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Topic: The BM @Fox Campaigns stole the escrowed bounty funds. - page 2. (Read 737 times)

legendary
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It's astounding that in this day and age the shitcoin bounties are still that popular.  I don't venture into those parts of the forum either, and I too was surprised by the number of participants.  I guess there will always be newbies with get-rich-quick dreams, and also scammers to take advantage of them.

I won't derail this thread any further with comments on the state of bounties except to say that I had thought they were long dead, seeing as the ICO boom went bust years ago--but I've had signatures and avatars on ignore for as long as I can remember, so I haven't exactly been noticing who's been advertising what.  Looking at this Shinescan bounty, I'm actually glad it doesn't incentivize its participants to make posts on the forum as so many other bounties have done.

They can spam Youtube, telegram, and Twitter until the servers melt down for all I care, as long as they don't have to drop endless shitposts on bitcointalk.  Hopefully that's the structure of whatever bounties remain.
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What happened:: I have received numerous complaints about Fox Campaigns

Not that it really matters much since this a throw away account, but I would encourage one of the bounty participants to submit a type 2 flag.

Obviously the copper membership fee is marginal compared to what he scammed, so it's not likely to mean much in the long run.

Wow, just look at all those applicants with tons of posts and no merits whatsoever.  I'd been wondering if bounties were still a thing here (and yet was too lazy to check if the section for them still existed), so I guess that answers my question.

It's astounding that in this day and age the shitcoin bounties are still that popular.  I don't venture into those parts of the forum either, and I too was surprised by the number of participants.  I guess there will always be newbies with get-rich-quick dreams, and also scammers to take advantage of them.
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Wow, just look at all those applicants with tons of posts and no merits whatsoever.  I'd been wondering if bounties were still a thing here (and yet was too lazy to check if the section for them still existed), so I guess that answers my question.  

The way I see it we should do what is right regardless that account is a throwaway one or not, but I already see you support the flag.

Normally I'd say it's a waste of time creating a flag or even tagging a throwaway account, but in this case I agree with you.  Who knows if this one would pop up again maybe a year from now--and if it did and there wasn't a warning on it, well, that's an invitation for further shenanigans.  Feels like late 2017, doesn't it?

Edit: Tagged and flagged.  Is this guy trying to somehow get a free ride off of Foxpup's reputation by any chance?  I don't like the fox theme in his username or the fox icons he uses, and it seems suspicious.
legendary
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Isn't the meaning for escrow is a reputable person who have solid financial background and trustworthy in a community? This user Fox Campaigns is a brand new copper member, I do not see he have any reputation at all. How can it be as escrow?
This is really ironic as there are many reputable BMs and trustworthy escrow service providers here.

I agree with lovesmayfamilis and YOSHIE regarding what they said about the owners of these companies. They may not have any background about the forum, the ranking system, and the trust, and their intention might be to employ these bounty managers because they accept any wages or projects, whether they are Rugs or fake projects. Ultimately, the bounty hunters are the victims, along with the investors who this harmful marketing might deceive. In addition, even if this BM is distributed to the participants, I strongly believe that he will manipulate the spreadsheets and hunters' stakes, introducing multiple accounts to cheat in the campaigns.

The group can be reported to telegram. If enough people report it, it should get taken down
This is a good idea. Even if these affected bounty hunters leave the group and refrain from working on future bounties he manage, the group owner will be left alone with the fake accounts that joined the group.
legendary
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What happened:: I have received numerous complaints about Fox Campaigns, the bounty manager who managed the 5-week Shinescan Coin bounty. The USDT, which this bounty manager escrowed from the project team, was supposed to be distributed to the participants one/two weeks after the campaign ended, which was after October 14th.
Isn't the meaning for escrow is a reputable person who have solid financial background and trustworthy in a community? This user Fox Campaigns is a brand new copper member, I do not see he have any reputation at all. How can it be as escrow?
legendary
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I wish bounty hunters would get smart and not join certain managers campaigns, but unfortunately bounties require little effort and people take the risk.
This user in question should have already received payment it run the campaign before starting the thread, the participants will not have been able to prevent this, as someone with dubious intention would keep the payment regardless. I'm not buying the trading story, looks like a ploy to buy some time and clean up their tracks to make a proper exit.

