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newbie
Activity: 35
Merit: 0
April 01, 2014, 01:05:42 PM
Can anyone give me any ideas as to why this is happening?



Two Sapphire 7850s, which in cgminer and bfgminer mining scrypt give pretty much identical results (been running them since August).

Running vertminer with the settings below, one card gives about 6Kh/sec, the other gives 170 or so.  From what I've read, 170 is about what I should expect... so why is the other card doing almost nothing?

I'm using the .conf file, and here are the relevant settings:

Code:
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"expiry" : "30",
"scan-time" : "5",
"shares" : "0",
"gpu-threads" : "2",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"gpu-engine" : "1050",
"gpu-fan" : "0-85",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"gpu-memclock" : "0",
"gpu-memdiff" : "0",
"gpu-powertune" : "0",
"gpu-vddc" : "0.000",
"intensity" : "12",
"temp-target" : "75",
"temp-overheat" : "85",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"vectors" : "1",
"worksize" : "64",
"thread-concurrency" : "6400",

All suggestions appreciated.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
March 31, 2014, 08:02:39 PM
Does anyone have any insight on why my single R9 290 never seems to submit as many shares as any of my 280x cards (GPU2 vs GPU0 and GPU1 in the screenshots below)?  It runs very stable at 445Kh/s, but has about 20% less shares that the two 280x toxics I have running on the same rig at 387Kh/s.  The 290 is still 10-15% lower in shares than some of my other 280s that run at ~360Kh/s.  These are separate instances of vertminer running on the same machine, since I'm running 1 thread for the 290 and two threads for the 280s.  Also, I'm currently mining EXE, but I use identical settings for VTC and have identical results.

toxics:
Code:
 ./vertminer --scrypt-vert -d 0,1 -g 2 -w 256,256 -I 13,13,20 --thread-concurrency 8192,8192 --lookup-gap 2,2 --gpu-engine 1080,1080 --temp-target 72,72 --gpu-memclock 1500,1500 --gpu-vddc 1.2,1.2 --auto-fan --gpu-powertune 20,20 --queue 2 --scan-time 5 


290:
Code:
 ./vertminer --scrypt-vert -d 2 -g 1 -w 256 -I 13,13,20 --thread-concurrency 24550 --gpu-engine 1080,1080,1000 --gpu-memclock=1500  --gpu-powertune 20 --queue 2 --scan-time 5 




simple.. vardiff.

variable difficulty is most likely used on the pool your connected to it's common these days..
i have an Nvidia 550Ti and an ATI 7950 both mining VTC and the nvidia card Always submits far more shares
and when i look at my workers you can see the difficulty used on the two workers is much lower on the Nvidia card.
SO the pool is letting the slower card do easier work basically and making your more powerful card do harder work (hashing).

edit:
I have experimented for a while using cgwatcher to force a restart of the miner every 10/15 minutes but i am not sure that makes any worthwhile difference.
I am pretty sure it increased my submitted share count because it said so in the stats (you can see it on Monitor tab middle of the page where it says your submitting x per sec.)
what that does is force the pool to start over giving you easy shares at the start and by the time it figures out your card is powerful your miner has rebooted lol
I said earlier cgwatcher has some pretty nice features guys Wink
member
Activity: 135
Merit: 10
March 31, 2014, 07:14:00 PM
Does anyone have any insight on why my single R9 290 never seems to submit as many shares as any of my 280x cards (GPU2 vs GPU0 and GPU1 in the screenshots below)?  It runs very stable at 445Kh/s, but has about 20% less shares that the two 280x toxics I have running on the same rig at 387Kh/s.  The 290 is still 10-15% lower in shares than some of my other 280s that run at ~360Kh/s.  These are separate instances of vertminer running on the same machine, since I'm running 1 thread for the 290 and two threads for the 280s.  Also, I'm currently mining EXE, but I use identical settings for VTC and have identical results.

toxics:
Code:
 ./vertminer --scrypt-vert -d 0,1 -g 2 -w 256,256 -I 13,13,20 --thread-concurrency 8192,8192 --lookup-gap 2,2 --gpu-engine 1080,1080 --temp-target 72,72 --gpu-memclock 1500,1500 --gpu-vddc 1.2,1.2 --auto-fan --gpu-powertune 20,20 --queue 2 --scan-time 5 

290:
Code:
 ./vertminer --scrypt-vert -d 2 -g 1 -w 256 -I 13,13,20 --thread-concurrency 24550 --gpu-engine 1080,1080,1000 --gpu-memclock=1500  --gpu-powertune 20 --queue 2 --scan-time 5 

I think it's because of the additional stale shares caused by running the 290 with a high work time (a side effect of high intensity). I'm not sure why that's not showing up in your WU rates here though.

