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sr. member
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October 09, 2018, 04:45:23 AM
#54
I often say that the fund allocation is only around 1-2%, the value is so small and there will be no effect to reduce the price of ICO tokens.
Just imagine how could a 50% reduction from the ICO tokens already listed on the Exchange then blame the bounty hunters of the thousands of people who only get the total of 2%?

I don't think that makes sense, it's still the investors who made the price DUMP because they get a lot of bonuses on Private Sale.
member
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September 20, 2018, 01:37:52 AM
#53
there are so many scam projects right now ... they seem to have a very good project. but after they get investors and are not responsible. they don't care about how people help him in his project. this is what the bounty hunters really complain about
member
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September 19, 2018, 08:46:15 PM
#52
The bounty hunter problem is waiting when the coins will be distributed, how much the value will be or if it is going to have a value. Worse is if the coins will be distributed after a year and no value at all.
full member
Activity: 532
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September 19, 2018, 08:41:30 PM
#51
bounty hunters have no problem but the investors blaming them for dumping the coins. but the price still depends on the project if it can gain support. if it have demands the price won't drop but instead it will increase. bounty hunters have the right to sell their coins if the investors or ICO team don't want them to sell their coins or own them better don't do bounty campaign.
newbie
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September 19, 2018, 08:08:32 PM
#50
Most of the chsllenges that bounty hunter face is not to be blamed on anyone else but themselves. truth is because of greed and incompetence, a lot of them fail to carry out taks dutifully, and that in turn costs them their bounty rewards. Some are really very lazy towards completing tasks, for some, it is because they have more than one bounty program they signed up for at a time.
newbie
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September 13, 2018, 08:32:48 AM
#49
The number of bounty hunters is increasing, so the number of people participating in the bonus campaign will increase, so the number of tokens we receive from each campaign is small. So I'm no longer involved in the Bounty campaign
It's not just about hunters, but in general because of the market. if on a bull trend you got coins at an ISO price of $ 500 then they sold them at that price and higher. and now you get $ 500 and on the stock exchange you sell at the best for $ 50. hunters a lot yes, but not much do the content
newbie
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September 13, 2018, 01:44:03 AM
#48
Been viewing multiple threads on why coins dip after being listed on exchanges? Most of blame that goes towards bounty hunters and how they sell of coins immediately, effectively causing a mass panic, and eventual dump of the coin below ICO prices. But, they aren't entirely to blame, because ICO creators themselves have ultimately created their problems behind dumps.

Since 2017, bounties have become increasing popular, and with that popularity, they will have: more gates, require higher quality posts/accounts and force bounty hunters to perform more and more tasks, taking up more of hunter's time and effort. Most of these bounties also pertain to shitcoin scams, that are usually dead within 1-2 months after the ICO is completed. So there's a high risk pertaining their time being invested vs. payout.

It's in the best interest for bounty hunters to dump their coins immediately, due to high risks and uncertainty behind the teams of each ICO. If a coin can't pay for it's own advertisement campaign out of its pocket, then they are going to pay through the exchanges. You aren't getting free services/promotions, to further an ICO for no cost at all, there's a cost to everything. And, to add to this, if a coin can't cope with the amount of coins given away for free, then it's time to re-think your marketing strategies, not following the rest of the herd to get a bounty campaign going.

In fairness, increasing competition and the volume of coins launching are forcing all ICO's to have bounty and marketing campaigns. There are different and more lucrative ways to market ICO's btw, but they are less used and not realized yet by the majority of ICO's occurring, due to their lack of understanding.

That being said, there's definitely a high influx of new people entering crypto, and profiting from the few legitimate bounties and will dump instantly to reduce risk. This is only natural, as there are a lot of people around the world looking to profit from these types of things, and they support themselves/families on these things.

Crypto is much different now than it was 1 year ago, and certainty 2-5 years ago, in terms of the people who actually believe in the potential behind blockchain, and what some new coins are attempting to achieve. Most people in crypto have little to no passion for what this entire field entails, "cash out quick before your profits go to 0" type mentality.



just fyi: I've never joined a bounty campaign for an ICO



Edit: The points in regarding that bounty hunters don't cause price dumps, is valid. I was addressing the issue why bounty-hunters dump, as they are the ones that often get blamed for dumping (by everyone). Most ICO's get dumped for several other reasons, but, just wanted to explain this particular instance.

