are scared of a competing currency that is better (read: faster) than their own. It might deflate their large investments in Bitcoin in the coming years if Litecoin becomes more popular.

They are the wealthy elite and you know... wealthy elite type folks don't like to become part of the formerly wealthy elite.

Everyone has their own favourite coin/s and trolls any other coin as much as possible to put their own coin in a more favourable light. One has to read the cold hard facts and make their own decisions without being swayed by user bias.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1026
In Cryptocoins I Trust
March 17, 2013, 02:43:20 PM
#11
makes sense... there is no point in doing the same thing twice (LTC)

This is LOL.

Litecoin actually improves on Bitcoin, get your facts straight! It is not the "same thing twice" as you put it.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Tongue

--Faster transactions  We changed a parameter or two in the software!
--Short term ASIC resistant (they wont come for a long time for LTC)  Mining is less effecient
--fpgas will be here soon, further strengthening the network  but it is improving
--Already have 2,873,000 Kh of hashing speed behind it, making it pretty stable already
--more stores and services opening up for LTC every day
--arguably/definitely the biggest community of ALT coin users to make things for it and improve upon it  We're number one at being number two!

FIFY

--Already have 2,873,000 Kh of hashing speed behind it, making it pretty stable already thus only 1 out of 2 people can perform a double spent attack
--more stores and services opening up for LTC every day including scam offerings

FIFY
completed

LOL. The Bitcoin Gang here to troll. I think everyone should read both sides of the story and not listen to Bitcoin trolls that are scared of a competing currency that is better (read: faster) than their own. It might deflate their large investments in Bitcoin in the coming years if Litecoin becomes more popular.

They are the wealthy elite and you know... wealthy elite type folks don't like to become part of the formerly wealthy elite.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1001
March 17, 2013, 02:39:52 PM
#10
Litecoin will prosper. There's not much room for another one, unless it's something innovative like PPCoin. Cheap knockoffs like TRC or NVC are ultimately destined for the scrapheap.

PPC is broken and centralized through checkpointing. Enough said.

Nope not broken and no more centralized than Bitcoin. Next.
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1473
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
March 17, 2013, 02:35:44 PM
#9
Litecoin will prosper. There's not much room for another one, unless it's something innovative like PPCoin. Cheap knockoffs like TRC or NVC are ultimately destined for the scrapheap.

PPC is broken and centralized through checkpointing. Enough said.
donator
Activity: 994
Merit: 1000
March 17, 2013, 02:31:48 PM
#8
--Already have 2,873,000 Kh of hashing speed behind it, making it pretty stable already thus only 1 out of 2 people can perform a double spent attack
--more stores and services opening up for LTC every day including scam offerings

FIFY
completed
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye
March 17, 2013, 02:27:50 PM
#7
makes sense... there is no point in doing the same thing twice (LTC)

This is LOL.

Litecoin actually improves on Bitcoin, get your facts straight! It is not the "same thing twice" as you put it.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Tongue

--Faster transactions  We changed a parameter or two in the software!
--Short term ASIC resistant (they wont come for a long time for LTC)  Mining is less effecient
--fpgas will be here soon, further strengthening the network  but it is improving
--Already have 2,873,000 Kh of hashing speed behind it, making it pretty stable already
--more stores and services opening up for LTC every day
--arguably/definitely the biggest community of ALT coin users to make things for it and improve upon it  We're number one at being number two!

FIFY
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1001
March 17, 2013, 02:26:10 PM
#6
Litecoin will prosper. There's not much room for another one, unless it's something innovative like PPCoin. Cheap knockoffs like TRC or NVC are ultimately destined for the scrapheap.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
Annuit cœptis humanae libertas
March 17, 2013, 02:24:19 PM
#5
Litecoin is doing just fine. There is good reason to have a non-monopoly of cryptocurrency. Bitcoin is still king, though.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1026
In Cryptocoins I Trust
March 17, 2013, 02:14:25 PM
#4
makes sense... there is no point in doing the same thing twice (LTC)

This is LOL.

Litecoin actually improves on Bitcoin, get your facts straight! It is not the "same thing twice" as you put it.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Tongue

--Faster transactions
--Short term ASIC resistant (they wont come for a long time for LTC)
--fpgas will be here soon, further strengthening the network
--Already have 2,873,000 Kh of hashing speed behind it, making it pretty stable already
--more stores and services opening up for LTC every day
--arguably/definitely the biggest community of ALT coin users to make things for it and improve upon it
hero member
Activity: 752
Merit: 500
bitcoin hodler
March 17, 2013, 02:10:57 PM
#3
makes sense... there is no point in doing the same thing twice (LTC)
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