Topic: The Blocksize Debate & Concerns - page 4. (Read 11181 times)

Oh and I forgot the most important tactic: repeating-repeating-repeating ^^^


Every one of those arguments has been refuted, and the Frankys know this, but that doesn't stop them from just regurgitating it as and when they need something to eat.

(Franky and his internal sock-puppets, of course, literally do eat their meals through this behaviour, sometimes he puts in >24 hour shifts when the overtime is available lol)

summary of mindsets

blockstream: "we need to get to a capacity that competes against Visa, they do thousands of transactions a second but they settle in days, bitcoin needs to do the same but in 10 minutes"
community: "so you want to invent LN which settles every.. umm...week, month, never? hmmmm"

blockstream: "we need to fix malleability so people can trust zero confirms"
community: "so you invent RBF to make zero confirm untrustable again"

blockstream: "hardforks are bad because everyone has to move over on day 0"
community: "some people already run implementations with higher limits. after all its a 0byte->Xmb rule change, not a exceed 1mb+ at all costs rule. so people can run, test, bugfix the higher limit implementations even now, giving plenty of time. also softforks require pools to upgrade too before it activates. so its literally the same boat.."

blockstream: "we dont want to dilute the node count with bigger blocks"
community: "segwit also increases the data for nodes. infact there is evidence of 2.8mb blocks.. not only that but segwit introduces pruned no witness mode which will definitely dilute the node count"

blockstream: "a hard fork wants to be 8gb blocks next year, run everyone the world will end if that is allowed"
community: "2mb is an acceptable amount of data and it took alot of 2015 for lots of people to drown out the doomsdays to find a number the majority were happy with. and it will grow NATURALLY as technology and ability grows(slowly). there is no end of days meteor incoming in the next year"

blockstream: "anything not blockstream is an altcoin"
community: "anything connecting to the network of the bitcoin genesis block and 7 years of bitcoin data is not an altcoin"

Totally appropriate response to insidious lying manipulative sociopaths that won't let it go. Again: die you piece of shit

OP, Mods...

(franky I would be very pleased if you dont respond to the goading above. it belittles you. imo)


v From below v, for posterity,

Oh do tell us about your high-brow adult arguments about how the txdata blocksize should start doubling til Bitcoin reaches oblivion. I think people can decide whether I'm being fiercely defensive of my BTC assets and the code protecting them, or, what was it you said? Oh, "low intellect one-liners" appears to be your magic bullet criticism lol.


The "Adult" tactics of the BigBlockers include:

• Constant straw-man derailing of irrefutable points
• Using misleading or bizarre brand names/marketing expressions for technologies that either contradict the evoked psychology ("Classic"), or don't work as advertised ("xthin")
• "Weirdo" character accounts, where the (assumed) personality/beliefs/avatar/sig etc are designed to mock or malign Bitcoin supporters
• Fabricated statistical graphics, designed to suggest the existence of events that have never taken place
• Constant lying and fabrications about Bitcoin supporters to suggest they have conflicts of interest
• Constant lying and fabrications about Bitcoin developers to suggest they have conflicts of interest
• Abusing the forum trust system to malign Bitcoin supporters
• Claiming that the entire blocksize debate was started by the Bitcoin supporters

I could go on. But you're the real grown ups, right? Yeah, the grown-ups that use every nasty little trick in the book to get your own way. Die you fucking scumbags

Great, op sounds fair and open minded, is open to criticism and wants to hear your opposing opinions.
Let's start debating this like civilised adults.  
But..



...if you debate against op's opinion you are a stupid and/or lying?

(ps, "But I hope troll posts or low intellect posts (usually 1 liners) will be removed by forum moderators." - ^ see above post ^)

Maybe if you just repeat yourself 1,000,000 times it will work? Only 999,995 more to go, Frankys. You can do it!

more insults from carlton while he avoids answering things related to the topic.

one more try
in a couple months, will you be saying that Luke Jrs "independent" release of bitcoin v0.13swhf(segwit+hardfork) is a altcoin and he should be thrown to the wolves,
just like you have done with any other implementation that was not pure blockstream?