He has also restricted posting in his official Telegram group to prevent participants from claiming their rights.
The group can be reported to telegram. If enough people report it, it should get taken down
legendary
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The BM @Fox Campaigns stole the escrowed bounty funds.
@Fox Campaigns manager, dreamed too high, by using campaign funds to spin in trading, it was a fatal mistake for him, he hoped that the funds he used could double, Unfortunately for him he lost a number of funds that should have been distributed to participants, this will add to the list of greedy and lying campaigns.

The words 'immediately' are a long process, I'm sure the @Fox manager will run away from this problem and the Shinescan Coin campaign bears the risk of @Fox's actions. That's a bad situation for participants. The funds should already be there and waiting to be distributed, In fact, it is exploited by irresponsible individuals.

That's the company's mistake, they sometimes look for managers who are cheap and poor paid, many projects don't want to employ trusted and responsible managers because the pay is high, The choice of a cheap manager is a disaster for campaign participants, a mistake that is often made by many projects, what would it be like to say that the rice has turned into porridge.
legendary
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A manager with a newbie account, even a Copper Member, will he value his account? What will adding a flag or a negative trust give him?

The way I see it we should do what is right regardless that account is a throwaway one or not, but I already see you support the flag.

A neg tag is appropriate so that person isn't hired again, but you're right it won't matter to him as he will just make a new account and do the same thing to some unsuspecting company.

I wish bounty hunters would get smart and not join certain managers campaigns, but unfortunately bounties require little effort and people take the risk.

I think you are right on this. It will probably happen again, but that does not mean that we should stop doing what we should.
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A manager with a newbie account, even a Copper Member, will he value his account? What will adding a flag or a negative trust give him? A person with dirty intentions to benefit from money that does not belong to him is already falling flat on his face. I will even say more that the one who trusted him with these unfortunate 1100 USDT simply threw money down the drain because they did not look closely at people with a good reputation when hiring them as a manager; that is, they also wanted to save money. Well, they got what they deserved. I'm sure that in the case of the growth of those coins that were allegedly bought with the deposited money, the bounty hunters would not have received anything since the fraudulent manager is too greedy.
But no matter what we write here, bounty hunters repeat their mistakes regularly, trusting it is not clear who to lead the bounty; they are not very picky and are ready to "work" for pennies that in the end they will also not see. History is as old as the world; life teaches these people nothing.
A neg tag is appropriate so that person isn't hired again, but you're right it won't matter to him as he will just make a new account and do the same thing to some unsuspecting company.

I wish bounty hunters would get smart and not join certain managers campaigns, but unfortunately bounties require little effort and people take the risk.
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A manager with a newbie account, even a Copper Member, will he value his account? What will adding a flag or a negative trust give him? A person with dirty intentions to benefit from money that does not belong to him is already falling flat on his face. I will even say more that the one who trusted him with these unfortunate 1100 USDT simply threw money down the drain because they did not look closely at people with a good reputation when hiring them as a manager; that is, they also wanted to save money. Well, they got what they deserved. I'm sure that in the case of the growth of those coins that were allegedly bought with the deposited money, the bounty hunters would not have received anything since the fraudulent manager is too greedy.
But no matter what we write here, bounty hunters repeat their mistakes regularly, trusting it is not clear who to lead the bounty; they are not very picky and are ready to "work" for pennies that in the end they will also not see. History is as old as the world; life teaches these people nothing.
legendary
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I'm a bit confused. Looking at the bounty thread, I think the payment will be in SSC and not USDT? But the BM received USDT and unilaterally trade it for aevo tokens [whatever that is] and lost significant value of the escrowed fund? What's the price of SSC right now? I assume they, the SSC token, have dropped very significantly and the BM can still "fulfill" their obligation to pay SSC to their participants?

