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sr. member
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November 08, 2017, 06:11:21 PM
#47
so what will we see will this forum grow and develop itself or will it end in a destructive paranoia?
The way that it is currently going, and has been going for quite some time, destructive paranoia (weird wording). You must realize that the majority of legit people, and by this I mean:
1) Users with very deep understanding of Bitcoin.
2) Non scammers.
3) Non spammers.
4) Non account farmers.
5) Active traders and/or community builders.

have either left or severely reduced their involvement with this place due to the reasons that I've been voicing my strong disapproval of for quite some time now.

hmm well ok fine, then it seems there are future blockchain investment and kapital exchange plattforms, this forum is anyway extremly bitcoinfixed,

can you reccomend me some communities?
legendary
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November 08, 2017, 05:09:05 PM
#46
so what will we see will this forum grow and develop itself or will it end in a destructive paranoia?
The way that it is currently going, and has been going for quite some time, destructive paranoia (weird wording). You must realize that the majority of legit people, and by this I mean:
1) Users with very deep understanding of Bitcoin.
2) Non scammers.
3) Non spammers.
4) Non account farmers.
5) Active traders and/or community builders.

have either left or severely reduced their involvement with this place due to the reasons that I've been voicing my strong disapproval of for quite some time now.
sr. member
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November 08, 2017, 03:44:43 PM
#45
your nativity
Ah yes, it's almost Christmas again.  Big-out-of-breath LOL
There's a reason for which he is on the SMAS list; we have good bullshit detectors. Cheesy

I go with whacking his head. Who will? There should be someone who have a great voice here to take the initiative doing so. Stepping down would be hard to do (if you know what I mean).
Not necessarily. Others have stepped down in the past, even though the roles weren't exactly identical (see sirius).

I think like you, there are so many new accounts appearing every day and the  spam appears in common, it makes the forums washy.
A nice example would be those absolutely brain damaged users who constantly post bounty applications in the wrong thread, but yeah let's all pretend these are "new users" and give them the benefit of the doubt. Give me a break.

so what will we see will this forum grow and develop itself or will it end in a destructive paranoia?
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November 06, 2017, 01:00:59 AM
#44
your nativity
Ah yes, it's almost Christmas again.  Big-out-of-breath LOL
There's a reason for which he is on the SMAS list; we have good bullshit detectors. Cheesy

I go with whacking his head. Who will? There should be someone who have a great voice here to take the initiative doing so. Stepping down would be hard to do (if you know what I mean).
Not necessarily. Others have stepped down in the past, even though the roles weren't exactly identical (see sirius).

I think like you, there are so many new accounts appearing every day and the  spam appears in common, it makes the forums washy.
A nice example would be those absolutely brain damaged users who constantly post bounty applications in the wrong thread, but yeah let's all pretend these are "new users" and give them the benefit of the doubt. Give me a break.
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November 05, 2017, 10:52:53 PM
#43
Having this huge increase on bitcoin user,i think its a good news for us all that its being popularized worldwide.whats important is the management of spammers and the noobs.we must be aware of the over crowded forum in which lots of nonsense is talking around,.and this is the right time for the altcoins to bloom.lets help the cryptoworld to increase all the value of alts by advertising them more often giving them more sympathy than just always bitcoin were talking of
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November 05, 2017, 10:24:22 PM
#42
now you have to research the amount of new post that are made each month more and you have obviously in this forum an exponential development


https://i.imgur.com/OsnW6HQ.jpg

for me this looks like a very huge growth
regards
i think all this growth is because shitdrops, massive spam in last two months most of them are bran new or newbie accounts with the same fucking post 'joined....'.
I think like you, there are so many new accounts appearing every day and the  spam appears in common, it makes the forums washy.
hero member
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November 05, 2017, 09:35:14 PM
#41
Either someone whacks theymos on the head[1], and he realizes that his policies are absurdly stupid, or he steps down. Until one of these two happens, not much is going to change here.

[1] Before some crybaby screams 'violence', this was obviously not meant literally.
I go with whacking his head. Who will? There should be someone who have a great voice here to take the initiative doing so. Stepping down would be hard to do (if you know what I mean).

