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Topic: The Bitcoin environment seems toxic right now... has it felt like this before? - page 2. (Read 11044 times)

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FUCK THIS SHIT!!

You seriously MUST be CRAZY to have anything to do with BITCOIN!! This is my observation after only three months!!

If you think this is the new frontier in currency, unfortunately you are DELIRIOUS!

My posts are now being moved, and I am called a troll for my negative, BUT HONEST experiences and posts made about the SCAM that is BITCOIN.

My technical issues were never solved, I had two payments never received, even though they were on the blockchain, they were never accounted for in the QT and no "EXPERTS" here have ever solved the problem.
Subjects and posts left are now being manicured, and I'll even go as far as saying it was GRUE who intercepted my P.M., logged onto my PC through Teamviewer, stole my Private keys and deleted the TeamViewer history.  

NOW I'm getting allegations of being pseudo and quasi!!

I cannot even find one soul to take what I am saying seriously and offer help.

BITCOIN - Just one giant Ponzi scam run by criminals!


I will taking my own advise given and will be returning with a vengeance!!







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Newsflash:  you're on the wrong side of reality.

Bitcoin has already won.  It's the most powerful
computer network in the world.

Hahaha. Watch me destroy it.
legendary
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If you think mattboldfield is my sock puppet, you are losing your sanity. Just study our writing styles. Consult an expert in writing analysis.
 

"But...but...but i changed my writing style...
i even went to the trouble of creating a fake
history... how did they figure out its me??? waaaaaah"

I have also been accused of being AnonyMint's evil sock puppet.
Boy he must sure be busy creating all these alts Roll Eyes


 
legendary
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If you think mattboldfield is my sock puppet, you are losing your sanity. Just study our writing styles. Consult an expert in writing analysis.
 

"But...but...but i changed my writing style...
i even went to the trouble of creating a fake
history... how did they figure out its me??? waaaaaah"
 
Your persistance in bashing bitcoin is impressive.

Why, just in the above post alone, you've hit the
bankster angle, the fees angle, the speed
of transactions angle, the government witchhunt
angle, the "bitcoin is the myspace of crypto"
angle, and the groupthink angle.
 
Good job!  You must be getting paid handsomely
to be doing 3400+ anti-bitcoin posts here.
 
Newsflash:  you're on the wrong side of reality.

Bitcoin has already won.  It's the most powerful
computer network in the world. 

Keep trolling, its quite amusing.
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If you think mattboldfield is my sock puppet, you are losing your sanity. Just study our writing styles. Consult an expert in writing analysis.

mattboldfield, I must agree with you that it is important to have a life outside of this stuff, but I also agree with molecular that it is important to do something to fix the problem.

Here follows another cross-post:



In practice "off-chain" just means "use something else that's better".

Not exclusively. Offchain also includes centralized exchanges such as a Mt.Gox, instead of decentralized ones (which are in development and don't exist yet). Such offchain exchanges lead to fractional reserves, fraud, and thus government regulation and take over.

Eventually these offchains are banks. Then we are no longer using Bitcoin, rather government regulated fractional reserves called "Bitcoin". This is a very likely outcome, because dumb masses will never want to use decentralized exchanges.They prefer Coinbase and a bank to "secure" their coins.

Then it conflicts with the fundamentals. Bitcoin usage is growing exponentially and the new users/investors need bitcoins. When they buy them, the price rises. Any TA that does not take this into account is harmful for the financial well-being of its user Smiley

Assuming no exchange is creating a massive amount of fractional reserves. Fractional reserves are possible when people are not transacting their coins, just buy and hold on the exchange such as Coinbase. But Coinbase is honest (?).

The more valuable Bitcoin becomes, the more incentive to create Bitcoins from thin air. You really don't think the banksters will just sit idle and watch you become $billionaires at their expense do you?

They've been doing this racket for 100s of years, and you expect them to just roll over and play dead?

