I remember coming to the forum to start learning a month ago. I thought I found the treasure. I am a little embarrassed to study by myself. I just want to publish as many posts as possible and make some contributions. I am very happy. I didn't expect it to be so fast. Begin to summarize the decadent system of the forum and question whether the current system really meets the original intention of the forum?
Why are old users repelling new users because they have contributed to the forum for a long time? So you can feel superior? How many new users have been beaten to death by the arrogance of these old guys, everyone You can check the latest post.
I would like to share my personal experience here.
In the last few years, I have suggested this forum to three of my friends.
Two of them did not even manage to register to the end due to evil fee rules.
When they saw the message that because of the evil fee they had to pay some amount to be able to post on this forum they just started laughing and said there was no way they would pay any money for the right to post on some forum.
A third friend managed to register and luckily didn’t get the message that an evil fee should be paid but as soon as he started posting on this forum he was severely attacked by other members for a couple of unintentional, beginner mistakes he made like restarting an old thread that he simply gave up and said he would never return to this forum again.
I am also a member of other forums and the same problem exists there, the declining interest of young people in forums.
This is obviously a trend that can no longer be reversed and forums are slowly becoming an outdated way of internet communication.
However, I believe that a large number of new members have dropped out of this forum due to the evil fee and the hostile welcome of older members.
When everyone came to the forum to post with enthusiasm, they did not receive a warm welcome,
but first to see if there was any problem with the other party, and the proud friends started to take action.
When some people enjoy finding newcomers for fouling, and they are praised for doing well, what kind of forum status is this, what kind of atmosphere? Is this positive energy?
Newcomers need to be careful when entering the forum, because someone will come out and say you problem.
I am complaining I can’t see new users coming in. And while I do agree newer (younger) user might be prone to short attention span, I refuse to think we cannot engage a few thousands people all over the world interested in bitcoin to write a merit worth post monthly in this forum.
This is what worries me the most: a community not able to engage new members is eventually going to die.
And I think that day it would be a sad one.
I think this community in its current state is not very welcoming for new members and that will effect the amount of people are register but also the people who do register might not want to engage out of fear of hostilities. I am not branding the whole community as being unwelcoming because there are definitely people out there that make it like their goal to welcome new members into the community but overall I do think there is a problem there even if it is the minority. The only way we are going to correct that is by more senior members correcting their behaviors.
I totally agree with what you're saying. There has to be a change in the manner which the upper ranks engage newbies. There is boundless information to learn here and it is impossible to know everything at once. Its true there are a lot of spammers who have bad intentions. But please don't label every newbie the same. I think its more effective to treat newbies are like children understanding the time, patience and training that is needed for them to grow run. Sometimes I think every one is too serious and uptight. This is a forum of crypto lovers. Why can't we just have fun?
What do you think? Do you think forum is losing userbase and this is a bad thing? Are there other reasons this is happening and other solutions?
Let's be honest, the forum is static (or evolving at a very slow rate) and that has to be addressed. What stopped the forum from having a mobile app, having a more mobile friendly interface by now or introducing new features that'll make the forum a little bit interesting. For example, apparently I became more active on Facebook around the same time I created my account on the forum and the numerous changes been observed on the platform has a lot to says about how they value the community feedback. I'm not trying to compared both platform since Facebook has so many flaws but you should get an idea of where I'm coming from.
I have seen countless number of thread created giving suggestions on how to improve the forum yet none is been looked into (atleast that's what it looks like). When people starts observing that the forum doesn't care about their suggestions then they'll stop trying to help which is why I think we haven't been seeing much of those suggestions recently. It's no doubt the forum is outdated and something urgent has to be done about this before it gets too late.
We're losing user base and this isn't just because Bitcoin is on the decline of recent and other crackdown by search engine on bitcoin related search etc. We are losing because this generation aren't familiar with this format the forum is using. Things has evolved and the forum should evolved too. I still have my doubts if any of the suggestion made on this thread will be put into consideration although nice initiative my the OP.
I have feelings in the forum and feel that this forum is valuable, so I wrote this appeal post here.
The vast majority of banned novices may never come to the forum again.
How I adore the legendary users at the beginning, they reply to me, I will be so happy, I think it is a great honor to be able to get the guidance of the legend.
And now I don’t think so. Legend does not understand the status quo of new users entering the forum, they have become accustomed to the rules of the forum. They no longer want to change but are satisfied with the status quo.
This is the inherent arrogance and prejudice of these legendary users on the forum,But most people forget that they also came from a novice step by step.
The forum should be more tolerant to novices, rather than just killing them.
I have explained articles about me being reported by that person many times. I still don't know how to post. I tried to publish it. I am very happy to see someone comment. I'm curious. At that time, I also saw the comment that the guy gave me. At that time, I didn't know where to modify the post.
But no one dares to stand up for new users, no one dares to challenge the rules, and novices who are bullied by those guys dare not stand up because their opponents are old users.
They have contributed to the forum because they are older than us. Blame my mother for not giving birth to me earlier. If I was born 10 years ago, it would be a legend.
I must admit I am quite surprised of the quality of this thread.
Every single post contributed valuable ideas and proposal. Even if I might not agree I think everyone tought about what proposed.
So I tried to sum up here the main points that emerged all over the thread. I also included some sort of “proponent” even if the idea was shared or proposed by multiple users. This is why I didn’t link to a specific post.
So, here is the foor for thoughts that emerged on this thread
According to some of the readers of this thread, Bitcointalk is losing steam because of the following reasons:
- Lack of SEO. Bitcointalk.org results are buried in tha back pages [@NeuroticFish]
- Automated payment for posts on other platform[Citation needed] [@NeuroticFish]
- In the last 12 years, community spirit has changed since Satsohi created it: it’s no longer a transnational free spirits community, but some bunch of people looking at bitcoin as a “Get rich quick scheme. As opposed to a “don’t get poor slowly'' scheme. [@JetCash]
- Declining quality of posts [@ddmrddmr]
- Lack of mobile theme [@almost everyone]
- Hostility toward new members [@Daniel91]
- Staticness, or too slowly evolving forum experience [@CryptopreneurBrainboss]
- It’ a natural evolution of the userbase who moves on, not replenished by other members. [@dkbit98]
the forum is dying - and perhaps that's deserved / inevitable. [@ AdolfinWolf]
I am complaining I can’t see new users coming in. And while I do agree newer (younger) user might be prone to short attention span, I refuse to think we cannot engage a few thousands people all over the world interested in bitcoin to write a merit worth post monthly in this forum.
This is what worries me the most: a community not able to engage new members is eventually going to die.
And I think that day it would be a sad one.
I think this community in its current state is not very welcoming for new members and that will effect the amount of people are register but also the people who do register might not want to engage out of fear of hostilities. I am not branding the whole community as being unwelcoming because there are definitely people out there that make it like their goal to welcome new members into the community but overall I do think there is a problem there even if it is the minority. The only way we are going to correct that is by more senior members correcting their behaviors. As for attracting new members I do not think theymos or any of the staff are going to do anything but as a community we could organize things. Hell the only thing that seems to work around here is signature campaigns so maybe we could do a community funded advertising campaign for those that have big followings and pay them for sponsored content or we could fund raise as a community and pay for advertising ourselves but I would like to see some of the forum funds used for this.
Whatever the solution we need to find one as the forum is slowly but certainly losing its members.