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The only way to get people to stop worrying and shying away from Bitcoin, is to banish the volatility aspet of it, naturally.

I put emphasis on the word "naturally" because you cannot force a monetary process to establish itself in a few short years. The price and users must gradually reach an inflection point on their own.

It is similar to implementing the Euro as the official European currency. By no means were the governments rushed to scrap their central bank currencies, they were give ample time (about a decade or two IIRC) to phase it in, in stages.

So Bitcoin, and anything that wants to follow it in market capitalization, must be introduced to the public in phases, which could take a very long time.

The rest of the altcoins that do not stabilize can disappear (e.g. Solana), I have no pity for them as they only serve to give larger cryptocurrencies (and crypto in general) a bad name in the news.

The only way volatility would "disappear" is if people began using Bitcoin regardless of its value in Fiat terms. That would mean ditching the "Fiat Standard" in favor of the "Bitcoin Standard". But this is very unlikely to happen since governments and central banks still have the leading edge over the global economy. As long as Fiat exists, Bitcoin won't be able to fulfill its purpose as a currency for cross-border payments. It's only useful as a store of value.

If you really want stability, then stablecoins or cash are your only options. I hope someday Bitcoin becomes the global unit of account in order to truly decentralize the world. Just my thoughts Grin
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As long as Bitcoin exist, the price will keep moving up & down which will be a sign of "Life". .. It becomes dead when it stop moving. The goal should be to moderate the volatility while making sure there is continuous increase in demands caused mostly by good developments in Bitcoin space. Besides, the demand factor plus its relatively low supply helps in making it anti-inflationary upholding its principle as a Deflationary Currency. Without this it won't be a good Store of Value as users savings will keep depreciating in value like you see in Fiat currencies.

The goal now is to help it cross $50,000 which it actually deserves, then things will slow down abit unless there are good developments that can increase demand and keep the price going up strongly from there.


* So, Bitcoin stabilizing in the long run should not equal Bitcoin not moving anymore.
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It's time for bitcoin to be more stable and less volatile as it is today
Eliminate volatility - while bitcoin is providing freedom, diversity in most uses/payments/investments… can't eliminate the need for that freedom.  The volatility of Bitcoin is exciting and opens the way for people to escape the oppression and trampling of fiat.  Simply put, you can consider it as an asset, a means of payment, a savings, etc. that is the freedom that bitcoin brings.  So the best bitcoin doesn't need stability
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The only way to get people to stop worrying and shying away from Bitcoin, is to banish the volatility aspet of it, naturally.

A stable bitcoin price would be good for people who are using bitcoins on a daily basis for their business. Paying bills with bitcoins, or receiving bitcoins as a form of payment becomes easier when the price is stable. On other side are investors who are using bitcoins for long term investments, I think they would be less happy about stable prices. Less volatility in the bitcoin market also means lower rising prices. The question is also at which price should bitcoins stop rising or falling, 20k, 60k, 100k USD? All the initial investors probably ask for the highest price possible whereas the investors would want the lowest possible price. As long as there is such a large discrepancy between the valuation of different investor will I not expect a stable price. Most other assets like stocks or commodities tend to fluctuate heavily, it's part of the game
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It's time for bitcoin to be more stable and less volatile as it is today, I hope that the price rises and falls no more than 5% per day, this can happen if the bitcoin marketcap can reach at least 1000x of the current marketcap.
Yes, the time is very near for people to experience stable pumping of Bitcoin because their teams are seriously working to make people to experience bullish season before the end of this year 2022. I don't think, this bearish season will continue next month before bullish market will start for long term traders to smile again in the market, because  the price has increased to $23,000 few days ago.  Showed that other coins are preparing to increase higher for their investors to believe that bearish season is about to over in the market.
It's clear that 23k was a good increase, we reached 21k and around before but 23k hasn't been reached that much until a few days ago, which is a proof that we need about the fact that we could go on about our business and increase the price again.

What people are not realizing is that price of bitcoin will go up eventually either they are in it or not, bitcoin won't wait for you, and when it does go up, some people will be too much behind to realize it. Maybe it wasn't this time, but it could be next time and unless they are there, they will be upset with the result and there isn't a thing they can do about it when it is too late. So either get in now, or just don't get in at all.
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It's time for bitcoin to be more stable and less volatile as it is today, I hope that the price rises and falls no more than 5% per day, this can happen if the bitcoin marketcap can reach at least 1000x of the current marketcap.
I am not sure why the question of volatility is so much in the air when the yearly volatility remains between 10-15%. The concept that Bitcoin is too volatile for mainstream use is a vague exaggeration of a simple thing.

The reason why today bitcoin and crypto is on everyone mouths is the speculation around its price and hence the hype around many altcoins.

Abolishing speculation is absurd to think of and that will drastically reduce the popularity that Bitcoin has gained. I think we are doing well in this regard for now.
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It's time for bitcoin to be more stable and less volatile as it is today, I hope that the price rises and falls no more than 5% per day, this can happen if the bitcoin marketcap can reach at least 1000x of the current marketcap.

