I wanted to understand more, and I actually came across a different name and publication history, linking the chart with George Tritch (who extended the original Benner's forecast up to 2059, it seems). There are a lot of articles from unpopular media outlets, and the best (the most reputable) I could find was this comprehensive article on the Telegraph.
While the chart has the right to exist, I think it's hard to assess its accuracy because it depends on which things we're looking for. It's easy to find evidence that will support the chart, but that would also be stretching it in come cases. As for Bitcoin, for example, the chart isn't accurate. So which assets should count, and is there a way to really test it? Something vague enough for people to indulge in confirmation bias often gets very popular, but it doesn't mean it's trustworthy.
What people often get wrong in such cases is that they start out looking for confirmations, while the scientific method should push them to do the opposite and ask a question of whether it's possible to prove it wrong. If it's vague enough to be impossible to prove it wrong, it's not scientifically accurate.
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January 23, 2024, 01:01:05 PM
January 23, 2024, 11:49:06 AM
It is quite fascinating and makes me wonder how they came up with this as it all aligned well with major events that affected the entire world’s economy
However i would not blindly follow this pattern there are always things happening in the world every year whether it is a good thing or a bad thing which could affect the way the market moves
However i would not blindly follow this pattern there are always things happening in the world every year whether it is a good thing or a bad thing which could affect the way the market moves
January 23, 2024, 10:54:28 AM
It's important to also keep present economic conditions in mind and not just believe blinfly on these predictions even though it predicted a lot of things accurately. They don't have the means to know the economic conditions of the present times, and that has since rapidly change when this theory was published. Nevertheless, props to the creator for going balls deep on logic and maths alone and get almost everything right.
January 23, 2024, 10:42:46 AM
This is S&P 500 index chart, looking at this chart, the picture that posted by @OP is mostly incorrect.
In the end it happens like with charts that try to predict the price of Bitcoin going forward, they have a certain logic, a certain regularity, but if you look at the fine print they don't work. To think that macroeconomics, which is quite probabilistic and volatile, is going to be determined by a simple arithmetic progression is quite naive. And even more naive is to think that it has been right in the past without doing simple checks like this one.
January 23, 2024, 08:42:39 AM
This is the first time i have seen these images and i found them interesting. I think i want to do more research about it because from 2019 till now i have seen this is correct about crypto market at least. If this is true then the best investment opportunity was in 2023 which is true. But i wants to know how author came with this colclution and draw this infographics. Its should be based on fact and theories not only about some dream or any baseless fact.
January 23, 2024, 08:14:15 AM
Interesting chart though, but I don't believe the is accurate by looking at past events which we have come across and what's the authenticity of this? as someone could have easily created it recently after noting down the history, while I also understand that many of us are thinking this as a secret hidden from us and there are elites following this pattern but it cannot be true as no one can predict the future and COVID crisis is the best example of it. Future depends on how we create it in the present not by something written in the past or claimed to be written in the past.
January 23, 2024, 07:12:54 AM
Do you really believe that the guy, who created this "infograph" 150 years ago can successfully predict what will happen to the global economy in 2035 or 2053? Even "math and logic" can't predict everything. All this sounds like nonsense to me. This guy tried to prove by using math and logic, that the stock markets are cyclic. 150 years ago, the Federal Reserve didn't exist. Nowadays, the Federal Reserve has a major influence over all financial markets. Did this guy predict the creation of the Federal Reserve?
What mathematical equations did he use, in order to prove his theory? I'm not a math guy, so I can't tell whether his theory is legit or a total BS. It seems more like BS to me.
What mathematical equations did he use, in order to prove his theory? I'm not a math guy, so I can't tell whether his theory is legit or a total BS. It seems more like BS to me.