I think they are simply understaffed. I have seen staff members react quickly to reports and all of my reported posts were always dealt with within hours. The main problem IMO is they have not enough privileges. More people should be able to restore accounts and more people should be put to work to actively remove spam instead of waiting for reports from other users. I know there's enough money to pay them and some people would surely work for tips, just to make thee experience better for all of us.
I have already suggested to add atleast 1 more admin making it 3. One for developing forum software and as a chief administrator (which is theymos), another for support (recovering hacked account and etc.) and lastly an admin who will be hands on implementing rules and the trouble of doing so (ban hammer, ban appeals and etc.)

I remembered there was this person (I can't remember who) who said that where will they get money to pay them. ("Will it be me?" , he added.) The forum's income is more than ten(s) of thousands every week. I think that's enough to just add one more person. You see, admins are needed, an active one. Base on what I see, mods can't do much.

Not sloppily, as you see many of these Asian--no offense to Asians--shitposters plop onto the forum.  It's clear that they're silly and ignorant and only put in as much effort as they have to in order to get paid.
No need to generalize Asians tho. I've known some Asians who have a top notch English both oral and written. Asians are not all about Chinese, Japanese and Koreans (no offense) there are those whose accent is not what you think but rather a neutral one. There are even native English speakers who aren't a master of their own language.

The point is that no need to be... Though influences around your country can affect your mastery in English.

By the word, "many" then yes there are a lot but I try to understand them. Having a sloppy english and doing a shit post at the same time, double problem and worst combination a shitposter can have (imo).
legendary
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November 05, 2017, 07:45:52 PM
#40
your nativity
Ah yes, it's almost Christmas again.  Big-out-of-breath LOL

Lauda's posts are always interesting and written in good, plain English.  Not sloppily, as you see many of these Asian--no offense to Asians--shitposters plop onto the forum.  It's clear that they're silly and ignorant and only put in as much effort as they have to in order to get paid.

I read books in my spare time.  I am used to things being well-written, and it's absolutely jarring to read some of these shitpost comments.  The quality is horrendous, and this bovine excrement isn't something that people should be paid to do.

See the above example.  Your command of the English language, the language which you should be writing in here, is atrocious.
sr. member
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November 05, 2017, 07:38:30 PM
#39
20% more usage in September 40% more usage in october,

the worlds financial centre is moving towards this bitcoin forums  Grin

thats how it looks i saw media reporters arround here

that means this forum needs to look more like a financial centre Grin

more neutral more stylisch and jes not so bitcoin fixed.

here a dektop picture i made
--snip--



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-02/bitcoin-exchange-added-100-000-users-in-a-day-as-price-exploded

obvious, users exploding everywhere... 100'000+ users in one day
bitcoin now is mainstream

bitcoin? never bitcoin is pure tulpomania and poison for the infrastructure, cryptoeconomics is

regards
hero member
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November 05, 2017, 06:17:25 PM
#38
As if all of this are really not spam accounts. A single person can create a lot of accounts and spams the forum throughout every single day. That certain statistics can only be more reliable if we are getting each data for every single unique users or maybe their IP address(which is not recommended anyways).

Tho we can't deny the fact the we are really increasing in numbers it is just that certain data has a low probabilities.
hero member
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November 05, 2017, 03:50:58 PM
#37
Truth be told. It would be far more productive and nicer to dedicate the time in making the forum better today onwards. Past is there but future is coming which will be defined in the present time.
And how do you suggest we do that, with a main admin that doesn't care? It's very easy to say 'we should focus on making the forum better', but with the person in charge being essentially useless that is near impossible.
I don't know. I am not the one in power so I don't really know what capabilities and the extent of their position but I can say that it should start from above, the admins (the one who has the greatest authority here).

Basically, do their job. What could have been done, what to do, what will do.

I think they are simply understaffed. I have seen staff members react quickly to reports and all of my reported posts were always dealt with within hours. The main problem IMO is they have not enough privileges. More people should be able to restore accounts and more people should be put to work to actively remove spam instead of waiting for reports from other users. I know there's enough money to pay them and some people would surely work for tips, just to make thee experience better for all of us.
legendary
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November 05, 2017, 01:26:08 PM
#36
Ah now I know why your posts takes about an hour to be done, you are carefully taking person's words from the contexts to write your rubbish opinion under it. Just you to know, I don't care about SMAS and your nativity, I have only meant that you set high standards to other users.
All your points were absolutely stupid and destroyed by other users, but yeah keep accusing others of posting "rubbish" while actually spamming with pretend-genuine-posts. Roll Eyes

Coinbase users != bitcointalk users.

bitcoin now is mainstream
Bitcoin is far from mainstream.