The 290 can be run at a good hash rate with -g2 at low intensity by using sgminer and xintensity (in my experience, --xintensity 4 or 5, depending on make and model; TC will also vary).
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
March 31, 2014, 12:42:43 PM
getting 212kh/s with my sapphire hd7870 tahiti

tc 8000
-v 1
-g 1
-i 18

card is underclocked to gpu @885 mem unchanged v 1.000 and powertune to -13

use to get 430 with litecoin or dogecoin
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
March 30, 2014, 12:49:26 PM
A few of my R9 290 arrays have been doing a bit of mining for Vertcoin and other nscrypt coins recently.

Edit: found a better TC value for the MSI cards.  Brings yield up to 442KH/s from previous 426KH/s.  Updated details below (but didn't bother taking a new screenshot).

These are my stable hashrates:



All Rigs
- 4GB of RAM
- Barebones gentoo-based mining OS
- sgminer compiled from source whenever interesting commits appears on github
- General Config:
Code:
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"xintensity" : "160",
"thread-concurrency" : "28672",

"algorithm" : "nscrypt",
"nfactor" : "11",
"kernel" : "zuikkis",

msi5miner
- Running 5x MSI R9 290 Twin Frozr IV.  
- Stable just above 441KH/s with very moderate tuning.
- These cards are running the OEM supplied BIOS.
- Config:
Code:
"thread-concurrency" : "20481",

"gpu-powertune" : "0",
"gpu-engine" : "1000,1000,1000,1000,1000",
"gpu-memclock" : "1250,1250,1250,1250,1250",

trixminer
- Running 4x Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X OC.
- Stable at 470KH/s, 2x 456KH/s, and 452KH/s (~460KH/s average).
- These cards are running The STILT's BIOS.
- Config:
Code:
"gpu-powertune" : "12",
"gpu-memclock" : "1375",
"gpu-engine" : "1040,1020,1020,1000",

windowminer
- Running 5x Sapphire R9 290 BF4 Reference Cards.
- Stable at 3x 455KH/s and 2x 435KH/s (~448KH/s average).
- These cards are running The Stilt's BIOS.
- Config:
Code:
"gpu-powertune" : "16",
"gpu-memclock" : "1375,1375,1375,1375,1375",
"gpu-engine" : "1020,980,1020,1020,980",
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
March 30, 2014, 12:23:59 PM
Does anyone have any insight on why my single R9 290 never seems to submit as many shares as any of my 280x cards (GPU2 vs GPU0 and GPU1 in the screenshots below)?  It runs very stable at 445Kh/s, but has about 20% less shares that the two 280x toxics I have running on the same rig at 387Kh/s.  The 290 is still 10-15% lower in shares than some of my other 280s that run at ~360Kh/s.  These are separate instances of vertminer running on the same machine, since I'm running 1 thread for the 290 and two threads for the 280s.  Also, I'm currently mining EXE, but I use identical settings for VTC and have identical results.

toxics:
Code:
 ./vertminer --scrypt-vert -d 0,1 -g 2 -w 256,256 -I 13,13,20 --thread-concurrency 8192,8192 --lookup-gap 2,2 --gpu-engine 1080,1080 --temp-target 72,72 --gpu-memclock 1500,1500 --gpu-vddc 1.2,1.2 --auto-fan --gpu-powertune 20,20 --queue 2 --scan-time 5 
http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq292/swaz_photos/280xb.jpg

290:
Code:
 ./vertminer --scrypt-vert -d 2 -g 1 -w 256 -I 13,13,20 --thread-concurrency 24550 --gpu-engine 1080,1080,1000 --gpu-memclock=1500  --gpu-powertune 20 --queue 2 --scan-time 5 
http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq292/swaz_photos/290c.jpg

newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
March 30, 2014, 09:11:56 AM
Gigabyte HD 7970 im getting around 360 kh/s with these settings

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
.\vertminer-0.5.3\vertminer.exe --scrypt-vert -o stratum+tcp://stratum.vtcpool.co.uk:3333 -u XXXXX -p XXXXXX -w 256 -g 2 --auto-fan --temp-cutoff 95 --temp-overheat 85 --temp-target 75 --gpu-engine 1050 --gpu-memclock 1500 --gpu-powertune 20 --thread-concurrency 8193 --intensity 13

The only thing i actually changed from mining other coins with cgminer is the thread concurency up +1 from the old 8192
works fine on both vertminer 5.2 and 5.3
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
March 30, 2014, 12:13:02 AM
New pool H2O

http://h2o.cryptocoinpool.net

290x seting (380+Khs)