I agree. Bounty campaigns often last months. And it's funny to say that those who have spent months working and accepting only a small amount of money. The first problem I think this come from the project itself. Bounty hunters are the people who have the longest time to practice with the project, although more or less they know the project well or not? When they see a bad project they will leave immediately. Eg, I leave InterValue bounty campaign immediately when they are ambiguous in evaluating the work of the bounty hunter. In my opinion, the  coins dip after being listed on exchanges are often due to market-related factors and the project development team, not to the bounty hunter.
sr. member
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September 13, 2018, 01:38:37 AM
#47
I think the dump coin isn't caused by a hounter bounty. because the hounter bounty gets a small number of tokens, the most coins are held by investors, so I don't think this is a serious problem and not a hounter bounty problem.
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September 13, 2018, 01:32:32 AM
#46
Been viewing multiple threads on why coins dip after being listed on exchanges? Most of blame that goes towards bounty hunters and how they sell of coins immediately, effectively causing a mass panic, and eventual dump of the coin below ICO prices. But, they aren't entirely to blame, because ICO creators themselves have ultimately created their problems behind dumps.

Since 2017, bounties have become increasing popular, and with that popularity, they will have: more gates, require higher quality posts/accounts and force bounty hunters to perform more and more tasks, taking up more of hunter's time and effort. Most of these bounties also pertain to shitcoin scams, that are usually dead within 1-2 months after the ICO is completed. So there's a high risk pertaining their time being invested vs. payout.

It's in the best interest for bounty hunters to dump their coins immediately, due to high risks and uncertainty behind the teams of each ICO. If a coin can't pay for it's own advertisement campaign out of its pocket, then they are going to pay through the exchanges. You aren't getting free services/promotions, to further an ICO for no cost at all, there's a cost to everything. And, to add to this, if a coin can't cope with the amount of coins given away for free, then it's time to re-think your marketing strategies, not following the rest of the herd to get a bounty campaign going.

In fairness, increasing competition and the volume of coins launching are forcing all ICO's to have bounty and marketing campaigns. There are different and more lucrative ways to market ICO's btw, but they are less used and not realized yet by the majority of ICO's occurring, due to their lack of understanding.

That being said, there's definitely a high influx of new people entering crypto, and profiting from the few legitimate bounties and will dump instantly to reduce risk. This is only natural, as there are a lot of people around the world looking to profit from these types of things, and they support themselves/families on these things.

Crypto is much different now than it was 1 year ago, and certainty 2-5 years ago, in terms of the people who actually believe in the potential behind blockchain, and what some new coins are attempting to achieve. Most people in crypto have little to no passion for what this entire field entails, "cash out quick before your profits go to 0" type mentality.



just fyi: I've never joined a bounty campaign for an ICO



Edit: The points in regarding that bounty hunters don't cause price dumps, is valid. I was addressing the issue why bounty-hunters dump, as they are the ones that often get blamed for dumping (by everyone). Most ICO's get dumped for several other reasons, but, just wanted to explain this particular instance.
A good post with a lot of valid points, there is bad misconception amongst invertors that bounty hunters are the cause of price dump, the problem start from team, some team are so incompetent. And it reflects on the value of their token.
jr. member
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September 13, 2018, 01:00:32 AM
#45
People dump due to uncertainty, infact i have experienced this so many times, but the truth remains that if a project is well managed and supported, no matter the dump the coins will still pick up certainly.
Currently participating in bounty campaigns is no longer a good income for the bounty hunter because there are too many scam projects. I think the participants should have a new direction for themselves to continue to participate in this market.

your right ihave bounty last there they are legit but now they are turning scam. so many project also in bounty is going dead its so sad for me
newbie
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September 13, 2018, 12:43:52 AM
#44
Then what really happens if the ICO price becomes not in accordance with what has been determined by the project itself,
other than the information above?
member
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September 13, 2018, 12:43:47 AM
#43
Many trouble faced by bounty campaign participants, from less token or coin reward giving by bounty manager campaign until receiving coin and token do not have value because the ico owner is not seriously for listing their coin on the market.
member
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September 13, 2018, 12:37:20 AM
#42
I'm a Bounty hunter and I agree with your statement.
Differently by others I study the project and I partecipate only if I like it.
Generally I hold tokens because I like the project.
This is not the vision of 90% of people partecipating, a lot of them come from Countries where you can live 1 week with 5 dollars... you can justify the consequently dump...
sr. member
Activity: 658
Merit: 250
September 13, 2018, 12:32:48 AM
#41
I think not all bounty hunter are dumper, just as mentioned in the first post that dumping coin isn't fully caused by bounty hunter.
I, myself a bounty hunter and I choose to keep my reward from bounties and wait until the price is good, and i usually just cash out my coins as much as what i need. and keep the rest on my wallet.
newbie
Activity: 126
Merit: 0
September 12, 2018, 11:36:57 PM
#40
Been viewing multiple threads on why coins dip after being listed on exchanges? Most of blame that goes towards bounty hunters and how they sell of coins immediately, effectively causing a mass panic, and eventual dump of the coin below ICO prices. But, they aren't entirely to blame, because ICO creators themselves have ultimately created their problems behind dumps.

