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Topic: [staff] xandry: may I ask an explanation? Response received! (Read 2667 times)

legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1585
shaman
There are 10 merits for my reports in my profile.

My suggestion
- These are the 10 merits for reporting --- transfer to satoshi

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/satoshi-3

in this thread

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/welcome-to-the-new-bitcoin-forum-5



For example

In my profile 64 merits.
10 merits for reports.

After transfer

I still have 54 merit
satoshi: +10 merits.

I understand that this is technically difficult.
But this solves all the questions connected with merit for the reports.
staff
Activity: 3444
Merit: 4037
Crypto Swap Exchange
I don't check threads in this section if i don't have enough free time, and the last personal message which I answered today, was of March thirteenth.

If we have total mess in Russian section, then in English-speaking forum probably at all nobody breaks anything rules?
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
We are Bitcoin!
Unlocked the topic after making this post:

inbizin = bitkoinguru$$$

I wonder what action will be taken against the act inbizin done? Will they get a ban or they will be living free?  
I also wonder why the Russian section is rising so many questions. Do all these have any connection with the mod xandry. Seems like these people are very much loved by the mod.
I also wonder how can xandry not notice a topic that was specifically created for him, I mentioned him 100s (+- a decent number) times with his name everywhere but he noticed it after 29 days later or so!.  
I have read this thread only today, thanks to user ToTheMoon_XOM9IK
A silly excuse, isn't it?
I also wonder why not many member actually did not want to talk against xandry. When you do not get support then obviously you take defensive steps that's what I did, sorry I was tired of making more enemies. I locked that topic.

Honestly speaking - from outside, the Russian section seems a mess. A total mess. It could be a better place than it is now. Seems like mismanagement is killing the section.

By the way chimk, congrats on getting back your account. You have hell lot of bravery in you. Good job.
I'm overwhelmed by the possibility of new attacks on me. Please consider the level of aggression on me.
I am sure you will handle it smoothly.

PS: I think I will unlock the topic again just in-case anyone wants to make any comment after reading the whole topic and the conversations. Here you go: [staff] xandry: may I ask an explanation? Response received!
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
We are Bitcoin!
I will lock the topic in the next 24 hours. You are welcome to share your thoughts.
Time for the topic to be locked. Response from xandry

copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
We are Bitcoin!
~

... now I have stopped give merits for explanation of rules, who sends reports, because as a result I had concerns that this could not be used correctly and such way to receive merit would become too easy, and also it isn't clear for many other users....
IMO since xandry acknowledged and realized that it was not a good idea then we should give him the honor (it's only how I see) to have a 2nd chance. In life we always make mistakes. No one is perfect.  

I will lock the topic in the next 24 hours. You are welcome to share your thoughts.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1924
฿ear ride on the rainbow slide
This story is not over.
EPILOGUE.
1. In the Russian section there is a professional copy-paste .
inbizin
.
2. Inbizin teaches to write copy-paste , and buy merit.

-snip-

Morality. inbizin wants to buy merit, the moderator sends him a measure, inbizin Sells? gives the merit for copy-paste  . The moderator is WARNING. In the Russian section, everyone is silent, there is nobody to tell the truth. Conclusion: - merit fell into bad hands.
The Silence of the Lambs.
The end.


I'm not sure if that is the case. I read that post and thought it was sarcasm rather than "teaching".

So difficult to see as I am a non native limited speaker.

Every forum has trouble with people who are wolves in sheep clothing. They are good at pretending they are helping while they are just looking to gain merit so they can start signature spamming. While others appear to be annoying but actually make the forum a better place.

I spoke to Xal0lex and I am of the opinion that they work very hard and try their best to do the right thing for the forum. As a moderator on another site I am aware that moderators cannot please everyone all the time - no matter how good they are.

If someone is playing foolish games I am sure they eventually will get caught and get a ban.

