I don't understand why there are no legit online casinos that don't commit obvious fraud. It really goes to show the state of society today. They're already running a business where all they need to do is market and bring in customers to make money. It's guaranteed they will profit. But it's not enough. They must cheat and steal on top of it.
The betsoft games were obvious fraud. Don't ever play anything from betsoft. The isoftbet games are a little better, but those games have shit pay out and just drain you slowly over time. Still a guaranteed loss, just not as flagrant as betsoft.
It's not even limited to online casinos. Even brick and mortar casinos commit obvious fraud. If you want a real chance at winning money from a casino take a queue from the ocean's series of movies.
Topic: THE BETSOFT SCAM AND HOW THEY HAVE BEEN RIPPING YOU OFF! (Read 2700 times)
Thanks for the link, interesting reading. The company that Betsoft is licensed by is not and should not be responsible for auditing them, that should be done by an independent body.
But the licensor should be responsible to check if the Betsoft software is audited by an independent body, or not? I do not know what the license requirements are in regards to a gaming software provider like Betsoft, but I know that the licensor has to proof the identity / addresses of the licensees. And if Betsoft has a rigged gaming software, you could sue the operator of Betsoft.
If nobody is regularly auditing them then why do reputable online casinos continue to host Betsoft slots knowing this, surely they ask for audit reports from their game providers or I would have thought so.
This would be a good question to the reputable casinos, why they use Betsoft. I know that many scammy and anonymous casinos use Betsoft scam gaming software, because Betsoft let them use their software anonymously.When in doubt just choose games.bitcoin.com where all the games are provably fair and no need to register an account.
The best thing you can do nowadays, with all the scams in the height of USD million, is to register your gaming or betting account with Game Protect, because then you will have at least a consumer protection service included. In most cases you can sue the responsibles, but players are sluggish and not really wiling to put some money on the table to enforce their claim and instread simply continue to lose $1000s or $10,000s.
Out of curiosity, how many people still playing slots using Betsoft scam gaming software?
Almost anyone who is new to gambling or bitcoin probably definitely tries the games out in their initial gambling experience. Most of the people aren't aware of the provably fair systems and blindly trust the casinos and their games.
The thing is that most of the advanced slots used by Betsoft will not work easily with any provably fair method, slots like them use RTP (return to player) which should normally bet set at about 96-98% i believe but i don't know who is supposed to audit this with online casinos.
If nobody is regularly auditing them then why do reputable online casinos continue to host Betsoft slots knowing this, surely they ask for audit reports from their game providers or I would have thought so.
When in doubt just choose games.bitcoin.com where all the games are provably fair and no need to register an account.
Out of curiosity, how many people still playing slots using Betsoft scam gaming software?
Almost anyone who is new to gambling or bitcoin probably definitely tries the games out in their initial gambling experience. Most of the people aren't aware of the provably fair systems and blindly trust the casinos and their games.
Out of curiosity, how many people still playing slots using Betsoft scam gaming software?
Almost anyone who is new to gambling or bitcoin probably definitely tries the games out in their initial gambling experience. Most of the people aren't aware of the provably fair systems and blindly trust the casinos and their games.
Out of curiosity, how many people still playing slots using Betsoft scam gaming software?
I would not be surprised to hear that lots of people are still playing Betsoft slots because they are still active on most of the popular gambling sites. Until the sites using Betsoft games refuse to continuing hosting them people who don't know better will still play them. ^^ This is hardly proof that particular game is rigged, the screen shot simply shows that you were most likely just unlucky with that hand, get over it.
Betsoft has a history of rigging their games. Go research...I know this screen shot doesn't prove much. But like I said. I was stupid enough to play one and on a large bet. This is what I was dealt
In fact here is a video that bust betsoft for rigging their games https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhalYzlNCh8
If you read a few of the posts in this thread and others you would have seen that i have followed this from the start.
Out of curiosity, how many people still playing slots using Betsoft scam gaming software?