Firstly, price fluctuations of around 5% per day are considered pretty big in stock market and are expected to happen only during about 1-2 days each year. So, with such fluctuations you can't actually say that the price has stabilized.

Secondly, I'm wondering where's that 1,000x number coming from? Current Apple's market cap is 2.55T and Bitcoin's market cap is 453.1B. So, if BTC rises just 6 times from today's price its market cap will be higher than that of Apple.  You think it wouldn't be high enough still?
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It's time for bitcoin to be more stable and less volatile as it is today, I hope that the price rises and falls no more than 5% per day, this can happen if the bitcoin marketcap can reach at least 1000x of the current marketcap.

Yes, the time is very near for people to experience stable pumping of Bitcoin because their teams are seriously working to make people to experience bullish season before the end of this year 2022. I don't think, this bearish season will continue next month before bullish market will start for long term traders to smile again in the market, because  the price has increased to $23,000 few days ago.  Showed that other coins are preparing to increase higher for their investors to believe that bearish season is about to over in the market.
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Everything is simple here and the point of view on the question depends on what purposes a person wants to use bitcoin for. If a person is doing this for quick enrichment and speculation, then it is naturally in his interests that the asset is sufficiently volatile and such a player is already prepared in advance for the consequences that follow from the strong volatility of the asset. It is quite another matter when a person invests in bitcoin in order to save his savings from inflation, then naturally a strong volatility is not necessary for such a person and, on the contrary, he would like more predictability of the exchange rate and for him it is a great test when an asset instead of a stable rise on the contrary loses in price. From its very appearance and at this point in time, bitcoin is a very volatile asset and the fact that bitcoin is not secured by anything clearly suggests this, so if the investor is not ready for this, it is better to find other more reliable areas for investment that are more adapted for this. However, I still think that in the long term bitcoin will still grow in value and long-term investments will still justify themselves, just do not panic and be patient in such turbulent times of asset value decline.
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And when btc finally stabilizes people will then wishes it to fluctuate because how can they be able to buy cheap and how can they be able to earn massively? That's always their mentality so better if we will just ignore them.

We don't need them here and even if most of them are gone, there's still a lot of btc supporters out there and there will always be new people that will enter on this space. Solana and other top alts aren't the one that gave btc a bad name but it was those scam coins. It's also the fault of those who invest on them. Once those people get scammed, this will then create a headline and those who don't have a knowledge in crypto will think that all here are scam including the BTC.

Bitcoin's volatility is the reason why most investors gain profit from it. We will not able to take advantage of its volatility if it will be stabilized. Those who are complaining about its volatility are those who have weak hands. They aren't smart enough to the changes in the price of Bitcoin. I wonder why others are having a hard time dealing with it wherein fact, that's an opportunity for us to buy at a low price and sell at a high and profitable value.
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It's time for bitcoin to be more stable and less volatile as it is today, I hope that the price rises and falls no more than 5% per day, this can happen if the bitcoin marketcap can reach at least 1000x of the current marketcap.
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Well, most of the early coiners and hardcore Bitcoiners wants Bitcoin to be adopted as a currency, but the high volatility has made it more attractive to speculators and they are giving fuel to the volatility in the price. People in the community should actively go out there and demand that retailers and shops start to accept Bitcoin as a payment option.

The same people should also use their votes to vote for a government that will accept Bitcoin as a currency and not just as a Commodity. Once this are accomplished... mass adoption will take place and volatility will stabilize.  Wink

No, please don't do that. You will only turn them against Bitcoin with such actions. We should not demand anything from anyone, imo, except maybe from media. If we know someone with a large audience, if we are like friends, I mean, then we can demand from them to tell people the truth, to educate people regarding BTC and its potential. Retailers will make their own conclusions. We can't force them with our demanding to accept BTC.
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Well, most of the early coiners and hardcore Bitcoiners wants Bitcoin to be adopted as a currency, but the high volatility has made it more attractive to speculators and they are giving fuel to the volatility in the price. People in the community should actively go out there and demand that retailers and shops start to accept Bitcoin as a payment option.

The same people should also use their votes to vote for a government that will accept Bitcoin as a currency and not just as a Commodity. Once this are accomplished... mass adoption will take place and volatility will stabilize.  Wink
What I see is that people welcome Bitcoin, not in a form of currency that can be used daily but they welcomed it most as an investment that they think it helps them to become rich. Because if only they know that they can't make a trade and make money for this, Bitcoin won't be known and famous to the people. The idea has come to the point that Bitcoin become a long-term investment, they sometimes used it as a currency (options) but naturally, in their mind is to make use of this for investment purposes.
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The only way to get people to stop worrying and shying away from Bitcoin, is to banish the volatility aspet of it, naturally.
If we banish the volatility, people will stop investing in Bitcoin.
There is no difference between stable coins and Bitcoin if it has no volatility aspect. Almost all people are interested to hold/have Bitcoin because it has big volatility. Big volatility means a chance to gain huge profits. Without volatility, I suspect people won't be interested anymore in Bitcoin.