Repeat offenders eventually get caught and offenders that stop offending are no longer a menace to society.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 814
This story is not over.
EPILOGUE.
1. In the Russian section there is a professional copy-paste .
inbizin
.
2. Inbizin teaches to write copy-paste , and buy merit.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28954596
http://archive.today/2jdwx
ничeгo мyтнoгo, кoпи бaбки нa мepит и\или клeпaй мyльтoв
4. inbizin gets 100 merit. Sender - xandry MODERATOR Russian section.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1416871
5. inbizin holds competitions copy-paste. Sells? Gives me for a copy-paste.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35923589
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35891506
http://archive.today/xG4vU

Alex_Sr, Avikbch и humantraffic cyдя пo вceмy cкoпипacтили cвoи пocты из oднoгo иcтoчникa(мoжнo нaйти oбщиe cтpoки нaпиcaнныe cлoвo в cлoвo) Grin Grin
Пoдoждy eщe дo yтpa мoжeт ктo caм нaпишeт xopoшo Wink ecли нeт тo пoбeдил пepвый
Кoпипacтy yдaлил, нaдeюcь, тaкoгo бoльшe нe пoвтopитcя. У нeгo yжe ecть пpeдyпpeждeниe зa нapyшeниe пpaвил.
Morality. inbizin wants to buy merit, the moderator sends him a measure, inbizin Sells? gives the merit for copy-paste  . The moderator is WARNING. In the Russian section, everyone is silent, there is nobody to tell the truth. Conclusion: - merit fell into bad hands.
The Silence of the Lambs.
The end.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
We are Bitcoin!
Thank you xandry for your time and finally to notice the topic. I have been trying to get your attention on this topic since the day I have created it, Even I sent you a PM. It took long however, I am happy that ultimately I had you here.

...now I have stopped give merits for explanation of rules, who sends reports, because as a result I had concerns that this could not be used correctly and such way to receive merit would become too easy, and also it isn't clear for many other users....
It's not impossible to earn merit by creating good contents, engaging in conversations, by being to the point. I have no doubt that the idea of yours (there is a reason for you to be a staff) had good intentions however it was too easy to misuse by the members and they in fact took that advantage. Here you have some data.

I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.
The spirit of the whole idea of merit is to encourage users to create good contestants, contents that a relatively high-quality.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1924
฿ear ride on the rainbow slide
Another stuff making fun by Sending merit that he has a responsibility to make him a full member
merit sender  dbshck Received Merit  kaisa

Merit HIstory https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1186242

Nothing looks wrong with their merit history. That staff member is probably a merit source and the member getting the merit is making good posts.
member
Activity: 111
Merit: 12
King of My own World
Another stuff making fun by Sending merit that he has a responsibility to make him a full member
merit sender  dbshck Received Merit  kaisa

Merit HIstory https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1186242
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1924
฿ear ride on the rainbow slide

Wrestling with plagiarism is it bad? Xtraelv - are you against the fight against plagiarism? In the English thread don't struggle with plagiarism? In the English thread respect plagiarists? WOW

It was deleted for being a machine translation. You will notice that I corrected my post in this thread a while back. I have no issues with the deletion of posts that are substandard. The Russian moderators do a very good job.
It was definitely not plagiarism - since I am the author of the English version.

I don't want to break forum rules - I only want to prevent phishing.

I was sad that my well intentioned post was deleted but I now understand fully why it was deleted. I don't disagree with the reason and taikuri13 has very kindly done a new translation for me and PM'd it to me. (Including having checked it here: https://text.ru/antiplagiat/empty) The previous translation was done for me by another user on this forum ( who kindly had translated it for me but not to the standard required for the Russian forum ).

Xal0lex - I do not have any issues with the methods used in the Russian forum and have previously defended the methods used. (Including using merits to reward reporters) . The reasons I like the Russian forum - I find the standard of posts there good, highly organised, great humor and often find information there that is not available in the English forum. I definitely did not intend to cause offence.