So you know betsofts has rigged games in the past yet you still play it. BTW, that pirate game contains no 10 value cards which hurts the player as there are less cards for the dealer to bust. Come talk to me after you've seen dealer hit 4 blackjack in a row several times. Just last month I bet 100x3 hands and gives me splits with doubles and doubles on the other two hands and I had 4 20s so 800mbtc at stake and not surprisingly he hits 21. I try not to play betsoft blackjack if I can help it. Sometimes I get a small run but overall it feels super rigged. The countless times he hits 21/20 and blackjacks seems above average. They dont have much options for blackjack at bitcasino so I often end up playing it. The only online casino I've played at that feels super random for BJ is at Bovada/Ignition. I've gone on some sick runs whereas betsoft blackjack if you don't get out after winning some it for sure will take it back. It never lets you get on a true heater.
To play at bitcasino is indeed a good idea! Warning SportsBet.io + BitCasino.io
Your warning means jack shit.
I've played on bitcasino for over two years and never had a single issue with them.
While you have no withdrawal issue, 90% of the player funds could be already embezzled! See Online Gaming Embezzlement - General info. Too good to be true promotions create fake money which is not covered by real money!You get run off every other gambling forum you try to promote your "game protect" bullshit on...
Game Protect receives over 80% of the traffic thru google and does not rely on to promote on brain wash forums. But we search for and find victims on forums, this is true.Please explain the bullshit of an online gaming consumer protection service? You promoted the publicly proven betcoin.ag scam and still have your meaningless and dumb spelling style, which is a precondition to get accepted for their signature campaign.
...and it goes without saying your trust here is shot lol.
I do not understand what you are saying here, but I have never cheaten anyone! Do you mean that the lies and nonsense posted in my feedback section is proof of my untrustworthy, like the sun is moon and war is peace?
I have good experience with at the copa, greedy goblin and single hand bj of Betsoft, now I dare not play any more, I stop playing my betsoft game, although I have earned a few bitcooins on these games. BTW, boomanji is a great lucky slot too. 
I played it and completed some bonus rollover
I played it and completed some bonus rollover So you know betsofts has rigged games in the past yet you still play it. BTW, that pirate game contains no 10 value cards which hurts the player as there are less cards for the dealer to bust. Come talk to me after you've seen dealer hit 4 blackjack in a row several times. Just last month I bet 100x3 hands and gives me splits with doubles and doubles on the other two hands and I had 4 20s so 800mbtc at stake and not surprisingly he hits 21. I try not to play betsoft blackjack if I can help it. Sometimes I get a small run but overall it feels super rigged. The countless times he hits 21/20 and blackjacks seems above average. They dont have much options for blackjack at bitcasino so I often end up playing it. The only online casino I've played at that feels super random for BJ is at Bovada/Ignition. I've gone on some sick runs whereas betsoft blackjack if you don't get out after winning some it for sure will take it back. It never lets you get on a true heater.
To play at bitcasino is indeed a good idea! Warning SportsBet.io + BitCasino.io
Your warning means jack shit. I've played on bitcasino for over two years and never had a single issue with them. You get run off every other gambling forum you try to promote your "game protect" bullshit on and it goes without saying your trust here is shot lol.
So you know betsofts has rigged games in the past yet you still play it. BTW, that pirate game contains no 10 value cards which hurts the player as there are less cards for the dealer to bust. Come talk to me after you've seen dealer hit 4 blackjack in a row several times. Just last month I bet 100x3 hands and gives me splits with doubles and doubles on the other two hands and I had 4 20s so 800mbtc at stake and not surprisingly he hits 21. I try not to play betsoft blackjack if I can help it. Sometimes I get a small run but overall it feels super rigged. The countless times he hits 21/20 and blackjacks seems above average. They dont have much options for blackjack at bitcasino so I often end up playing it. The only online casino I've played at that feels super random for BJ is at Bovada/Ignition. I've gone on some sick runs whereas betsoft blackjack if you don't get out after winning some it for sure will take it back. It never lets you get on a true heater.
To play at bitcasino is indeed a good idea! Warning SportsBet.io + BitCasino.io
WOW!!!!