The time of BTC is upon us if we accept that the masses will use it if offchain regulated businesses provide fixes to all the useability problems with Bitcoin onchain (e.g. 10 - 60 minute transactions, private keys stolen, etc).

I seriously doubt "offchain regulated businesses" will help Bitcoin or ANYTHING.

I've asked Bitcoin developers why the BTC fees are so high for small transactions. I know some of you will want to argue about this but you might as well admit the truth: Sending big amounts of BTC is cheap, sending small amounts is expensive. It just does not work for micropayments. Bitcoin developers argument is that "but OFFCHAIN TRANSACTIONS!".

Guess what? Fiat cash is a good example of an Offchain Transaction. I know this is what Bitcoin developers mean when they use that term but it's true: Cash transactions are not on the blockchain since they do not involve Bitcoin. Other "offchain" (as in NOT bitcoin) alternatives will come along and win the market for micropayments (where Bitcoin can not compete). Telling people to use "offchain" solutions to problems Bitcoin can not solve is in my opinion the same as saying "don't use Bitcoin, use something else".

I've studied this in technical (not to be confused with chart TA) detail. Zero transactions fees are possible in a properly designed altcoin but not in Bitcoin's design. There are crucial things that can never change in Bitcoin's design any more.

Offchain can improve other things such as the 10 - 60 minute transaction delay for Bitcoin. It is also possible to design an altcoin without such a significant delay so "nearly instant" online micropayments can remain decentralized and on chain.

There will be serious competitors to Bitcoin, but see below...

Then it conflicts with the fundamentals. Bitcoin usage is growing exponentially and the new users/investors need bitcoins. When they buy them, the price rises. Any TA that does not take this into account is harmful for the financial well-being of its user Smiley

This is so super important.  Bitcoin's fundamentals are very compelling.  Until something comes along that solves nearly ALL of bitcoin's problems and overtakes it's growing network effect bitcoin continues to have a lot of built in fundamental propulsive power.  Considering that many solutions to bicoin's shortcomings will be layers on top of bitcoin, there is also a possibility, in my opinion, that within bitcoin itself and its community is the solution to it's own problems.

The solution to the capital gains problem is Bitcoin becomes fiat. This could happen eventually and investors could pile now in under that assumption.

I see the mainstream crypto-currency has to be the government sanctioned one. There is no other way around that. Might as well just accept it, and think about the implications for yourself as an investor, specifically the witchhunt against all wealth coming as the governments tax+confiscate into oblivion and the lack of anonymity in Bitcoin as compared to gold or some hypothetical altcoin (apparently not DarkCoin nor CoinJoin though).

Some have argued they don't care if society confiscates (taxes) 90% if their gains are 1000X. That is still 100X gains.

Then again if there is an anonymous coin that gives you 10,000X (because it is smaller and you are earlier to invest), and you don't face taxes nor confiscation, those investors are going to be 100X higher on the totem pole, e.g. $billionaires versus $10 millionaires. Think private jets instead of old manors.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-22/imfs-property-tax-hike-proposal-comes-true-uk-imposing-mansion-tax-soon-year

It's very easy - I have often done it myself - to get so caught up into advocating one's position that one fails to see the incoherencies in ones own case.  An old saying is apposite:  There are none so blind as those who will not see.  

When you are making a case to a broad audience as well as to a correspondent -- as is typical in a forum post -- your case is not well served if you refuse to see what all the other readers can easily see.  Denial is not an effective strategy, either logically or rhetorically.  

I see very clearly why you support the mainstream crypto-currency and normally that is the correct move (also you probably have no deep programming or technical skills so you couldn't change the situation if you were so inclined, you are reliant on the trend for your stored monetary capital, i.e. No Money Exists Without the Majority). I also see very clearly that every 80 years or so, the mainstream goes in chaos with confiscation and war.

So I see failure of the mainstream 2016ish. Why should I board the Titantic?