My only comment is that for a non native speaker - it is hard to recognize when something is not to an adequate standard.
full member
Activity: 770
Merit: 156
Really, gradually reducing for quite some time now I have stopped give merits for explanation of rules, who sends reports, because as a result I had concerns that this could not be used correctly and such way to receive merit would become too easy, and also it isn't clear for many other users. However, rewarded messages were really useful and often violators removed a cause of infringement.

I get it. In fact, I think this conversation is over.
staff
Activity: 3444
Merit: 4037
Crypto Swap Exchange
This user has used your trust.
What will happen to such further?
I have noticed him too. I can't take away merits so he remains with the same rights as well as other users.
hero member
Activity: 2268
Merit: 669
Bitcoin Casino Est. 2013
Hello everyone. First of all: thanks to all who have explained my point of view in this thread. I have read this thread only today, thanks to user ToTheMoon_XOM9IK which has openly shown discontent in identification of plagiarism.

Really, gradually reducing for quite some time now I have stopped give merits for explanation of rules, who sends reports, because as a result I had concerns that this could not be used correctly and such way to receive merit would become too easy, and also it isn't clear for many other users. However, rewarded messages were really useful and often violators removed a cause of infringement.

Next part...
Yes. well, it's a new thing we're doing...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2775292  Wink
Ok, this is good thread like Mod, please check new plagiarism: Reporting copy/pasting, please permban from LoyceV. You can explain what isn't pleasant to you?
I agree, by using using report to mods may be abused by creating alt accounts to report to mod and get merit. If I am to be questioned I would agree with your terms on how you give your merits as long as it's for the forum. Giving merit for helping moderating thread is not bad for bitcointalk but as a moderation of the thread to be responsible to the thread itself
staff
Activity: 3444
Merit: 4037
Crypto Swap Exchange
Hello everyone. First of all: thanks to all who have explained my point of view in this thread. I have read this thread only today, thanks to user ToTheMoon_XOM9IK which has openly shown discontent in identification of plagiarism.

Really, gradually reducing for quite some time now I have stopped give merits for explanation of rules, who sends reports, because as a result I had concerns that this could not be used correctly and such way to receive merit would become too easy, and also it isn't clear for many other users. However, rewarded messages were really useful and often violators removed a cause of infringement.

Next part...
Yes. well, it's a new thing we're doing...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2775292  Wink
Ok, this is good thread like Mod, please check new plagiarism: Reporting copy/pasting, please permban from LoyceV. You can explain what isn't pleasant to you?
staff
Activity: 2436
Merit: 2347
There are a lot of reporters in the Russian thread.

In the English thread no less.

Telling them not to report themselves, or to submit blank reports makes them look stupid.

And what if they send such reports? Users sending reports to their posts. It's wrong. Therefore, a topic with recommendations for reporters was created. So they don't make such mistakes. What's wrong with that? And nobody does them silly.

Yes. well, it's a new thing we're doing...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2775292  Wink

Wrestling with plagiarism is it bad? Xtraelv - are you against the fight against plagiarism? In the English thread don't struggle with plagiarism? In the English thread respect plagiarists? WOW
full member
Activity: 770
Merit: 156
Yes. well, it's a new thing we're doing...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2775292  Wink
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1924
฿ear ride on the rainbow slide

I'm afraid you were deceived. It actually is the automated translation.

I'm not good in Russian so I cannot comment on whether it is grammatically correct.
He did it for free to help so I don't feel deceived.

When I compare it between google translate and the post it is very different.

Maybe someone can do a better translation and post it on the Russian forum to prevent phishing. (like theyoungmillionaire kindly did for me on the Filipino forum)
(I can provide the links and images to make it easier)
hero member
Activity: 504
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I'm afraid you were deceived. It actually is the automated translation.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1924
฿ear ride on the rainbow slide
was translated and checked by a native Russian speaker

Was translated and checked so incredibly, that moderator (not xandry - another one) considered it as translation via automated tools (violation of p.27)?Smiley

http://archive.today/SVeMc was the post.

Was translated for me by a Russian. It was an attempt to prevent phishing. (Russians are particularly targeted by phishing because it is difficult for them to report it to authorities)
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