Don't forget that only a few people use Bitcoin as a currency, most people use it for investment purposes. Banishing the volatility kills investors' interest, which means killing the future of Bitcoin.

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Bitcoin price can't be stable even it's already 10-50 years later since it's decentralized and no one limiting the trading activity on an exchanges. If Bitcoin price will become stable like stable coin, I would sell my coins before it's happen since it's not a Bitcoin anymore. Make Bitcoin as a stable coin is obviously the protocol are different, it's a Bitcoin fork to be honest.

I don't think if Bitcoin price already hit $500,000 , $1,000,000 or higher, we would see the price will be stable.
Its decentralized and there's no such thing about monopolizing into its overall supply and we know on how it well circulated into the entire community even though partitions might not really be on equal which isnt surprising because billionaire/institutions/organizations would really be always have the edge on acquiring more compared into those average joes.
Stability of price cant really be possible because its been common traded and the price is always moving every second thats why its cant really be possible for it to be stabilized.
If ever it does happen or possible then we wont able to see bitcoins popularity on what we are seeing today which it wont really be the same.
People love to play moving prices because this is where we do make out profits neither in short term or long term.
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Well, most of the early coiners and hardcore Bitcoiners wants Bitcoin to be adopted as a currency, but the high volatility has made it more attractive to speculators and they are giving fuel to the volatility in the price. People in the community should actively go out there and demand that retailers and shops start to accept Bitcoin as a payment option.

The same people should also use their votes to vote for a government that will accept Bitcoin as a currency and not just as a Commodity. Once this are accomplished... mass adoption will take place and volatility will stabilize.  Wink
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The only way to get people to stop worrying and shying away from Bitcoin, is to banish the volatility aspet of it, naturally.

I put emphasis on the word "naturally" because you cannot force a monetary process to establish itself in a few short years. The price and users must gradually reach an inflection point on their own.

It is similar to implementing the Euro as the official European currency. By no means were the governments rushed to scrap their central bank currencies, they were give ample time (about a decade or two IIRC) to phase it in, in stages.

So Bitcoin, and anything that wants to follow it in market capitalization, must be introduced to the public in phases, which could take a very long time.

The rest of the altcoins that do not stabilize can disappear (e.g. Solana), I have no pity for them as they only serve to give larger cryptocurrencies (and crypto in general) a bad name in the news.


Yes that's right.  The main question is at what price will the price of bitcoin stabilize? 

$100,000?

$500,000? 

$2,000,000? 

The answer to this question, in my opinion, depends on what Bitcoin really is.  Some experts believe that Bitcoin is digital gold.  In this case, its capitalization should be equal to the capitalization of gold, and the price of 1 bitcoin should reach approximately $500,000. 

Other experts believe that Bitcoin is the future world reserve currency.  In this case, we will see Bitcoin at a price of $2,000,000 and above.
If bitcoin price stabilizes, how will this fit into a deflationary pattern? Inflation will always exist. If you fix the price of bitcoin, then the purchasing power of itwill fall. The more the more time passes.

Gold or reserve currencies don't have a stabilized price either. Their rate against other currencies and each other also fluctuates. And with inflation, their purchasing power is also changing, so the prices of gold and reserve currencies are definitely not stable. So why should the price at bitcoin stabilize at any one level? It seems to me that this will never happen.
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Bitcoin price can't be stable even it's already 10-50 years later since it's decentralized and no one limiting the trading activity on an exchanges. If Bitcoin price will become stable like stable coin, I would sell my coins before it's happen since it's not a Bitcoin anymore. Make Bitcoin as a stable coin is obviously the protocol are different, it's a Bitcoin fork to be honest.

I don't think if Bitcoin price already hit $500,000 , $1,000,000 or higher, we would see the price will be stable.
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I think so, if Bitcoin can be more stable it will make anyone not worried to make Bitcoin as an investment, I hope what happens with gold fluctuations can occur in Bitcoin, now is the time to wait at least 3 years and hope that the marketcap can reach at least 10x from now .
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Yes that's right.  The main question is at what price will the price of bitcoin stabilize? 

$100,000?

$500,000? 

$2,000,000? 

The answer to this question, in my opinion, depends on what Bitcoin really is.  Some experts believe that Bitcoin is digital gold.  In this case, its capitalization should be equal to the capitalization of gold, and the price of 1 bitcoin should reach approximately $500,000. 

Other experts believe that Bitcoin is the future world reserve currency.  In this case, we will see Bitcoin at a price of $2,000,000 and above.

I like your numbers. Smiley Indeed, do we need BTC to stabilize around $10k? Some people here would say, it's irrelevant, "One Bitcoin equals one Bitcoin", but I personally strongly disagree with such approach. Bitcoin is money, and there is an exchange rate for every pair of currencies, crypto or not. You don't say "One Venezuelan Bolivar equals one Venezuelan Bolivar", right? It's ridiculous.
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