Should Google have never improved upon Yahoo? Should Facebook have not taken over from Friendster and Myspace? Can you be sure Bitcoin is an exception to the usual rule that the first one is almost never the winning one.

Groupthink
Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people, in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome.

group·think
ˈgro͞opˌTHiNGk/
noun
noun: groupthink; noun: group-think

    1.
    the practice of thinking or making decisions as a group in a way that discourages creativity or individual responsibility.
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The MtGox issue happened because people keep their wallets online. It's heavily recommended to send the bitcoins from those sites to another account of your own, where you possess the private key.

You have to sum up that now most transactions are fee mandatory, minimum transfer is 5430 sathoshi, and there are dozen of websites whose operation is far from transparent (lot of sites don't display conversion fees publicly, other don't allow you to export your private key, and so on); and is quite troublesome to convert from bitcoin to conventional money, provided that if you want low fees it demands at least some days for bank transfer operation.
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I didnt read many threads regarding that but i have the same feeling. The bitcoin price is low and dont want to go up now. Then MtGox was a big hit. Several other big exchanges died too, people wait for their coins from many projects and so on. You cant invest in mining hardware or mining IPO's anymore because its a pretty sure way to lose bitcoins. And my bitcoin lawyer told me that many want to go out of bitcoin. Realising their profits. So yes... i feel a bad mood around bitcoin.

Though that doesnt mean that i think its over. Its only a real hard time it seems.
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I don't think its toxic, it's just that the euphoria is settling down, which is a good thing in the long run.
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
Someone tried doing a bitcoin is awesome thread, but apparently that was too boring for everyone

I know, sad isn't it. I went from thread to thread complaining that we don't need another Gox thread but no one listens. This forum is made up of a bunch of gossiping bitches.
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Someone tried doing a bitcoin is awesome thread, but apparently that was too boring for everyone
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
Stop bumping this post.  It's a fake, propaganda account from a 1 star poster trying to portray BTC in a bad light on purpose.  Are people really this clueless?  It's some kind of federal reserve note shill


such huge letters... and yet you just bumped this thread yourself Wink

You both should stop bumping this thread. Angry

Why is bumping this thread bad? There are 40+ threads about the fucked up Gox incident that makes Bitcoiners look like retards to the rest of the world but that's ok. What we need to do is stop bumping a thread from a guy that says there's kind of a bad vibe on this forum. lol
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Stop bumping this post.  It's a fake, propaganda account from a 1 star poster trying to portray BTC in a bad light on purpose.  Are people really this clueless?  It's some kind of federal reserve note shill



such huge letters... and yet you just bumped this thread yourself Wink

You both should stop bumping this thread. Angry
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Stop bumping this post.  It's a fake, propaganda account from a 1 star poster trying to portray BTC in a bad light on purpose.  Are people really this clueless?  It's some kind of federal reserve note shill



such huge letters... and yet you just bumped this thread yourself Wink
legendary
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Stop bumping this post.  It's a fake, propaganda account from a 1 star poster trying to portray BTC in a bad light on purpose.  Are people really this clueless?  It's some kind of federal reserve note shill

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Switch to Dogecoin community, these people are more friendly.

Because they're all busy spamming other forums and thinking up new marketing schemes. ;-)
hero member
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Switch to Dogecoin community, these people are more friendly.
and the coin is much better, since it has a Dog on it Wink
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Switch to Dogecoin community, these people are more friendly.
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
For those not familiar with advanced trolling tactics,
Anonymint is the same poster as Mattboldfield.

oh for fucks sake, really?!?. If I'm falling for the trolls,... it's indeed a pleasure.

Occasionally I'm convinced this forum is made up of me and about five other people. There are more posers here than a New York nightclub.
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Great, I can ignore self-obsessed identity #2. Goodbye troll personae mattboldfeld.
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lol, that was "advanced " trolling tactics. Much better than "average" trolling tactics!
and you are right those AJ's are me!
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