Funny. No American dream mate, it's living the life to fullest. Go to the work, listen to what boss says, what gossip colleagues has to make, spend some time on the forum, go out for the coffee 2-3 times in a day. Have typical lunch like home cooked food and sometimes cuisines if money is left over. That's just common life I am living and most of the people around me. These days things are worsening with the inflation and high unemployment. Not just that but increased grocery pricelist is another problem for me and the community here. Everywhere you go its the same gossip again and again.
However, I would like to point out that, if someone asks whether America would be the next destination then most of them does have dream for that but I don't know if things are really great out there as they are shown?
Topic: The American Dream. What is Your Country's Version of it? - page 2. (Read 436 times)
This is a very tricky discussion, without going too deep into the debate, let me make the concession. Due to land, the poor decide to stop working, because they finally realize all the hardwork they contribute, they are not gonna get reward with anything, instead of working toward farming food on the land, they decide to go to war, this way with less people to compete, they can have more land to spare, basic supply and demand theory.
That doesn't really answer why Australia is not going to war and trying to seize islands while Russia does, why are some poor countries not interested in the land, and why some are. Besides, it's never the masses that go on a land conquest.
Well, I think you would have know the answer by now, it is not too confusing to understand how they end up to destruction, why Russia is destroying itself? According to economist, because the UFO invading earth, because Ukrain, because Nuclear energy, because climate changes blah blah blah. But which is the real truth?
Dictatorship and brainwashed people that think they are bringing the world the Russian mir while half of them don't have inside plumbing? Communism that destroyed the ability to think outside the box, private enterprises private initiative, and has led to a level of corruption and bribery worse than cancer?
It's pretty easy to know when someone is to blame, you ask him who the culprit, if he's pointing at the world order, reptilianism, or capitalism without knowing what capitalism is then obviously he's the one.
I think the American dream is an illusion created by leaders in America to get their citizens to work.
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I just want to accumulate enough Bitcoin so I can be able to get a van and go live off-grid.
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I just want to accumulate enough Bitcoin so I can be able to get a van and go live off-grid.
Shows pretty much why half the world sucks.
Screw work, I just want to get some Bitcoins that will magically go up in value so I don't have to work one second in my life.
Of course, the American dream is not for you, and of course, the US sucks compared to the country you're living in right now, right?
Btw, which country is that, the Netherlands of Philipines?
... With a high unemployment rate, housing crises, increasing student debts, inflation, recession, wars, famine, high interest rates and all those factors that affect the economic mobility of many families both in America and all over the world threatening to wipe out the middle class, would we still say that the American Dream exist? Is it still achieveable or attainable?
what shall we say about a country wherever it is will always be different regarding the dreams of its citizens which will lead to the Ideal Nation. The reality is many people living in poverty, homeless, and low-income scrabble to survive in America, most of them are like that probably because of the consequence of drugs or the social environment. The American Dream still exists but not everyone is able to achieve it.
First of all I just wanted to ask that these dreams are actually yours? Because I always felt that its what the government wanted from you so they keep injecting this as should be your dream and eventually it caught up to. But do you really think any rich person has such dream so eventually id has to differ from every individual not just something we told to be.
I think the American dream is an illusion created by leaders in America to get their citizens to work. They make them think that if they work their 9 -5 for 35 or 40 years, they are within that time would have attained the American dream.
But oh not...no American dream. Too many issues stopping people from it. The American dream is for those born with a silver spoon.
I don't know what version of the American dream my country has and I don't care. I just want to accumulate enough Bitcoin so I can be able to get a van and go live off-grid.
But oh not...no American dream. Too many issues stopping people from it. The American dream is for those born with a silver spoon.
I don't know what version of the American dream my country has and I don't care. I just want to accumulate enough Bitcoin so I can be able to get a van and go live off-grid.