So you know betsofts has rigged games in the past yet you still play it. BTW, that pirate game contains no 10 value cards which hurts the player as there are less cards for the dealer to bust. Come talk to me after you've seen dealer hit 4 blackjack in a row several times. Just last month I bet 100x3 hands and gives me splits with doubles and doubles on the other two hands and I had 4 20s so 800mbtc at stake and not surprisingly he hits 21. I try not to play betsoft blackjack if I can help it. Sometimes I get a small run but overall it feels super rigged. The countless times he hits 21/20 and blackjacks seems above average. They dont have much options for blackjack at bitcasino so I often end up playing it. The only online casino I've played at that feels super random for BJ is at Bovada/Ignition. I've gone on some sick runs whereas betsoft blackjack if you don't get out after winning some it for sure will take it back. It never lets you get on a true heater.
To play at bitcasino is indeed a good idea! Warning BitCasino scam
So like a dummy, I tried playing a betsoft BJ type of card game. I betted 100 mbtc and this is the rigged crap im talking about.
So you know betsofts has rigged games in the past yet you still play it. BTW, that pirate game contains no 10 value cards which hurts the player as there are less cards for the dealer to bust. Come talk to me after you've seen dealer hit 4 blackjack in a row several times. Just last month I bet 100x3 hands and gives me splits with doubles and doubles on the other two hands and I had 4 20s so 800mbtc at stake and not surprisingly he hits 21. I try not to play betsoft blackjack if I can help it. Sometimes I get a small run but overall it feels super rigged. The countless times he hits 21/20 and blackjacks seems above average. They dont have much options for blackjack at bitcasino so I often end up playing it. The only online casino I've played at that feels super random for BJ is at Bovada/Ignition. I've gone on some sick runs whereas betsoft blackjack if you don't get out after winning some it for sure will take it back. It never lets you get on a true heater.
^^ This is hardly proof that particular game is rigged, the screen shot simply shows that you were most likely just unlucky with that hand, get over it.
Betsoft has a history of rigging their games. Go research...I know this screen shot doesn't prove much. But like I said. I was stupid enough to play one and on a large bet. This is what I was dealt
In fact here is a video that bust betsoft for rigging their games https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhalYzlNCh8
^^ This is hardly proof that particular game is rigged, the screen shot simply shows that you were most likely just unlucky with that hand, get over it.
So like a dummy, I tried playing a betsoft BJ type of card game. I betted 100 mbtc and this is the rigged crap im talking about.
regulating onine gambling cannot be done,when a country starts to regulate
all the casinos suddenly change jurisdiction and rightfully so
all "regulation" is just additional payments to the goverment and casinos are going to compensate that by lowering odds
or any other way that affects us gamblers directly
also you think that if that casino was regulated it would pay jackpot,don't think so
all the casinos suddenly change jurisdiction and rightfully so
all "regulation" is just additional payments to the goverment and casinos are going to compensate that by lowering odds
or any other way that affects us gamblers directly
also you think that if that casino was regulated it would pay jackpot,don't think so
This is exactly why online gaming needs to be regulated.
If online sites were forced to have their software audited to be provably fair, at least something could be done to protect the players.
As of now you are basically giving money to a business, hoping they aren't cheating you, and hoping they pay you when you win.
That doesn't even begin to get into the subject of the amount of tax that would be generated and the good things that could be done with this money.
(A whole separate reason to regulate online gaming.)
You can not regulate online gaming worldwide! If online sites were forced to have their software audited to be provably fair, at least something could be done to protect the players.
As of now you are basically giving money to a business, hoping they aren't cheating you, and hoping they pay you when you win.
That doesn't even begin to get into the subject of the amount of tax that would be generated and the good things that could be done with this money.
(A whole separate reason to regulate online gaming.)
And for the price of 30% tax? Forget it! We offer online gaming consumer protection either cost free or after donations.
is there a list of websites that use betsoft software? Honestly, I would never touch online casino games anyway. Why do it? I rather contain my impulse and eat a bucket of ice cream then give my money away for free.
This is a list of most, if not all the websites that use betsoft, both fiat and bitcoins. http://www.nodeposit.org/software/Betsoft&page=1
Most slot games use betsoft, so if you are interested in playing a slot game, double check it first to make sure that they are not using betsoft.
is there a list of websites that use betsoft software? Honestly, I would never touch online casino games anyway. Why do it? I rather contain my impulse and eat a bucket of ice cream then give my money away for free.
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