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Topic: The Bitcoin Show on OnlyOneTV.com - page 13. (Read 53430 times)

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September 08, 2011, 11:52:31 AM
You guys gotta understand that this isn't like a real show where enough outraged viewers can call the sponsors and have them put pressure on the makers.  None of the advertisers is a big enough name to have their reputation "tarnished" by sponsoring a con man's internet show, and even if they were, the viewership is basically nonexistent, so who's going to see it?  If you call them and tell them about the scams, they'll just think, "oh, I didn't know that, and next time he calls me for money, I'll say no", and he'll continue showing their ads whether they're paying him or not, because having sponsors is worth more to him (since it provides the appearance of legitimacy) than it is to them.

This is like the local hardware store sponsoring a little league team.  Calling the hardware store and telling them that the star player was caught cheating in school does not make them go into damage control mode and have their name removed from the uniforms.


Still, it makes sense if this community is ever going to mature to start making their voice a source of power to the commercial, retail, and services side of the Bitcoin market. If anything, it does them a favor by not getting them involved with a conman.
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September 08, 2011, 11:50:57 AM
You ever consider that perhaps he thinks you guys demanding answers are just not worth any of his time. There are A LOT of egocentric types on this forum...

I am very surprised that there are still people who will defend him after the heaps of evidence of his crimes. If you refuse to consider all of that, or even acknowledge it, then it seems you may be the one who needs to deal with egocentricity.

It is beyond the stage where we need any more "answers" from him.  
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September 08, 2011, 11:45:27 AM
You guys gotta understand that this isn't like a real show where enough outraged viewers can call the sponsors and have them put pressure on the makers.  None of the advertisers is a big enough name to have their reputation "tarnished" by sponsoring a con man's internet show, and even if they were, the viewership is basically nonexistent, so who's going to see it?  If you call them and tell them about the scams, they'll just think, "oh, I didn't know that, and next time he calls me for money, I'll say no", and he'll continue showing their ads whether they're paying him or not, because having sponsors is worth more to him (since it provides the appearance of legitimacy) than it is to them.

This is like the local hardware store sponsoring a little league team.  Calling the hardware store and telling them that the star player was caught cheating in school does not make them go into damage control mode and have their name removed from the uniforms.
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September 08, 2011, 11:43:51 AM


I thought they served burritos there? Like Chipotle but better?


Nah, just Gyropita Sandwiches and Gyros on Rice.
legendary
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September 08, 2011, 11:43:38 AM

At any rate, it says a lot that people are willing to accept this scammer and conman in their midst because "he does a lot for bitcoin". I'm sure he has and will - at your expense.

Um, what expense? I have not paid to watch his show, and still make my own decisions about products and services he advertises or has interviews about...
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September 08, 2011, 11:42:22 AM
Regardless of what he may have done in the past, his show still provides a great forum to discuss Bitcoin news and for business types to announce their new ideas and products. So I still support him and am glad he's continuing to do the show. Frankly, I think he has done way more for bitcoin and its surrounding businesses than most people here, scammer or not.

His show provides a great forum for him to continue to scam people. What ever good he may have done (and I don't think his pump and dump ways did Bitcoin any good, although some speculators may have made some money ) has gone right out the window. For him to continue to act like some spokesman will continue to harm Bitoin's rep when people find out about his scams and associate that with Bitcoin itself.
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September 08, 2011, 11:37:03 AM

Everyone concerned about the damage Bruce Wagner is doing should voice their concern to the sponsors.


What sponsors? The Meze Grill thing? That's a dinky little take-out joint like a Fish & Chips shop in London or a Currywurstbude in Berlin or a Döner Kebap place.

Contact them anyway. Bruce will continue his conman and sleaze if people don't shut him down now. Although it's going to be hilarious to watch.


But I'm sure Bruce losing his "sponsoring" of a free gyropita is gonna have serious impact on his weight.  Sad I can't bear to see him even more haggard than last week.  Sad A man gots to eat, you know?

I thought they served burritos there? Like Chipotle but better?

At any rate, it says a lot that people are willing to accept this scammer and conman in their midst because "he does a lot for bitcoin". I'm sure he has and will - at your expense.
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September 08, 2011, 11:36:46 AM

Everyone concerned about the damage Bruce Wagner is doing should voice their concern to the sponsors.


What sponsors? The Meze Grill thing? That's a dinky little take-out joint like a Fish & Chips shop in London or a Currywurstbude in Berlin or a Döner Kebap place.

MtGox.com
[email protected]

Bit-pay.com
[email protected]

MezeGrill.com
http://mezegrill.com/contact_us.html

BitBrew.net
http://bitbrew.net/contact
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September 08, 2011, 11:34:53 AM

Everyone concerned about the damage Bruce Wagner is doing should voice their concern to the sponsors.


What sponsors? The Meze Grill thing? That's a dinky little take-out joint like a Fish & Chips shop in London or a Currywurstbude in Berlin or a Döner Kebap place.

Contact them anyway. Bruce will continue his conman and sleaze if people don't shut him down now. Although it's going to be hilarious to watch.


But I'm sure Bruce losing his "sponsoring" of a free gyropita is gonna have serious impact on his weight.  Sad I can't bear to see him even more haggard than last week.  Sad A man gots to eat, you know?
legendary
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September 08, 2011, 11:30:57 AM
Keep things in perspective. Internet detecting is hilarious and fun, but if you're going to contact sponsors of a show that is not even related to Bruce directly (like the other programs there), I'd use proof not opinions. Getting other people hurt based off of a personal dislike of someone is not fair.