Since 2017, bounties have become increasing popular, and with that popularity, they will have: more gates, require higher quality posts/accounts and force bounty hunters to perform more and more tasks, taking up more of hunter's time and effort. Most of these bounties also pertain to shitcoin scams, that are usually dead within 1-2 months after the ICO is completed. So there's a high risk pertaining their time being invested vs. payout.

It's in the best interest for bounty hunters to dump their coins immediately, due to high risks and uncertainty behind the teams of each ICO. If a coin can't pay for it's own advertisement campaign out of its pocket, then they are going to pay through the exchanges. You aren't getting free services/promotions, to further an ICO for no cost at all, there's a cost to everything. And, to add to this, if a coin can't cope with the amount of coins given away for free, then it's time to re-think your marketing strategies, not following the rest of the herd to get a bounty campaign going.

In fairness, increasing competition and the volume of coins launching are forcing all ICO's to have bounty and marketing campaigns. There are different and more lucrative ways to market ICO's btw, but they are less used and not realized yet by the majority of ICO's occurring, due to their lack of understanding.

That being said, there's definitely a high influx of new people entering crypto, and profiting from the few legitimate bounties and will dump instantly to reduce risk. This is only natural, as there are a lot of people around the world looking to profit from these types of things, and they support themselves/families on these things.

Crypto is much different now than it was 1 year ago, and certainty 2-5 years ago, in terms of the people who actually believe in the potential behind blockchain, and what some new coins are attempting to achieve. Most people in crypto have little to no passion for what this entire field entails, "cash out quick before your profits go to 0" type mentality.



just fyi: I've never joined a bounty campaign for an ICO



Edit: The points in regarding that bounty hunters don't cause price dumps, is valid. I was addressing the issue why bounty-hunters dump, as they are the ones that often get blamed for dumping (by everyone). Most ICO's get dumped for several other reasons, but, just wanted to explain this particular instance.

the biggest reason that bounty hunter is a problem is because of the low penalty for death. It's easy enough to kill a bounty hunter when they attack you. However, they most likely only lose 450 gold worth of gear each death. This means that they can attack you 11 times before it's no longer worth it to keep trying. If the bountied player gets killed, they lose an entire prot set, their bounty, and their streak. It shouldn't be that hard to win a fight against someone 11 times in a row. But if they're decent at PvP, they can easily win one of those fights if they steal your kills or attack you without any healing. They could also bring friends to make it even worse.
sr. member
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September 12, 2018, 04:52:00 AM
#39


In my view though bounty hunters can partly be one of the many reasons for the dump we have to remember that only an average of around 2% are allocated for bounty hunters so around 98% of the coins or tokens are owned by the investors and the people behind the project. And there is now a common trend that bounty hunters will only receive their share weeks after the project landed in exchanges...in fact in my experience the fist week's dump has no bounty hunters' involvement. The dump can be because investors are expecting that the value will really decrease after they are introduced in exchanges so they sell their holdings at a profit and buy the same later...if the situation is already favorable. The full blame is not actually on bounty hunters but the people behind the project because in many cases there is no product yet and the platform has still to be made...certainly there is no real value yet. I am afraid that soon only a few investors will be trusting a project introduced via the ICO platform because nobody in his right mind will love to experience a decrease in one's investment...
jr. member
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Merit: 1
September 12, 2018, 04:42:12 AM
#38
Bounty hanters special airdrop hunters is anxious to quickly sell their coins and transfer them to fiat money and rejoice their 2-3 dollars and will happy but they kills all prices and pushes price falling, they do not care about the future of the project, just to sell and whether that will be.Need rules that bounty can sell in 1-2 month after ico end.
jr. member
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September 12, 2018, 04:42:01 AM
#37
For the bounty hunter - it's his earnings, so very often they sell their coins, even at a very low price to get paid for their work . You can't blame them for that. After all, at least this is a good opportunity for investors to buy a coin at a lower price
sr. member
Activity: 770
Merit: 250
September 12, 2018, 04:37:24 AM
#36
currently the main problem most likely the existence of scam that is quite a lot in the ICO and it's not a good thing. This time it will be something bad for crypto and even in some time in the future than some time ago, even though it is so still there is also good potential who have the ICO and the way it is which is decent to be sought and followed.
newbie
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Merit: 0
September 12, 2018, 04:12:38 AM
#35
exactly and bounty campaigns have begun to scam out here...
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