The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? - page 2.

TheQuin

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Quote from: Thirdspace on June 22, 2018, 08:27:51 AM

that seems right, he needs to spend some time again just like starting over a newbie account Cheesy

36 two-week periods, about 72 weeks (~15 months) to get back 500 activity
unless the system has inner counter keeping track maximum potential activity even with deleted posts
if he's a bit smarter, he would have left 1 post in every two-week period to lock in potential activity Tongue

They definitely lose the activity permanently. It is odd they deleted the posts after getting tagged as the account is worthless now anyway. Maybe they saved all the posts and want to reuse them from another alt account they have without getting caught for plagiarism.

Thirdspace

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Quote from: stompix on June 22, 2018, 07:57:05 AM

I might be wrong on this, but since they've deleted all the posts, they must wait now 500 days for this account to get back to Hero levels, was it worth? And having an account with 10 posts and 500 merits will immediately trigger attention from other members, just like in my case, If I hadn't found this topic first I would have started a new one....

that seems right, he needs to spend some time again just like starting over a newbie account Cheesy

36 two-week periods, about 72 weeks (~15 months) to get back 500 activity
unless the system has inner counter keeping track maximum potential activity even with deleted posts
if he's a bit smarter, he would have left 1 post in every two-week period to lock in potential activity Tongue

mdayonliner

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Quote from: stompix on June 22, 2018, 07:57:05 AM

Quote from: Jet Cash on June 22, 2018, 07:46:47 AM

Another case for removing merit associated with deleted posts.

I can see at least one staff member opposing this..

It's called learning from the superior. The full history will be accessed here: http://loycevsbasement.privatedns.org/Merit/history/382413.html
Thanks to LoyceV

By the way I have a deducted post about the staff:
[staff] xandry: may I ask an explanation? <=== https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/staff-xandry-may-i-ask-an-explanation-response-received-4330297

update:

Quote from: actmyname on June 22, 2018, 08:12:23 AM

Quote from: stompix on June 22, 2018, 07:57:05 AM

I can see at least one staff member opposing this..

Doesn't that seem a little questionable where a moderator is giving merit to so many posts that are being deleted?

Forget the part where they're staff: where's the sensibility in determining quality posts when you rapid-fire merit to users who consistently have deleted posts? (i.e. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1762404)

Thank you actmyname. It does look questionable (not little but very much)

actmyname

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Quote from: stompix on June 22, 2018, 07:57:05 AM

I can see at least one staff member opposing this..

Doesn't that seem a little questionable where a moderator is giving merit to so many posts that are being deleted?

Forget the part where they're staff: where's the sensibility in determining quality posts when you rapid-fire merit to users who consistently have deleted posts? (i.e. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1762404)

stompix

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Quote from: Steamtyme on June 22, 2018, 07:44:04 AM

Quote from: stompix on June 22, 2018, 07:39:49 AM

Quote from: TheQuin on June 22, 2018, 07:26:51 AM

The account only ever received 50 Merit in one transaction so it must have been a Hero account on 24th Jan. Then for whatever reason, they have deleted the post history.

I wonder why would they do this...

My guess is that one or more was a bought account, and they didn't want to be caught based on past post practices.

Or they are looking to make it an attractive newbie account sale. Hero potential with activity and Merit.

I might be wrong on this, but since they've deleted all the posts, they must wait now 500 days for this account to get back to Hero levels, was it worth? And having an account with 10 posts and 500 merits will immediately trigger attention from other members, just like in my case, If I hadn't found this topic first I would have started a new one....

I hope that more DT members will tag them so no noob buys them.
In the end, you can say it ended up with a lot of counterfeit merits taken away from the ~~streets~~ forum.

Quote from: Jet Cash on June 22, 2018, 07:46:47 AM

Another case for removing merit associated with deleted posts.

I can see at least one staff member opposing this..

mdayonliner

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Quote from: stompix on June 22, 2018, 07:39:49 AM

I see now that even the main culprit Ajpa94 has turned into a newbie...
Are they trying to hide the post, keep the merit and then start re-ranking ....sorry I just don't get it.

Close your eyes and try to eliminate others factors...
An unbreakable record in BitcoinTalk history. Extra ordinary result! 500 merit from 6 activities and a newbie account Grin

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Taki

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Quote from: Piggy on June 21, 2018, 08:53:30 AM

Well, it doesn't get any more obvious than this. And has been also reported time ago already, kind of suck for all people that are trying to get merits honestly Sad

Yeah. I think those people who try really hard to get merit must be feel punked themselves. I hope the forum will take all necessary staff for those merit abusers.

Jet Cash

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Another case for removing merit associated with deleted posts.

Steamtyme

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Quote from: stompix on June 22, 2018, 07:39:49 AM

Quote from: TheQuin on June 22, 2018, 07:26:51 AM

The account only ever received 50 Merit in one transaction so it must have been a Hero account on 24th Jan. Then for whatever reason, they have deleted the post history.

I wonder why would they do this...

My guess is that one or more was a bought account, and they didn't want to be caught based on past post practices.