Links to court records of the things he got busted for would be actual proof. As I've made clear many times I don't in any way endorse or support the idea of attacking Bruce with baseless accusations.

His absence is proof of his being guilty. Otherwise he would engage his opposition and prove to us he isn't a damn scammer.

You ever consider that perhaps he thinks you guys demanding answers are just not worth any of his time. There are A LOT of egocentric types on this forum...
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September 08, 2011, 11:28:25 AM

Everyone concerned about the damage Bruce Wagner is doing should voice their concern to the sponsors.


What sponsors? The Meze Grill thing? That's a dinky little take-out joint like a Fish & Chips shop in London or a Currywurstbude in Berlin or a Döner Kebap place.

Contact them anyway. Bruce will continue his conman and sleaze if people don't shut him down now. Although it's going to be hilarious to watch.

The fact that he won't answer up to the accusations, I mean the truth about his past, is very telling. And don't give me the bullshit that he did - that was the most limp wristed attempt to explain it all away I've ever seen.
legendary
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September 08, 2011, 11:27:36 AM
Amazingly.. he appears to be continuing with the show:

Quote
http://groups.google.com/group/bitcoinpeople/browse_thread/thread/a5a9ea1839827e9

We just taped a great Bitcoin Show.

It was all about the serious legal issues around Bitcoin.

I gave my guest "final cut" right.   So after he views it tonight, I'm sure
we'll upload it tomorrow.

:-)

Only Love,

Bruce


Can he be unaware of the lack of community support he now has?  Does he just not care???

Regardless of what he may have done in the past, his show still provides a great forum to discuss Bitcoin news and for business types to announce their new ideas and products. So I still support him and am glad he's continuing to do the show. Frankly, I think he has done way more for bitcoin and its surrounding businesses than most people here, scammer or not.
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September 08, 2011, 10:35:57 AM

Everyone concerned about the damage Bruce Wagner is doing should voice their concern to the sponsors.


What sponsors? The Meze Grill thing? That's a dinky little take-out joint like a Fish & Chips shop in London or a Currywurstbude in Berlin or a Döner Kebap place.
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September 08, 2011, 10:28:37 AM
He still seems to have all his sponsors.

I'm pretty sure the sponsors are 'network' sponsors, not 'show' sponsors. Check out the other videos from OnlyOneTV to see what I mean.

They should all be contacted with all the evidence of what Bruce actually is, especially if OnlyOneTV is his. If OnlyOneTV isn't, they should be contacted with the evidence of what Bruce actually is and told their sponsors are being notified. Tongue

+1

Everyone concerned about the damage Bruce Wagner is doing should voice their concern to the sponsors.

Does anyone have a list of all the sponsors and contact email etc.

Btw, I don't know if it proves onlyonetv.com is his but brucewagner.com redirects there.
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Merit: 10
September 08, 2011, 06:36:22 AM
I think his absence is from butthurtedness related to stalkers. He's not hip to the internet and highly underestimated the average "13 year old hacker". Consider him like your grandma in a chatroom where someone called her a sagging pussy. What's she bound to do?

1) Tell the person they are wrong for doing it.

2) Try to convince them that it is bad (in her generation)

3) Get flustered and realize she is in over her head

4) Ignore EVERYONE in the room after that

5) Pretend to be away while secretly learning how to talk like these people

6) Come back and call the next person a sagging pussy


Evolution people. Give it a chance.

Actually, my grandmother would say, "It's kind of you to notice, but isn't it disturbing someone your age is into that?" Now you know where I get it from. Smiley
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September 08, 2011, 06:32:17 AM
Maybe he can persuade the judge to pay in bitcoin?

"But... your honour.... it can only... go.... UP UP UP!"

"And a scammer like you can only go... DOWN DOWN DOWN!" *GAVEL SLAM*
sr. member
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Lead Core BitKitty Developer
September 08, 2011, 06:24:40 AM
I truly believe if Bruce was innocent he would engage his opposition to set the record straight and stop dodging issues and saying one thing and doing another.

The guy is practically MIA after the "oh so important bitcoin conference and world expo".

He had to flee to Tokyo, he's losing his NY court case and the judge will be demanding payment of large, large sums of money.

Maybe he can persuade the judge to pay in bitcoin?

"But... your honour.... it can only... go.... UP UP UP!"
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September 08, 2011, 06:20:39 AM
I truly believe if Bruce was innocent he would engage his opposition to set the record straight and stop dodging issues and saying one thing and doing another.

The guy is practically MIA after the "oh so important bitcoin conference and world expo".

He had to flee to Tokyo, he's losing his NY court case and the judge will be demanding payment of large, large sums of money.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
September 08, 2011, 06:19:01 AM
Keep things in perspective. Internet detecting is hilarious and fun, but if you're going to contact sponsors of a show that is not even related to Bruce directly (like the other programs there), I'd use proof not opinions. Getting other people hurt based off of a personal dislike of someone is not fair.

Links to court records of the things he got busted for would be actual proof.

These were posted several hundred times.

I truly believe if Bruce was innocent he would engage his opposition to set the record straight and stop dodging issues and saying one thing and doing another.

The guy is practically MIA after the "oh so important bitcoin conference and world expo".
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Merit: 10
September 08, 2011, 06:18:33 AM
Links to court records of the things he got busted for would be actual proof.

These were posted several hundred times.

Yes, but since, for example, Meze Grill probably doesn't read the forum (and Bruce sure wouldn't point them at the place exposing him!) someone who is near them might want to, say, show up with a printout...
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