Truth be told. It would be far more productive and nicer to dedicate the time in making the forum better today onwards. Past is there but future is coming which will be defined in the present time.
And how do you suggest we do that, with a main admin that doesn't care? It's very easy to say 'we should focus on making the forum better', but with the person in charge being essentially useless that is near impossible.
I don't know. I am not the one in power so I don't really know what capabilities and the extent of their position but I can say that it should start from above, the admins (the one who has the greatest authority here).

Basically, do their job. What could have been done, what to do, what will do.
Either someone whacks theymos on the head[1], and he realizes that his policies are absurdly stupid, or he steps down. Until one of these two happens, not much is going to change here.

[1] Before some crybaby screams 'violence', this was obviously not meant literally.
hero member
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November 05, 2017, 01:22:35 PM
#35
Truth be told. It would be far more productive and nicer to dedicate the time in making the forum better today onwards. Past is there but future is coming which will be defined in the present time.
And how do you suggest we do that, with a main admin that doesn't care? It's very easy to say 'we should focus on making the forum better', but with the person in charge being essentially useless that is near impossible.
I don't know. I am not the one in power so I don't really know what capabilities and the extent of their position but I can say that it should start from above, the admins (the one who has the greatest authority here).

Basically, do their job. What could have been done, what to do, what will do.
legendary
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November 05, 2017, 01:19:11 PM
#34
20% more usage in September 40% more usage in october,

the worlds financial centre is moving towards this bitcoin forums  Grin

thats how it looks i saw media reporters arround here

that means this forum needs to look more like a financial centre Grin

more neutral more stylisch and jes not so bitcoin fixed.

here a dektop picture i made
--snip--



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-02/bitcoin-exchange-added-100-000-users-in-a-day-as-price-exploded

obvious, users exploding everywhere... 100'000+ users in one day
bitcoin now is mainstream
legendary
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November 05, 2017, 09:20:27 AM
#33
Truth be told. It would be far more productive and nicer to dedicate the time in making the forum better today onwards. Past is there but future is coming which will be defined in the present time.
And how do you suggest we do that, with a main admin that doesn't care? It's very easy to say 'we should focus on making the forum better', but with the person in charge being essentially useless that is near impossible.
sr. member
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November 05, 2017, 08:15:49 AM
#32
Can you stop posting mini walls of text, as they are full of bullshit with no actual meaning nor truth? Thanks. You are obviously neither qualified nor experienced enough to asses, evaluate and discuss the situation that this forum is in.

i am not posting bullshit! i just show the great opportunities.

if you want to have less scam posting there are many possible solutions, why dont you introduce just an ID sign up or some kind ID certifications for accounts, exchanges do this all the time, people could ignore.

uncertified postings with their settings.

national financial centres also dont ignore approaches of people that dont speak their language.

or stock/comoditiy exchanges, people that dont know the custom rules.

I agree with KingScorpio. It is better to see the potential of growth in users and try to canalize it.

Of course there are shitposters among new users, but if he has ideas, why not listen to what he has to say?

I see this a case of someone seeing the bottle half empty whereas someone else sees it half full.

Making the forum a capital market sounds very interesting to me. I don’t know how that would be possible and how it would have to be implemented but at least to listen to the idea and deciding about it after, not before, would be wise.

I think @KingScorpio you should address the owner directly.

I also think you are right in saying that situation has changed. This forum is not how it was 3 years ago and it probably never will be like that again. For me, it is better to adapt to changes rather than complaing about how cool the past was and how things have changed for worse.


making this forum a serious capital market, you have to reshape its design

i could help with that project

1. divide forum in anonymous and non anyonymous certified and identified users.
2. divide sub categories for the projects that apply here for finance,
3. develop project development also, many people are looking for global borderless teamups here.

4. certification teams with contracts can develop certification and evaluation checks to give their opinion about candiates, that apply for financing

better division between the categories of the economic sectors that are beeing financed, here, like gambling infrastructure, vaults etc.

i know this is not a perfect description
but this is how i would deal with the situation, because both will growth shity posters that are not able or willing or selfassure enough to post and apply in the certified identified legally observed section


that would involve some work but this is what the community looks for

i could now post 50 links to threats in the altcoin section
regards
legendary
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November 05, 2017, 12:39:13 AM
#31
the same fucking post 'joined....'.
Yeppers.  I have that section blocked--and for a very good reason--but I temporarily unblocked it just for the *ahem* entertainment value, and I was absolutely blown away by the volume of shitposts there, even after mprep posted the rule about no garbage "thanks", "joined airdrop", etc. posts.  I reported a whole bunch of them, because I was bored and had nothing better to do.  So yeah, that might account for a lot of them.  