Makes sense. The guy from 150 years ago might have had some math and logic theories about stock market cycles but the world has changed a ton since then. I doubt he foresaw things like the creation of the Federal Reserve. It's a bit like trying to use an old map for a new city but not foolproof
January 23, 2024, 06:20:02 AM
Do you really believe that the guy, who created this "infograph" 150 years ago can successfully predict what will happen to the global economy in 2035 or 2053? Even "math and logic" can't predict everything. All this sounds like nonsense to me. This guy tried to prove by using math and logic, that the stock markets are cyclic. 150 years ago, the Federal Reserve didn't exist. Nowadays, the Federal Reserve has a major influence over all financial markets. Did this guy predict the creation of the Federal Reserve?
What mathematical equations did he use, in order to prove his theory? I'm not a math guy, so I can't tell whether his theory is legit or a total BS. It seems more like BS to me.
What mathematical equations did he use, in order to prove his theory? I'm not a math guy, so I can't tell whether his theory is legit or a total BS. It seems more like BS to me.
January 23, 2024, 05:36:37 AM
In what way does it look legit?
In the Bitcoin market, for example, 2016 was certainly not a time for selling. Selling should be done the following year. And I think panic didn't happen in 2019. The big panic happened in 2022 when the price fell from almost $50,000 all the way to $16,000.
I don't know, but for me, this is nothing really.
Maybe this only works on commodities but not in crypto because it clearly contradicts on the Bitcoins side and performaces thoughout the years. What I think that is legit for Bitcoin is the four years interval that started way back in 2013 up until now that is making ATH every four years. In the Bitcoin market, for example, 2016 was certainly not a time for selling. Selling should be done the following year. And I think panic didn't happen in 2019. The big panic happened in 2022 when the price fell from almost $50,000 all the way to $16,000.
I don't know, but for me, this is nothing really.
January 21, 2024, 04:19:41 PM
This is S&P 500 index chart, looking at this chart, the picture that posted by @OP is mostly incorrect.
Recession happen in those years, it's random, not always every 7, 9 or 11 years.
At least we know that not everything we read is accurate or tells the exact truth. Recession happen in those years, it's random, not always every 7, 9 or 11 years.
In what way does it look legit?
Someone only need to spend around $25 in order to make his self pro claimed prediction looks legit https://www.amazon.com/old-paper-sheets/s?k=old+paper+sheets I had to still share nonetheless because I felt somehow left behind, incase this pattern is still used or known by someone else in this forum.
Recession sure did hit hard in those years, but one fact is this:
Any loss seen on paper or chart during a recession won't have any severe impact on anyone investor or HoDLer, unless one makes a withdrawal from their accounts for whatever purpose intended. It is also during this time that if one gets scared and thus stop investing, that they never see the gains on the investments when the market gears back up into a bull season persay.
January 21, 2024, 02:47:41 PM
What do you think?
Some other make money in the years of economic boom. Various inventions made certain generations become rich. But also some make money when the world is burning (and many others lose shitloads of money in the same periods).
I don't think that the old paper can be right, since it cannot see all the niche cases and also it can be that the same year is great for some and awful for others.
January 21, 2024, 10:58:38 AM
The dynamics of the market before 150 years is completely different from the present and I don't see exact accuracy even in the long time gap between the charts which makes it highly inaccurate but due to some coincidence, it may look accurate for you. If you want to make the investment then analyze the status at the present and you don't need to look the historic prices for stock beyond 10 years which itself is the maximum.
Any market is highly unpredictable, so never approach it with historical patterns that are too old to consider even credible and if you think you still want to trust the logic then its your decision and face the results.
Any market is highly unpredictable, so never approach it with historical patterns that are too old to consider even credible and if you think you still want to trust the logic then its your decision and face the results.
January 21, 2024, 10:43:57 AM
Well, the paper looks old and look legit but since covid also happened in 2019 in China it might have a big coincidence.
So according to the "paper" 2023 is a year when we should go all in and take profit in 2026 and now is 2024 meaning it needs another 2 years from now. But we are in crypto industry the best time to sell crypto is at 2025 just opinion when all token and bitcoin at least reach their previous All time high.