{
"pools" : [
   {
      "url" : "stratum+tcp://h2o.cryptocoinpool.net:3335",
      "user" : "username.x",
      "pass" : "pawsord"
   }
]
,
"intensity" : "19",
"vectors" : "1",
"worksize" : "256",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "24550",
"shaders" : "0",
"gpu-engine" : "1020",
"gpu-fan" : "50-100",
"gpu-memclock" : "1250",
"gpu-memdiff" : "0",
"gpu-powertune" : "25",
"gpu-vddc" : "0.000",
"temp-overheat" : "85",
"temp-target" : "75",
"api-listen" : true,
"api-port" : "4028",
"expiry" : "15",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"hotplug" : "5",
"log" : "5",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"failover-only" : true,
"queue" : "0",
"scan-time" : "1",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"shares" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin",
"scrypt-vert" : true
}

280X Seting
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 200
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
COLOR 02
vertminer.exe --scrypt-vert -o stratum+tcp://69.126.130.200:3335 -u user.x -p x --thread-concurrency 7800 --remove-disabled --submit-stale --lookup-gap 2 -w 256 -I 13 -g 2 --auto-fan

newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
March 29, 2014, 05:19:53 PM
what are the best settings for 2x R9 290x Tri-x OC? im getting 260kh/s per card?
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1014
March 29, 2014, 04:15:55 PM
i knew you guys would start arguing with me with out even checking the P2Pool source code that i downloaded almost a year ago (hint hint)
what's new lol
No one's arguing with you, you're the one who's arguing. Smiley All I'm saying is that setting the diff manually might've helped me to get normal hashrates on one of my rigs. I do understand that it's not supposed to do anything with hashrates and I never argued with you that it is. Due to some bug in the miner or p2pool or whatever it did help once though. Since there were no other suggestions on how to fix that user's problem I told him to try this.
PS: i am always right Wink
Sucks to be you then. Grin
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
March 29, 2014, 03:52:59 PM
i knew you guys would start arguing with me with out even checking the P2Pool source code that i downloaded almost a year ago (hint hint)
what's new lol

read the following at this link for example.. http://treasurequarry.com/

and i quote..

Quote
This will get your miner to report when it finds "pseudo-shares" of a particular difficulty appropriate to your hashrate.
Bear in mind that you will still need to find real shares of the "Share difficulty" (shown on the statistics page) to be eligible for payouts.
Once have then started to find real shares you'll get paid when p2pool finds blocks.

PS: i am always right Wink
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
March 29, 2014, 02:46:42 PM
I'm using a PowerColor 7950 and only getting about 200 KH at 12 intensity right now, and so far every time I try to raise my intensity past 12, I get a bunch of HW errors.

Current settings:
Code:
setx GPUMAXALLOCPERCENT 100 
setx GPUUSESYNCOBJECTS 1

Vertminer.exe --scrypt-vert -o stratum+tcp://eu.hashing.at:3021 -u Sapphire.Sapphire -p x -s 10 -E 30 -Q 1 -w 256 -I 12 -g 2 --lookup-gap 2 --gpu-powertune 20 --gpu-memclock 1500 --gpu-engine 1070 --thread-concurrency 6912

I've tried a tc of 8192 before, and it's approximately the same KH (about 10 ~ 25 lower on average).
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1014
March 29, 2014, 11:01:07 AM
specifying the rate on P2Pools only affects what the graph is showing you when you look at the stats web page it doesn't effect your hashing performance.
I don't know a lot about P2Pools but guys that do will back me up on that i am sure..
The concept was to smooth out how the graphs look i think pretty much.
So with or with out the extra command your going to make the same amount of coins.
I've had a rig with 3x7970 that were mining at ~ 60-70% of the expected hashrate when connecting to a p2pool node, and after setting the difficulty manually the cards suddenly started hashing at full speed. With all the alt coins out there I don't exactly remember which one that was (guessing scrypt-n and vertminer) and whether it was a problem with the p2pool implementation for that coin or with the miner, but still I remembered encountering that weird behavior and since then I've been always setting difficulty for miners manually.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
March 29, 2014, 09:40:00 AM
m50b25: If you're connecting to a p2pool node, try specifying the difficulty by multiplying your hashrate by 0.00000116, in your case it should be something like  -u Vd8EUUAq...+0.001624 -p x. I remember having low bitrate for some of my 7970s with some algo on p2pool before and setting the diff manually helped, not sure whether it was scrypt-n though or some other algo, but worth a try. It's your worker name (VTC address in your case) + 0.001624 without any spaces. Another suggesting is to get rid of the config file temporarily, you've got a lot of stuff in there and not everything might work with vertminer, when troubleshooting like this it's better to just start with default simple settings, no config, just bare minimum command line.


