Topic: The BM @Fox Campaigns stole the escrowed bounty funds. (Read 737 times)

He hasn't been online in almost 2 weeks so I imagine he has tossed the Fox account in the can and now operates under a new name. Might be a good idea for someone to pay attention to addresses if he has posted them and see if they pop up on a new account who is offering manager services.

So first thing first, I would go with the assumption that the below conversation is genuine, do let us know if you think it's fake.



So you did admit your mistake, you gambled with escrow funds, admitted that it was a mistake and that you would pay when the market recovers, but then when shit hit the fan, you decided you should pay yourself and screw everyone else, so you are not just a scammer, you are an entitled scammer.

In a perfect world, since you were the escrow, you were supposed to pay the remaining $6900, in a not-so-perfect world, you should have paid the $1100 to the participants, obviously, in a shity world -- you would do what you did, take your "fees" and an extra $100 on top of that.

The title got me curious: how can a bounty manager steal escrowed funds?
Fox Campaigns is not an "escrow", it was a Newbie at the time. Anyone trusting a Newbie as "escrow" doesn't understand what an escrow is for. It should at least be someone you can trust.

It shows that bounty spammers don't care at all. Spamming Twitter, spamming Telegram, spamming Youtube and spamming no doubt AI-generated "articles" everywhere else. It's amazing this business model has been active since 2017!

Don't confuse the number of people involved with the number of accounts they use

I don't know what's worse: a Newbie spam bounty "campaign manager" who thinks that's worth $1000, or that you think your incompetence to secure payment gives you the reason not to pay the spamming participants while you do pay yourself.

As a bounty manager with a rather [IMO, since I don't have a knowledge of the ongoing rate of a campaign manager, let alone bounty manager for shi...uhh...shiome project] stellar rate, one fifth of the bounty budget, you seemed to be rather mixed up between "promised" and have things actually fulfilled.

You assure your community that you've hold 50% of the budget, twice, [at least, since I didn't dig any further, and perhaps there are other deleted messages], assure them that the payment's secured, and this is based on words of the dev instead of an actual things? You assure your group of something while what actually happened is other thing? What does such action called, again?


I don't know, that's why I'm asking out of pure curiosity. What do you think about it? Is it quite normal for a bounty manager to be paid one-fifth of the total fund allocated for a bounty?


Uhh... ironically, well, two things.

One, technically, you do not pay the hunters with any coin. That's the foundation of this topic. Two, umm, you do aware that we have an evidence, in form of screenshots and video recording, of you [or your "team", Riad, of which "partner" would actually fits better, since you-re a two-manned team] admitting that you tried to "handle" the situation by trading the "project coin" you got to another one, where you can actually pay them with what you have in hand?

Oh, last thing, at times, the best defense is indeed an offense, but offense [on this case and many other cases on this board and scam accusation boards] came in form of providing evidences as counter-accusation, to make an evidence-backed rebuttal to invalidate other side's claims, not being... smug and couldn't-care-less or whatever impression you tried to cast right now.

You say you don't care yet you keep responding. It's obvious you are mad that your account is now tagged, but who's fault is that? You are the 1 who decided to be a manager( probably thinking it would make you rich), but what you are seeing is it is a fucking headache job that pays shit in the long run. You still have to attempt to do the job correctly if you are going to do it.

I have no idea your agreements with your clients, nor do I care, but if you plan to continue this line of work try to do a better job of securing payments for your hunters. That's all anyone is really saying here. Had you come in here and explained without the snarky attitude, things would have went a different way I think. Instead you came in acting like an entitled prick and should have calmed down and thought before responding to users. Grow up is my advice, not that you care.

Who told you I need help bro? I'm saying again, am not writing this to earn your trust, but I'm saying the truth. Keep your green trusts and ranks bro

You'll die before your time! Just remain the king here, do not try things from the outside that you can't handle.

For starters, breaking the rules with multiple posts in a row doesn't help your case.


Pass me your dealer's phone number. That shit he sells you must be awesome.

$1000 for the whole campaign (5 weeks) who said for a week bruh? If you don't charge that then it's not my problem, that's your decision.

Why should we show you our chats with clients?

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Both maximus and partyland scammed us buddy! We even announced it in our group...

Maximus;
https://prnt.sc/jIVVYhizoSkB

Partyland;
https://prnt.sc/i59dMaS2qJJ1

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Fuck you bro! I am not here so I can get a green trust or getting a new campaign, I am here to write what is the truth!

First, you and the OP who are you to chat with my team (Riad) and ask him about the bounty?

Second, I joined the crypto world since 2017 mf! This is not the only place where I can get client or generate income. Keep your fucking ranks and trusts, they worth nothing to me! You are kings here but outside of this forum you're just shit!

Am not forcing you to agree with me, but we were promised half of the budget will be sent to us just after starting the bounty but we never received, and that's why we said it was half escrowed.

Also, is there a fixed fee for bounty managers?

And the last thing, we do not pay hunters with a shit coin of our choice! Be respectful buddy, we pay hunters with the project coins.

Who the hell is Albon?

We got the deal directly from the project owner and we agree payment in SSC, and we never received $1100 before, after the bounty was over and few days passed then he sent it.

You gave the evidence yourself and then you were also caught in lie by holydarkness. You are the type of manager who takes any project that contacts you and worry about your pocket before anyone else.