But Im just curious tho what is 3 6 9 in triangle after the 2023
The 3 6 9 in triangle after 2023 is the 'prosperity phase.' It is the zone known and indicated by a period of rising prices and economic expansion and a good time to buy assets.So according to the "paper" 2023 is a year when we should go all in and take profit in 2026 and now is 2024 meaning it needs another 2 years from now. But we are in crypto industry the best time to sell crypto is at 2025 just opinion when all token and bitcoin at least reach their previous All time high.
But Im just curious tho what is 3 6 9 in triangle after the 2023
BTC is one good asset still making a wave for investors right now mostly as the ETF approval was good and the halving still warming up. We see the rising prices and the best strategy that favors the poor with an interest in BTC is to buy the dip and HoDL. Or better put, accumulate.
Also as regards any other noteworthy investment, it's better to buy now and nurture it, because according to this old picture I came across, this is a period of economic expansion as we await the bull run and other profits sometime before the end of 2026.
January 21, 2024, 09:49:40 AM
This is S&P 500 index chart, looking at this chart, the picture that posted by @OP is mostly incorrect.
Recession happen in those years, it's random, not always every 7, 9 or 11 years.
Recession happen in those years, it's random, not always every 7, 9 or 11 years.
In what way does it look legit?
Someone only need to spend around $25 in order to make his self pro claimed prediction looks legit https://www.amazon.com/old-paper-sheets/s?k=old+paper+sheets 
January 20, 2024, 10:43:09 PM
If all this predictions written on this old book corresponds to all events that you explained that have happened, it won’t be regarded as a coincidence but has something to do with facts that are unknown to the public. Not all will believe in the writings in this book and would disregard any point here and wil still assume it to be some kind of coincidence and not just happening base on the facts presented in that book.
Book are embodied with a lot of information that if when traced back can solve a lot of prevailing issues we have in the world today. Some have explained on how the future will be, and despite seeing how things are unraveling, we turn blind eyes to them and continue in the path that we enjoy the more.
If I were to be asked about what I feel from this old book that has being traced back to 150 years ago, I will simply say it is a book full of knowledge, which when examined judiciously can help solve and tackle some unforeseen problems ahead. The world would be a better place if most issues are known before hand, so that solutions will be found for it before approaching such problems.
Book are embodied with a lot of information that if when traced back can solve a lot of prevailing issues we have in the world today. Some have explained on how the future will be, and despite seeing how things are unraveling, we turn blind eyes to them and continue in the path that we enjoy the more.
If I were to be asked about what I feel from this old book that has being traced back to 150 years ago, I will simply say it is a book full of knowledge, which when examined judiciously can help solve and tackle some unforeseen problems ahead. The world would be a better place if most issues are known before hand, so that solutions will be found for it before approaching such problems.
January 20, 2024, 10:22:46 PM
Yeah, it’s a fascinating theory but historical accuracy doesn't guarantee future success. While historical patterns can provide insights, they are not foolproof predictors of future events. The world of finance is constantly evolving, with new players and technologies altering the landscape. Market dynamics are influenced by a multitude of factors, many of which are unpredictable. 2024 could be a year of recovery and prosperity, we need to consider other economic indicators and market analyses as well.
January 20, 2024, 09:40:42 PM
I didn't read too much about it. First, because I don't believe in this kind of thing. You try to make money as often as possible. Forget about the timing, patterns, superstitions, predictions, Feng Shui, and so on. Opportunities are available all the time. You just have to look for them or even create them. Some lost wealth during World War II, Great Depression, Global Financial Crisis, and so forth, but some also grew a lot richer during those depressing times.
Second, how can this be a math and logic theory? How can this be an analysis? To me, it looks like nothing but unfounded predictions.
In what way does it look legit?
In the Bitcoin market, for example, 2016 was certainly not a time for selling. Selling should be done the following year. And I think panic didn't happen in 2019. The big panic happened in 2022 when the price fell from almost $50,000 all the way to $16,000.