Each country may have its own American dream. But basically all of them refer to Equality, Equality, Individualism, Freedom and Prosperity together. Every citizen and every country has the same dream about this. But in its application in daily life we can clearly see that this dream is fading. Equality and equity look harmonious when sitting together with those who have the same level of wealth. But equality and equality will become unrealizable when two people who have different levels of wealth sit together. like people at the lower economic level it will be very difficult to sit with people who have middle and upper economic levels. Even so in the world of work. Opportunities to get a job in fact are not the same. People who have relationships and connections are still the priority even if he is not competent at work. Even a genius would be left out if he didn't have enough relationships and connections. But we must not give up to make this dream come true. Because if we give up then who will continue this American dream for various versions from each country which basically have the same goal, namely to get the opportunity to achieve prosperity and success together.
The association of this dream with America, capitalism, or liberation is caused by the film industry and Hollywood, since in the past all news came from this industry until television, which was indirectly controlled by capitalism. You see that your country is hell and opportunities are narrowing, and you turn on the TV to find the land of dreams, where a simple job makes you live to cover the basics and you have money for investment and tourism.
The American dream is the individual's ability to do that and when he meets these requirements, he is better than a large number of the world's population and is not linked to the United States. It is people's desire to live a better life and not to move to another country, but it is impossible for them to live this life in their homelands, so they leave.
The American dream is the individual's ability to do that and when he meets these requirements, he is better than a large number of the world's population and is not linked to the United States. It is people's desire to live a better life and not to move to another country, but it is impossible for them to live this life in their homelands, so they leave.
Secondly every country in the world has some version of their American dream, if your country does, what is its version of the American dream and does it still exist? Is it still achieveable or attainable?
The people are prosperous, the country is strong. If the financial system is unstable, it will reduce the effectiveness of monetary policy, disrupt economic activity and potentially trigger moderation or even economic contraction and if the financial system is stable, the intermediary function and other financial services in the financial system remain optimal and contribute to national economic growth and dream version of the American dream will be achieved as you convey and ask above of course.
I think in the current economic climate, the American Dream is more about personal fulfilment and less about material wealth.
The American Dream is a set of values & aspirations that motivate and inspire many people in America. The idea of the American Dream still exists but I think it has changed over time. The idea of a better life and a brighter future is still attainable but it is now more focused on achieving personal success through education, hard work, & entrepreneurship rather than on the pursuit of material wealth.
The American Dream is a set of values & aspirations that motivate and inspire many people in America. The idea of the American Dream still exists but I think it has changed over time. The idea of a better life and a brighter future is still attainable but it is now more focused on achieving personal success through education, hard work, & entrepreneurship rather than on the pursuit of material wealth.
I agree, however this can only be true for some. I know that there are still those who view the American Dream as having such lavished home, number of cars, luxury items and such. Perhaps this is due to the different perspective and idea we have about US.
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If you ask most people around the world what they mean by the “American dream,” nearly all will respond with some version of upward social mobility, the American success story, or the self-made man (rarely the self-made woman). Perhaps they will invoke the symbolic house with a white picket fence that suggests economic self-sufficiency and security; many will associate the phrase with the land of opportunity for immigrants.
https://www.bushcenter.org/catalyst/state-of-the-american-dream/churchwell-history-of-the-american-dream
https://www.bushcenter.org/catalyst/state-of-the-american-dream/churchwell-history-of-the-american-dream
The above is a quote from the George Bush Institute of the typical response an individual would receive when they ask someone about what the American dream is. And this is the truth, the American dream includes the component of upward economic mobility. So many successful people in the United States of America would agree that they have achieved the American dream and those who are not yet there would agree that they are in the process of achieving or reaching the American dream.
With a high unemployment rate, housing crises, increasing student debts, inflation, recession, wars, famine, high interest rates and all those factors that affect the economic mobility of many families both in America and all over the world threatening to wipe out the middle class, would we still say that the American Dream exist? Is it still achieveable or attainable?
Secondly every country in the world has some version of their American dream, if your country does, what is its version of the American dream and does it still exist? Is it still achieveable or attainable?
After birth, the mentality of the place where we live is involuntarily laid in each of us. And this greatly affects our views and thoughts about the ideal country. And every country and nation relative to the United States will seem completely different. And its residents will call different things if they are asked if the United States is an indicator of a country of fulfilled dreams for them. I am sure that Asians will say that in the USA there are no necessary strict rules, both etiquette in communication and in work. People from Scandinavian countries will say that even though nature in the USA is beautiful, but people drive themselves too much into the framework of the American dream, forgetting about true freedom and purity of spirit. Etc. I will not describe the fact that the USA is a rich country, in my opinion, the wealth obtained by the endless printing of the dollar is questionable. And in the long run, not a very good phenomenon.