Or they are looking to make it an attractive newbie account sale. Hero potential with activity and Merit.

stompix

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Quote from: TheQuin on June 22, 2018, 07:26:51 AM

The account only ever received 50 Merit in one transaction so it must have been a Hero account on 24th Jan. Then for whatever reason, they have deleted the post history.

I wonder why would they do this...

I see now that even the main culprit Ajpa94 has turned into a newbie...
Are they trying to hide the post, keep the merit and then start re-ranking ....sorry I just don't get it.

It would be better to tag all of them if this is their plan, after all this kind of activity clearly shows they can't be trusted.

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They have deleted all their post history after the RED tag (yesterday they had posts), this probably prove that they are alts.

DdmrDdmr

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Quote from: TheQuin on June 22, 2018, 07:26:51 AM

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The account only ever received 50 Merit in one transaction so it must have been a Hero account on 24th Jan. Then for whatever reason, they have deleted the post history.

Yep. The data on the Dasboard from last Friday shows:

Current Rank: Hero Member
Date Created: 20/04/2016
Activity: 641
Posts: 641 (same as activity..)
Merit: 550
Initial Merit 500
Received Merit: 50
Tx Received: 1
Merit Sent: 113
Tx Sent: 10

Perhaps the account has been sold/bought and the activity deleted.

TheQuin

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Quote from: stompix on June 22, 2018, 07:22:09 AM

I run into Kda2018 on the segwit2x topic, saw his empty message and while I was waiting to see if there is an image loading I looked at his merit .......WTF? Huh

Quote

Activity: 10
Merit: 550

How the hell was this even possible???
And is he trying to delete his post history?

http://archive.is/EstL5

(those are edited messages).

The account only ever received 50 Merit in one transaction so it must have been a Hero account on 24th Jan. Then for whatever reason, they have deleted the post history.

stompix

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Activity: 2912

Merit: 6403

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I run into Kda2018 on the segwit2x topic, saw his empty message and while I was waiting to see if there is an image loading I looked at his merit .......WTF? Huh

Quote

Activity: 10
Merit: 550

How the hell was this even possible???
And is he trying to delete his post history?

http://archive.is/EstL5

(those are edited messages).

audaciousbeing

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There is no other convincing argument to put forward. I am always careful in reaching a conclusion based on circumstantial evidence, but this is obviously more than that. Its an outright abuse of the merit system and a slap on the face of those who decides to gain merit in the most decent, legit and hardworking way without wanting to circumvent and frustrate the very essence of the merit system. I am sure a lot of people must have received PMs geared towards exchange of merits just for ranking up without quality posts to stand for that but choose to ignore for the sake of the community.

If it were up to me, people like this user should not be allowed in the community. If it were to be a newbie, I would advocate a form leniency not for Hero Member who would have been here before the implementation and would have known what led to it then willfully decides to circumvent the process, the highest form should be meted against such.

DdmrDdmr

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on June 22, 2018, 06:49:08 AM

<...>
Well I will do an even deeper investigation on those. A lot of them seems shady accounts...

I'll update the Dashboard today if all goes well, so perhaps a ~~few~~ lot more ranking-ups will occur; hopefully the legit way ...

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Quote from: TheQuin on June 22, 2018, 02:06:19 AM

Nice catch but there's something wrong with the title. It wasn't the first Sr. to rank up to Hero. According to DdmrDdmr's dashboard there are already 8.

https://public.tableau.com/profile/ddmrddmr#!/vizhome/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/GlobalSummary

Well I will do an even deeper investigation on those. A lot of them seems shady accounts...

TheQuin

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Nice catch but there's something wrong with the title. It wasn't the first Sr. to rank up to Hero. According to DdmrDdmr's dashboard there are already 8.

https://public.tableau.com/profile/ddmrddmr#!/vizhome/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/GlobalSummary

darklus123

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Quote from: actmyname on June 21, 2018, 10:24:22 PM

Quote from: darklus123 on June 21, 2018, 09:25:44 PM

What only concerns me right now is that if AJpa94 would say to you and proves that he/she will stop abusing merit system. Is it possible that you are going to remove the tagged? just curious tho

That's a bit silly, isn't it?

Think about it for a second:

How does one, exactly, prove that they won't merit abuse anymore?
Why do they deserve a second chance just based on their word?
Does the same thing happen when someone says they won't shoplift again?

The tag stays. For a significant amount of time.

It doesn't matter anymore if how would that person prove to you that he/she would stop abusing the merit system. Basically what I want to hear is actually that you are not going to remove it anymore(which i think your answer is similar to that in my understanding). Because even if that person proves it. The damage is still done since that certain account's ranking is not going to decreased anymore.

actmyname

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Quote from: darklus123 on June 21, 2018, 09:25:44 PM

What only concerns me right now is that if AJpa94 would say to you and proves that he/she will stop abusing merit system. Is it possible that you are going to remove the tagged? just curious tho

That's a bit silly, isn't it?

Think about it for a second:

How does one, exactly, prove that they won't merit abuse anymore?
Why do they deserve a second chance just based on their word?
Does the same thing happen when someone says they won't shoplift again?

The tag stays. For a significant amount of time.

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