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Topic: The 21 Bitcoin Computer - page 4. (Read 11856 times)

legendary
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www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games
September 23, 2015, 01:47:53 PM
I like the idea of the Bitcoin Computer (looks awesome) but the only thing is that it is too expensive. With less than $400, I can set up a RPI and a decent miner. It's still good though, as it's a way to encourage other people to get interested on Bitcoin  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
September 23, 2015, 01:25:58 PM

there will be always a little demand for everything, but it will end up at best like trezor, which isn't requested to much
sr. member
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Merit: 250
legendary
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Merit: 3391
September 23, 2015, 12:14:55 PM
The mining feature is not very useful, so I'm curious why they included it. My guess is that the mining feature is simply a trojan horse designed to get more people to look at their platform.

So, that means that their product will be an embedded computer running a proprietary transaction system that may or may not use off-chain bitcoins. I expect the mining feature to be dropped.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
September 23, 2015, 11:55:14 AM
Yes.
Soon your fridge will mine Bitcoins and order free food for you.

By the time your refrigerator generated enough bitcoin to buy 1 gallon of milk it will be so far in the future we probably won't need refrigerators any more.
maybe the refrigerator can buy 1 egg a month from the bit coins it generates. better than nuffin.
legendary
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Newbie
September 23, 2015, 11:37:08 AM
By the time your refrigerator generated enough bitcoin to buy 1 gallon of milk it will be so far in the future we probably won't need refrigerators any more.

Haha, good one.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
September 23, 2015, 11:35:08 AM
Yes.
Soon your fridge will mine Bitcoins and order free food for you.

By the time your refrigerator generated enough bitcoin to buy 1 gallon of milk it will be so far in the future we probably won't need refrigerators any more.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
September 23, 2015, 08:59:14 AM
You purchase bitcoin through purchase electricity, thus bypass the exchange. But the cost of that machine is much higher than the electricity cost, so it must be sold together with home electronics

But micro transaction kills bitcoin network, so those micro transactions will be merged together at IOT manufacturer's central server and settled from there
So the manufacturer will exactly know what you are purchasing, reading etc.

This is not good for privacy.
I think this will not be very successful, probably just an attempt of offloading unneeded ASIC chips to dumb enough people..

A society of home electronics, trading against each other using bitcoin as official currency. But what you can buy from another machine?
Maybe you can buy heroin or crack cocaine from a drug dealing robot or something.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1012
Beyond Imagination
September 23, 2015, 08:56:07 AM
You purchase bitcoin through purchase electricity, thus bypass the exchange. But the cost of that machine is much higher than the electricity cost, so it must be sold together with home electronics

But micro transaction kills bitcoin network, so those micro transactions will be merged together at IOT manufacturer's central server and settled from there
So the manufacturer will exactly know what you are purchasing, reading etc.

This is not good for privacy.
I think this will not be very successful, probably just an attempt of offloading unneeded ASIC chips to dumb enough people..

A society of home electronics, trading against each other using bitcoin as official currency. But what you can buy from another machine?
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1074
September 23, 2015, 08:53:00 AM
I will not buy this computer... there are just too many nasty backdoors and trojans being inserted into bloatware these days. http://www.pcworld.com/article/2886278/how-to-remove-the-dangerous-superfish-adware-presintalled-on-lenovo-pcs.html

There were also people inserting mining software into pirated software a while ago... https://torrentfreak.com/new-utorrent-release-breaks-ties-with-bitcoin-miner-150413/

Whatever is added to this software, should be verified by a independent companies not associated with this them and it must be open source.

What client will be pushed? Core or XT? 
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
September 23, 2015, 08:45:38 AM
You purchase bitcoin through purchase electricity, thus bypass the exchange. But the cost of that machine is much higher than the electricity cost, so it must be sold together with home electronics

But micro transaction kills bitcoin network, so those micro transactions will be merged together at IOT manufacturer's central server and settled from there
So the manufacturer will exactly know what you are purchasing, reading etc.

This is not good for privacy.
I think this will not be very successful, probably just an attempt of offloading unneeded ASIC chips to dumb enough people..
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1029
September 23, 2015, 08:43:40 AM
Very cool idea and bravo for that. Hopefully it is simple for the user.

legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1012
Beyond Imagination
September 23, 2015, 08:34:58 AM
You purchase bitcoin through purchase electricity, thus bypass the exchange. But the cost of that machine is much higher than the electricity cost, so it must be sold together with home electronics

But micro transaction kills bitcoin network, so those micro transactions will be merged together at IOT manufacturer's central server and settled from there
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1000
September 23, 2015, 07:37:56 AM

implying electricity comes for free, right? Smiley the internet of things and smarthome technology is really cool IMO, but this is not the bitcoin of things.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1012
Beyond Imagination
September 23, 2015, 03:29:51 AM
For the miners or people with mining experience out there...

How much Bitcoin (a rough estimate) would a person be able to mine daily by using this?

you earn ~0.00055-0.0011 BTC/day or 12-24c/day ($7/mo max) with only 4c/day expense if you are at $0.1/kwh-pretty standard in US.
However, this is NOT a computer to mine, this is a computer to program stuff and GET PAID in bitcoin-maybe $hundreds or more/day.
How exactly-your imagination is the limit.

That's it! If you program based on instructions sent from 21 Inc, you will receive 1 bitcoin per 1000 lines of codes, directly paid into your wallet on this little thing  Wink  And their huge R&D project now becomes a distributed programmers' network  Roll Eyes But to pay $400 to join this freelance network ...
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
September 23, 2015, 03:09:44 AM
Hi,

As a long time Bitcoin Miner.  I would like to clarify the Mining portion of this thing.  At 120 GHS you will not be mining Bitcoins per se.  You will be mining Satoshi's.  Big, big difference.

To recieve even .1 Bitcoin per day takes about 15 THS at current Difficulty.
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 1004
September 23, 2015, 02:43:20 AM
For the miners or people with mining experience out there...

How much Bitcoin (a rough estimate) would a person be able to mine daily by using this?

you earn ~0.00055-0.0011 BTC/day or 12-24c/day ($7/mo max) with only 4c/day expense if you are at $0.1/kwh-pretty standard in US.
However, this is NOT a computer to mine, this is a computer to program stuff and GET PAID in bitcoin-maybe $hundreds or more/day.
How exactly-your imagination is the limit.

These amaounts are really low with 400 dollars investment and also these btc computer can ship 16th November. Why will people buy this btc computer? I do not understand anything about it. I miss something.

Because "This is amazing   Shocked"

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12485714
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