All I'm hearing is the same repeating-repeating-repeating tactics that you always use, and my god it's dull. Haven't you got any variation in the way you express yourself?

all i hear is whistles in the wind

anyway answer the question
in a couple months, will you be saying that Luke Jrs "independent" release of bitcoin v0.13swhf(segwit+hardfork) is a altcoin and he should be thrown to the wolves,
just like you have done with any other implementation that was not pure blockstream?

So you've been awake... how long exactly? What's your secret? Modafinil? Oh no, you're a meth-head, silly me. No wonder your posts about technical matters sound more psychedelic than The Beatles on vacation at Salvador Dali's place

been here all the time.

but its a kind of shame you like to derail the topic.

anyway answer the question
in a couple months, will you be saying that Luke Jrs "independent" release of bitcoin v0.13swhf(segwit+hardfork) is a altcoin and he should be thrown to the wolves,
just like you have done with any other implementation that was not pure blockstream?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/franky1-65837

Well, how do you like that? It's easy to get rid of all these Frankys, just point out that posting at least once every hour for 24 hours straight is just a little implausible for 1 man on his own



(apologies to RealBitcoin, but this sock-puppet legion account known as Franky1 is an absolute plague on bitcointalk)


Come back Frankys, we miss you all!

Just to get back on that and skip the blahblah.
All good with that?

It is a big deal, but it will need GUI interface to be useable, and it  will mostly run behind the scenes in important projects.

People dont need to understand it, but they will use it, without the need to understand it, if simple GUI comes out.

Yes, you may ask.

you must be a toddler or an old man if sleep is your biggest concern.
but may i ask.
in a couple months will you be saying Luke Jrs release v0.13swhf(segwit+hardfork) is a altcoin and he should be thrown to the wolves?

Out and about? "You" have been awake, posting regularly for over 24 hours now, lol. How do you handle this, multiple power-naps in your deskchair?

even you want to pretend that anything that interacts with bitcoins genesis and block data must be an altcoin if its not part of bitcoins github.
your last post is very clear on that along with your general rhetoric since last year

last year someone coded up an idea.. plopped it on bitcoins github.. they got kicked to the curb and then called an altcoin because they released it independently
this year someone coded up an idea.. plopped it on bitcoins github.. they got kicked to the curb and then called an altcoin because they released it independently
this year someone coded up an idea.. plopped it on bitcoins github.. they got kicked to the curb and then called an altcoin because they released it independently

then miners got together and organized some meetups.. not with random individuals ofcourse but with the main players to try and get some commitments out of them because obvious idea's were being slated as altcoins and corporate takeovers rather than logical discussions about bitcoins next direction..
but even after SEVERAL face to face discussions, hand shakes and signed agreements..
it got backtracked and said they cant even guarantee it.

we both know the only direction blockstream want to take bitcoin, if you really think that after so many attempts already to get a blocksize increase have failed, that suddenly something is going to change.. then you are just trying to poke the bear with the fake belief of bitcoin independence

remember every single big bitcoin player that has done exactly that has been pushed aside

i look forward to you start the buzzword campaign about bitcoinLjr being an altcoin in the next couple months. and finally start calling him a corporate sellout, as always

by the way can i get a timecheck please, sorry i was out and about for a few hours

So how is it that you managed to stay awake from 16:24 GMT on June 27th, all the way to 10:59 GMT today? What sort of superhuman stays up posting multiple times per hour for over 18 hours? I get the feeling that We've Been Franked!!! yet again.



Franky, code your ideas up and make your own coin. Or submit them to the Bitcoin github. If your ideas are sssssso amazing, you'll get everyone supporting you and using your vision for cryptocurrency, right? But I predict you'll never do anything in the real Bitcoin world, let alone attempt to prove your nonsense. You've got one massive mouth and you never take any kind of action, about anything. Do something. Anything.