I'm curious to read the negotiations for the project. Where you are talking money for you and your team and where you are talking about money for the participants. $1000 a week as well?? I don't even charge that amount!!

Ahh well, can of worm and all. This is a very bad mistake indeed, because you make me take a peek into what happened.

First, payment not escrowed. Yes, it's not stated on the bounty thread and on you also confirm that it's not escrowed on your bounty group. But...



So it's been a lie, then? From the beginning of the campaign? The half amount of the reward already being escrowed? Why? You can have it stopped right there and then by your first week... of which, if I understand correctly, was actually the second or third ongoing week, but re-set into first week because the campaign was restarted due to some issue, and the previous week was voided.

Second, your fee, 1,000 USD for a 5 week 8,000 USD budget project? Pure curiosity, this is the ongoing rate for a bounty manager?

Third, why can't you distribute 100 USD to 300 participants? Because you're worried that they'll get cents? It happened before, I mean, this spreadsheet shows that you paid participants in cents,



And not to mention your unilateral decision to trade the amount you received and was supposed to be paid to users with a shit coin of your choosing, of which further decrease the already limited amount you had.

A mistake indeed.

The spreadsheet for the Maximus signature bounty says that I am owed 48.96 USDT worth of tokens.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bRu0VBLRGSZO8Nsa9S78_n3mysPVnZForbVVBIPy2uo/

The address I used for the campaign was 0x079bFF0b1AA5b70F6f4e41C2544EBC76BdE29bd1.
https://ninjastic.space/post/60957378

This address has never received any MXZ or USDT payment.
https://bscscan.com/address/0x079bff0b1aa5b70f6f4e41c2544ebc76bde29bd1#tokentxns

The campaigns you have mentioned are for the most obscure tokens ever, which nobody has ever heard of. The ones that are even listed on CoinMarketCap you have to navigate through more than 50 pages before you find them and they have gone down nearly 100% in value. It seems only scam projects are willing to work with you.

You say that you are paying participants but I have only seen one scam accusation after another here on Bitcointalk and Telegram. Here is another thread where you were previously accused of scamming by somebody whose project also turned out to be a scam.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-alertfox-bounty-is-scam-warning-for-hunters-and-token-owners-5403089

Yes, that's correct. You can check [this] and [this], and as for the escrowed funds with him, you can see [this]. I honestly forgot about this issue a long time ago. Thank you for mentioning my account. It's clear that this scammer BM has been thinking for more than a month about writing these lies, which I have already addressed and exposed in my archived links and in my conversation with him, which I have shared [here].

Here is a screenshot in case he hasn’t time to check the two-minute-long recorded conversation video. > Talkimg

Perhaps the escrowed funds he stole from innocent hunters have run out after this period, and he wants to continue his activities with Green Trust, hoping to fill his pockets with more money that he will get out of thin air... LOL.

Even assuming what you say is true you'd have to be pretty dumb to think that what you say here is going to make us think you're not a fucking scammer.

I don't know what this is about now anyway. Surely he had not been coming to the forum for a while and coming now planning to manage some bounties has seen the reputation.

You're contradicting yourself.


Then why did you get the 1100 USDT upfront?

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According to albon you made an agreement with developer on Telegram to pay the bounty in USDT.  I have not seen those messages, but I suspect others have and can provide proof.

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If the 1100 USDT wasn't bounty escrow and it wasn't intended to pay for your bounty fee, what the hell was it for?  This makes me think that albon's reporting is accurate; an agreement was made to pay in USDT, and you're lying.

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Well, that may be.  It seems like you took it upon yourself to pay yourself, while leaving the bounty hunters out to dry.

Please tell us how we scammed you! If possible attach a proof.

We have managed a lot of bounty campaigns that have paid participants. Some of them are BikPot, Ashib, Spume, DafriBank, PlayTreks, PayRue, XcelPay, Hovr, Pawsome, Qidex, Qie, Brice, all of these paid participants! Why are you lying bro?

Show your evidence that we scammed you.

This is a very bad mistake my brother!

1. Shine scan bounty campaign was not escrowed.
2. We agreed payment in SSC token and not USDT.
3. After the bounty was over, the project owner said they can't pay in token anymore, so they wanted to pay in USDT but they paid only $1100 and not $8000. Our bounty management fee is $1000, and Shine scan never paid our fee, so we used the amount received as our fee! And we can't distribute $100 USDT to more than 300 participants.
4. UNTIL NOW, still Shine scan never paid the remained amount!

I wonder why you gave us a red flag? The project owner he is the one who never paid the bounty pool as we agreed, he paid only $1100 and our fee is $1000, so it's like he paid only $100. We even allowed our participants to ask directly in the SSC community about the reward pool.

This is a mistake, we are not scam.

Oh!

That is not good Mr @Riad_FoxTeam. I did not know that this guy and Foxcampaigns are the same people on the forum. I admit that I and Riad worked on a cryptocurrency project in the same team where he was working for a long time and I worked for two months maybe. But then the project owner stopped responding and did not pay the salaries. So, I left their project but I remember that sometimes I had a chat with him on Discord.

I just came to know that Riad FoxTeam is Fox Campaigns on the forum. Glad to know that I did not make any transactions with this guy during those two months. Flag supported.

I was scammed by them when I was low ranking and still participating in bounties. I hadn't been active in the forum in a while and joined whatever was available. I don’t think they’ve ever paid out for any campaign they managed. Every token they’ve ever represented looks shady as hell and dies in a few months.