Thanks for your reply. I will look in to it this weekend. I will come back with the results.

m50b25:  You mentioned going down to 1030 on core speed, but have you tried going lower? If you haven't, try setting one card to 950 in vertminer, and move it up in increments of 10.




Yes i tried from 1000-1090. I will try 950-1000 with increments of 10 this weekend. I will post the results here after.

specifying the rate on P2Pools only affects what the graph is showing you when you look at the stats web page it doesn't effect your hashing performance.
I don't know a lot about P2Pools but guys that do will back me up on that i am sure..
The concept was to smooth out how the graphs look i think pretty much.
So with or with out the extra command your going to make the same amount of coins.

here is some examples to use..

Code:
Hashrate in KHash/s  /  Difficulty to append to YOURCOINADDRESS
1 +0.00000116
5 +0.00000582
10 +0.00001164
50 +0.00005821
100 +0.00011641
250 +0.00029103
500 +0.00058207
750 +0.00087310
1000 +0.00116414

so i would have this on my command line for 50KHs -o stratum+tcp://anduin.yvr.sitkalogic.com:9171 -O KdSwAv74QSkKNf7KxXdrZ37VHwN4Sp727y+0.00005821:x

edit:
I have been also using Cgwatcher with vertminer and i like all the extra stuff it has, its a pretty cool free extra program to help manage your miner !
http://coinmyne.com/software/cgwatcher/
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
March 29, 2014, 06:08:29 AM
hanks, tried but can't get past 400KH/s per R9 290 here, you must have golden cards!
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
March 29, 2014, 06:02:38 AM
hanks, tried but can't get past 400KH/s per R9 290 here, you must have golden cards!
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
March 28, 2014, 08:28:45 PM
This is what my bat file for my attempt at vertcoin mining.  I have a 7950 and am getting 330kh/s, which is awesome but I am running at about 90C  Huh  Not sure if I am not using the temp set command correctly.  Any suggestion, I don't want to burn my card out.

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
COLOR 0A

vertminer.exe --scrypt-vert -o stratum+tcp://westlist.cloudapp.net:3444 -u Draxus.1 -p angel --thread-concurrency 8192 -I 13 --shaders 1792 --gpu-powertune 20 -w 256 -g 2 --lookup-gap 2 --temp-target=75 --temp-overheat 85 --temp-cutoff 90


I also have a different bat file where I set my clock but that is running around 310kh/s but I'm still around 86C

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
COLOR 0A

vertminer.exe --scrypt-vert -o stratum+tcp://westlist.cloudapp.net:3444 -u Draxus.1 -p angel --thread-concurrency 8192 -I 13 --shaders 1792 --gpu-engine 1100 --gpu-memclock 1450 --gpu-powertune 20 -w 256 -g 2 --lookup-gap 2 --temp-overheat 85 --temp-cutoff 90
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
March 28, 2014, 03:11:52 PM


"intensity" : "18,18",
"worksize" : "256",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"gpu-engine" : "950,1100",
"gpu-memclock" : "1250,1465",
"thread-concurrency" : "20481,14208",
"expiry" : "30",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"gpu-vddc" : "1.25,1.20",
"scan-time" : "1",
"device" : "0-1"
}

does this setting for 290 (1st gpu) and 270x (2nd gpu) okay or not?
full member
Activity: 430
Merit: 100
March 28, 2014, 11:13:18 AM
Can't Get my 280x over 150Kh/s. anyone please help?

Code:
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
vertminer.exe --scrypt-vert -o stratum+tcp://stratum.vtcpool.co.uk:3333 -u gilad215.room -p x --intensity 13 --worksize 256 --lookup-gap 2 --gpu-engine 1050 --gpu-memclock 1500 --thread-concurrency 8192

on verminer 0.5.3 its even worse! tried tweaking vddc with no results.
full member
Activity: 149
Merit: 100
March 28, 2014, 03:15:52 AM
I keep getting a GPU 0 dissabled error and its "OFF" my 7950 works fine with other coins :/. Vertminer (newest) is what im using gives me the Error -4 error. What am I doing wrong.

.bat: vertminer --scrypt-vert -o stratum+tcp://p2pool.crunchpool.com:26490 -u SbszncJWpHKADxWdF9fAkaLh9s6T5wPzmG -p x
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