I think in the current economic climate, the American Dream is more about personal fulfilment and less about material wealth.
The American Dream is a set of values & aspirations that motivate and inspire many people in America. The idea of the American Dream still exists but I think it has changed over time. The idea of a better life and a brighter future is still attainable but it is now more focused on achieving personal success through education, hard work, & entrepreneurship rather than on the pursuit of material wealth.
The American Dream is a set of values & aspirations that motivate and inspire many people in America. The idea of the American Dream still exists but I think it has changed over time. The idea of a better life and a brighter future is still attainable but it is now more focused on achieving personal success through education, hard work, & entrepreneurship rather than on the pursuit of material wealth.
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If you ask most people around the world what they mean by the “American dream,” nearly all will respond with some version of upward social mobility, the American success story, or the self-made man (rarely the self-made woman). Perhaps they will invoke the symbolic house with a white picket fence that suggests economic self-sufficiency and security; many will associate the phrase with the land of opportunity for immigrants.
https://www.bushcenter.org/catalyst/state-of-the-american-dream/churchwell-history-of-the-american-dream
https://www.bushcenter.org/catalyst/state-of-the-american-dream/churchwell-history-of-the-american-dream
The above is a quote from the George Bush Institute of the typical response an individual would receive when they ask someone about what the American dream is. And this is the truth, the American dream includes the component of upward economic mobility. So many successful people in the United States of America would agree that they have achieved the American dream and those who are not yet there would agree that they are in the process of achieving or reaching the American dream.
With a high unemployment rate, housing crises, increasing student debts, inflation, recession, wars, famine, high interest rates and all those factors that affect the economic mobility of many families both in America and all over the world threatening to wipe out the middle class, would we still say that the American Dream exist? Is it still achieveable or attainable?
Secondly every country in the world has some version of their American dream, if your country does, what is its version of the American dream and does it still exist? Is it still achieveable or attainable?
Perhaps it is one of their most popular slogans, but there is others: "land of opportunities", "your dreams come true," etc.
It is a stigma that sells products, especially mainstream entertainment,; movies, TV, and music.
Your question, fall into the trap, in your country there is the equivalence of the American dream, please, you can succeed in any part or country of the world, even with a better % than the United States.
The world revolves around everyone and opportunities are for those who take advantage of them.
Of course, we must not cover up the reality that there are countries that have more advantages than others, but don't give me the story that it only happens in the United States.
In conclusion, each country has its version of utopia in that American phrase.
It is a stigma that sells products, especially mainstream entertainment,; movies, TV, and music.
Your question, fall into the trap, in your country there is the equivalence of the American dream, please, you can succeed in any part or country of the world, even with a better % than the United States.
The world revolves around everyone and opportunities are for those who take advantage of them.
Of course, we must not cover up the reality that there are countries that have more advantages than others, but don't give me the story that it only happens in the United States.
In conclusion, each country has its version of utopia in that American phrase.
The core essence of American dream is providing equal opportunities for every citizen irrespective of their religion, race, color or back ground.This idealistic vision has been adopted by politicians in almost every country, including my own, as a rallying cry during election campaigns. however, the harsh reality is that, nepotism pervades is spread in every sector of economy favoring connections over merit and qualifications.
Even within United States the American dream is subject to criticism due to widening gap between rich and poor.
Even within United States the American dream is subject to criticism due to widening gap between rich and poor.
I think that every country's dream is to get prosper but we cannot say that one country's dream can be beneficial to other countries too. No doubt the Americans want their citizen to give them the best lifestyle and they also want to reduce the inflation and the gap between rich and poor in their own country.
However, I don't think that think in such a way when they make policies for the other under-developed countries. The recent wave of IMF policies implemented in our country suggests that International monetary giants do not give importance to the lifestyle of the poor countries where people's lives are getting miserable due to increased inflation.
USA population is 330 million but the USA is not occupying all the land in the American continents, which btw are less than 30% of all land, Americas means also Venezuela and Haiti and there the dream is having food next day.