But... the project itself is also questionable [though it's a bit moot, given they've rug pulled, so it's kinda proven that they're indeed just another trash project] because they send USDT instead of SSC, while the "contract" said the bounty participants will be paid with SSC. I am correct this far?

Yes. Through old messages in the FOX Campaigns group, he received USDT from the project team because the project's currency was facing liquidity issues, and the price of $SSC was very low at that time. So, the BM reached an agreement with the project team to pay the hunters in USDT. It is worth noting that they changed the old project links and everything to Shine Chain [CMC] on Blockchain V2.

That crooked-but-fulfilled obligation aside, BM's decision to take their own decision to trade the fund is definitely warrant a big question of their competence, and I am supporting the flag just for this reason because they're clearly can't be trusted and people will be at risk of losing fund if they interact with them in any form.
Exactly, he should not have acted on his own with the participants' funds as they are certainly not responsible for his loss. Frankly, I do not believe this story, and I am convinced that he stole the money. He launched another airdrop and a new bounty campaign afterward, and if his intention was to compensate the participants, he would have paid them from the fees he received for promoting these new projects.
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I'm a bit confused. Looking at the bounty thread, I think the payment will be in SSC and not USDT? But the BM received USDT and unilaterally trade it for aevo tokens [whatever that is] and lost significant value of the escrowed fund? What's the price of SSC right now? I assume they, the SSC token, have dropped very significantly and the BM can still "fulfill" their obligation to pay SSC to their participants?

That crooked-but-fulfilled obligation aside, BM's decision to take their own decision to trade the fund is definitely warrant a big question of their competence, and I am supporting the flag just for this reason because they're clearly can't be trusted and people will be at risk of losing fund if they interact with them in any form.

But... the project itself is also questionable [though it's a bit moot, given they've rug pulled, so it's kinda proven that they're indeed just another trash project] because they send USDT instead of SSC, while the "contract" said the bounty participants will be paid with SSC. I am correct this far?

Then I assume they expect the BM to buy SSC himself, thus create a sudden surge, of which I assume they'll use the opportunity to dump their reserved token before bounty participants can dump theirs.
legendary
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What happened:: I have received numerous complaints about Fox Campaigns, the bounty manager who managed the 5-week Shinescan Coin bounty. The USDT, which this bounty manager escrowed from the project team, was supposed to be distributed to the participants one/two weeks after the campaign ended, which was after October 14th.

I have already contacted this bounty manager on Telegram, whose username is @Riad_FoxTeam, and he is the leader of the group @foxcampaigns. He informed me that he lost the total amount of 1100 USDT during trading. According to him, he bought Aevo tokens at $3 each, and the token lost 80% of its value, leading to the loss of the funds that were supposed to be distributed to the bounty hunters. I asked him why he did this, as he was supposed to distribute the USDT to the participants without risking it in trading. He said that he and his friend believed they could double the amount. He told me that he would recover the lost amount when the bull run approached soon. I told him that it’s not the participants’ fault to bear the consequences of his recklessness and control over their funds, but he has now stopped responding. I will include the BM chat and the TX hash below.

Bounty Manager Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fox-campaigns-3503908  | FLAG

Reference Link: [🦊BOUNTY🦊] Shinescan Coin - $8,000 in SSC Coins

Amount Scammed: 1100 USDT [This is what was mentioned in his groups HERE + HERE + HERE (It is worth noting that the project he promoted seems to have closed all its accounts, and even their official website is no longer operational, so I cannot now contact the project team to confirm if he received only this amount or if they sent him the full amount).

Proof of Payment:
https://bscscan.com/tx/0xe2fd1dcac61a55cca2263761fd83b3262b657f4af2ea4411e3243c72cec8f287




PM/Chat Logs: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QWSeLkNXONlhhLzL_9xww6StTHvN5Uy9/view?usp=sharing

Additional information: I don’t believe he can recover the escrowed funds lost during trading due to his ignorance. Months have passed, and when participants asked him about the distribution date, he said 'soon.' He has also restricted posting in his official Telegram group to prevent participants from claiming their rights.
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