I don't know, but for me, this is nothing really.
Second, how can this be a math and logic theory? How can this be an analysis? To me, it looks like nothing but unfounded predictions.
Well, the paper looks old and look legit...
In what way does it look legit?
In the Bitcoin market, for example, 2016 was certainly not a time for selling. Selling should be done the following year. And I think panic didn't happen in 2019. The big panic happened in 2022 when the price fell from almost $50,000 all the way to $16,000.
I don't know, but for me, this is nothing really.
January 20, 2024, 09:13:14 PM
Well, the paper looks old and look legit but since covid also happened in 2019 in China it might have a big coincidence.
So according to the "paper" 2023 is a year when we should go all in and take profit in 2026 and now is 2024 meaning it needs another 2 years from now. But we are in crypto industry the best time to sell crypto is at 2025 just opinion when all token and bitcoin at least reach their previous All time high.
But Im just curious tho what is 3 6 9 in triangle after the 2023
So according to the "paper" 2023 is a year when we should go all in and take profit in 2026 and now is 2024 meaning it needs another 2 years from now. But we are in crypto industry the best time to sell crypto is at 2025 just opinion when all token and bitcoin at least reach their previous All time high.
But Im just curious tho what is 3 6 9 in triangle after the 2023
January 20, 2024, 06:07:56 PM
I came across an article on LinkedIn some time back and I was fascinated by the chart and image shown to butress the point of the best period when you make money.
There used to be an old saying that goes, 'if you want to hide something from a man, hide it in a book,' as such, I wonder how many wealthy people out there who have had similar knowledge and have invested according to the knowledge and really made good profit, so much so that they stick to such knowledge without sharing.
If I were to raise an argument, I would say that this fascinating 150year old maths and logic theory was put into consideration before the development of the decentralized network and crypto currency and stock market.
Infact, it is because developers understood this pattern and the knowledge was put into use during trading or HoDling or investing in Bitcoin and stocks, that many made the most money from their investment and ultimately became millionaires till date.
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This analysis is insanely accurate! Published in 1875 by Samuel Benner, it identifies years of panic as well as periods when to make money
The 150-year-old Benner Cyde has predicted almost all major crises since the mid-1920s. It accurately foresaw the Great Depression, WW2. the Dot Com bubble, and the recent COVID crash.
The Benner Cycle quite accurately predicted how the markets will perform in 2023 as well. We haven't seen a dramatic crash but
-Major stock indices like the 5&P 500 did experience a dedine in 2023 ending the year around 5% lower than its 2022 peak
-The global economy faced tough challenges with factors like inflation, rising interest rates, and the ongoing wars around the world contributing to economic uncertainty.
Looking ahead, the Benner Cycle suggests that 2024 might be a year of gradual recovery, entering the "Prosperity Phase". This zone indicates a period of rising prices and economic expansion and a good time to buy assets.
Fascinating 150-year-old math and logic.
The 150-year-old Benner Cyde has predicted almost all major crises since the mid-1920s. It accurately foresaw the Great Depression, WW2. the Dot Com bubble, and the recent COVID crash.
The Benner Cycle quite accurately predicted how the markets will perform in 2023 as well. We haven't seen a dramatic crash but
-Major stock indices like the 5&P 500 did experience a dedine in 2023 ending the year around 5% lower than its 2022 peak
-The global economy faced tough challenges with factors like inflation, rising interest rates, and the ongoing wars around the world contributing to economic uncertainty.
Looking ahead, the Benner Cycle suggests that 2024 might be a year of gradual recovery, entering the "Prosperity Phase". This zone indicates a period of rising prices and economic expansion and a good time to buy assets.
Fascinating 150-year-old math and logic.
What do you think?
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/linasbeliunas_this-analysis-is-insanely-accurate-published-activity-7147964883911839745-phDp?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android
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