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...Russia has plenty of land and look where it is, the Netherlands has 20 times the density of Sweden or Sudan , ...Too much land might be a curse ...
Well, I think you would have know the answer by now, it is not too confusing to understand how they end up to destruction, why Russia is destroying itself? According to economist, because the UFO invading earth, because Ukrain, because Nuclear energy, because climate changes blah blah blah. But which is the real truth? Why nobody want to talk about land seizure, all due to land itself not something else. Is too much land a curse? It might attract a lot of jealousy, and a lot of invaders, yup, too much land can be a curse when the population in the land begin to uprise against it, when the population begin to shout foul-play, and going on a large scale protest. However that is rarely an issue in today society, that is highly surveillanced.
The American dream is a vague concept. If you walk the streets of America, you will see homeless people lying in the street, a lot of dirt, etc. The center of cities is usually tidy, but the outskirts..... There is no harm in dreaming. Reality is different from dreams
Unfortunately, we do not have a version of the American dream here in my country. I live in a country ravaged by war, its economy deteriorated, and its infrastructure destroyed. Therefore, my country's version of the American dream is immigration to a civilized country.
Most of the young people here have only one dream, which is to emigrate outside this devastated country to get a better chance and start a new life away from wars and chaos, because they despair of all this.
A dream needs material means to achieve it, but unfortunately some people do not even have the ability to dream.
Most of the young people here have only one dream, which is to emigrate outside this devastated country to get a better chance and start a new life away from wars and chaos, because they despair of all this.
A dream needs material means to achieve it, but unfortunately some people do not even have the ability to dream.
My country doesn't have a version of the American dream. Maybe my country's deviated version of the American dream would be to have a rich relative and use his connections and influence to help me get a good job and climb the social ladder. This is nepotism/crony capitalism basically. 
Unfortunately nepotism is more cherished than hard work where I live. USA isn't what it used to be. The amount of immigrants doing to America trying to chase the American dream is decreasing every year. USA is turning slowly into a shithole and that was pretty much expected.
Unfortunately nepotism is more cherished than hard work where I live. USA isn't what it used to be. The amount of immigrants doing to America trying to chase the American dream is decreasing every year. USA is turning slowly into a shithole and that was pretty much expected.Well I could relate, I don't know how to explain the American Dream in my country which is PH because I think there's none? The fact that there's a lot of corrupt officials here that American Dream won't even matter to some people. That's why a lot of people here would prefer to work abroad just to chase that dream because there's less opportunity here. They would build that dream to other country where they could dream higher from there. In my case, I would just love to life in other country, I know there's also difficulty in there what country doesn't have an issue right? But maybe the difference about the opportunity and the improvement of the economy here has a huge gap to other country. I don't know even some healthcare here would cost you much.
We are in Bitcoin forum and talk about American dream, is it needed?
It should be Bitcoin dream or Bitcoin dream in the America (United States). It is a better dream with bullish sentiment from Bitcoin community, adoption and market.
It is time for de-dollarization as the purchasing power of US dollar lost over time while Bitcoin purchasing power increases a lot over time.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/purchasing-power-of-the-u-s-dollar-over-time
It should be Bitcoin dream or Bitcoin dream in the America (United States). It is a better dream with bullish sentiment from Bitcoin community, adoption and market.
It is time for de-dollarization as the purchasing power of US dollar lost over time while Bitcoin purchasing power increases a lot over time.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/purchasing-power-of-the-u-s-dollar-over-time
I am not entirely sure, maybe going to south side of the nation for retirement could be for ours too, our nation has very hot and nice places on the south side called Mersin, Antalya, Bodrum (Mugla), Aydın, Marmaris and all that, and the general west side could be too, Alacati, Foca, Ayvalık, Erdek and dozen other places. Usually people want to stop working and go there and live there. Main reason is that 15+ million, close to 20 million people all live in the same city Istanbul. Which means that we all live in a jammed city basically never seeing anything nice. If we could have enough money to go there, it would be possible to just chill all day there, could be a job there too, its basically going to one of those, that's our dream, wear shorts, relax shirt and all, a moped bike maybe, and just relaxing all day long and having fun at night with friends drinking all night long.
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