When I joined bitcointalk in 2015, I don't remember there being any of those airdrops.  That seems to be a somewhat recent development, and one in which a lot of 3rd world country shitposters participate.  And, on top of that, I very strongly suspect people are using a ton of alt accounts and that some of those accounts are created for the sole purpose of bumping the airdrop threads.  That whole section is just a mess, and I would hate to have mprep's job of moderating it.

Then some of it I think is just people becoming interested in bitcoin because of its crazy-ass rise to $7000.  I'm sure that accounts for some of this, but I think it's mostly that damn altcoin token section.

I don’t know if you are indirectly referring to me when you talk about the “*ahem* entertainment value,” because I’ve defended in this section that many posts which people call low-value have entertainment value. But I’m not referring to the alts section at all. I think I’ve been on that section like 4 or 5 times in total since I joined bitcointalk. And I also think it is the biggest source of spam and scams.
legendary
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November 05, 2017, 12:22:35 AM
#30
Quote
I also saw several Newbies with really interesting posts, but most of users are starting the same topic threads, like "Bitcoin vs Gold" over and over again.

Just read this line and something came to my mind. Why not introduce a feature like quick search before posting a new thread, it would greatly reduce the spam threads on the forum. Like for example if users want to search for 'transaction being stuck' instead of creating the thread right away, show them a small list of 'quick' result, it will be a good forum feature and could help identify spammers.
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November 05, 2017, 12:16:59 AM
#29
have only meant that you set high standards to other users.
Isn't that good? What do you want? Accepting shitposters rather than those who are far more deserving?
1. "Yes" won't be a good comment.
Not always. Sometimes it could be a good comment than adding unnecessary details which, in the end, doesn't answer the question given in clarity.
2. I also saw several Newbies with really interesting posts, but most of users are starting the same topic threads, like "Bitcoin vs Gold" over and over again.
Then still you suggested doing so despite of knowing this? So, you will limit this newbies who are making interesting posts (like you said) because of those who are not.
3. Basically unused accounts don't have any affect on the forum, but yes, my idea was to delete those accounts which inactive for months and years.
Think. What if there is a valid reason why they are inactive for awhile and decided to come back using his former account which had the reputation and known contact of him while doing business. So, you will just let him start from the scratch instead of giving him a chance to resume his business?
4. Believe me I know about "Archive" section on the forum, but if you didn't notice it is providing a big cleaning on the forum from last two months and a lot of old threads have been removed already, and it has nothing with removing of shit posts, but probably it has something with shit threads generally.
You know archive but you didn't know what archive is? If that's it then it is understandable.

For me, it is better to adapt to changes rather than complaing about how cool the past was and how things have changed for worse.
Truth be told. It would be far more productive and nicer to dedicate the time in making the forum better today onwards. Past is there but future is coming which will be defined in the present time.
legendary
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November 04, 2017, 11:06:55 PM
#28
Can you stop posting mini walls of text, as they are full of bullshit with no actual meaning nor truth? Thanks. You are obviously neither qualified nor experienced enough to asses, evaluate and discuss the situation that this forum is in.

i am not posting bullshit! i just show the great opportunities.

if you want to have less scam posting there are many possible solutions, why dont you introduce just an ID sign up or some kind ID certifications for accounts, exchanges do this all the time, people could ignore.

uncertified postings with their settings.

national financial centres also dont ignore approaches of people that dont speak their language.

or stock/comoditiy exchanges, people that dont know the custom rules.

I agree with KingScorpio. It is better to see the potential of growth in users and try to canalize it.

Of course there are shitposters among new users, but if he has ideas, why not listen to what he has to say?

I see this a case of someone seeing the bottle half empty whereas someone else sees it half full.

Making the forum a capital market sounds very interesting to me. I don’t know how that would be possible and how it would have to be implemented but at least to listen to the idea and deciding about it after, not before, would be wise.

I think @KingScorpio you should address the owner directly.

I also think you are right in saying that situation has changed. This forum is not how it was 3 years ago and it probably never will be like that again. For me, it is better to adapt to changes rather than complaing about how cool the past was and how things have changed for worse.
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