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Topic: The Chili – 30+GH/s BFL based Bitcoin Miner Assembly - page 22. (Read 137986 times)

hero member
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Deamonfox are you running thermal pad or thermal grease?

Both... pads on chips AND the compound that was on the block when it arrived. Earlier in this thread others had noted using the TIM with grease on top helped make an even better contact since some 1st gen boards had chips that were not level.
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Deamonfox are you running thermal pad or thermal grease?
legendary
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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
Question about the H60 from Corsair... pump speed can be adjusted through the BIOS or firmware or in Windows when this is plugged into a motherboard for an actual CPU.

Is there something I can add to my batch files that will tell the 3 pin header on the Chili to lower the power so it lowers the pump rate? Others have mentioned this helps increase the hashrate due to the fluid picking up more heat and spending more time in the radiator to dissipate it.
I do not know about the CPU speed ability, to be honest I cheated. My Noctura 92 fan came with a wonderful assortment of cables including one with an in-line resistor to slow the fan down. Works perfectly on the pump line, I use the splitter cable to power the fan at full speed, and the pump at reduced speed.

If you want to buy a resistor, you just need to use the r=e/i answer to find the right size. The question is how many watts does the pump pull? Then watts=i*e (current*voltage), volts is 12, solve for current, then put 2/current in the top equation to get the resistor size in ohms. (if you want to drop the voltage by 2 volts or 20ish%)

C

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Question about the H60 from Corsair... pump speed can be adjusted through the BIOS or firmware or in Windows when this is plugged into a motherboard for an actual CPU.

Is there something I can add to my batch files that will tell the 3 pin header on the Chili to lower the power so it lowers the pump rate? Others have mentioned this helps increase the hashrate due to the fluid picking up more heat and spending more time in the radiator to dissipate it.
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I have a wide range of hardware error rates.. I am wondering if they are related to cooling, luck or random chance...  So before I go tearing down my cards and reseating them how do these numbers sound?

1 card at 3.5% error rate, 7 cards around 8% error rate 2 cards at 10% (and change).

So should I be worried with 10% error rates or is this one of those random chance things?

Thanks in advance.

It is definitely a factor of chip cooling and airflow over the mosfets.

I started with an Accelero II mounted in line like you would on a GPU and the heatsink fins were over the mosfets... I averaged about 8% errors.

I rotated it 90 degrees and an 80mm fan right on top of the mosfets and gained a couple GH/s and down to 5% errors.

I have now moved on to an H60 Corsair water cooler and the 80mm on the mosfets but am now back at 8% errors (i believe due to the fail hardware included in the refurb box that wouldn't mount properly...) I am getting some long bolts and nuts to use a much better backplate tomorrow and expect the change to fix my issue and increase hashes.

UPDATE: Bolts, washers and nuts used to reseat and mount the water block... 33 GH/s and 4.4% HW errors.
hero member
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I have a wide range of hardware error rates.. I am wondering if they are related to cooling, luck or random chance...  So before I go tearing down my cards and reseating them how do these numbers sound?

1 card at 3.5% error rate, 7 cards around 8% error rate 2 cards at 10% (and change).

So should I be worried with 10% error rates or is this one of those random chance things?

Thanks in advance.

No you are good!!

I have one with a 14% error rate and one with a 7%


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I have a wide range of hardware error rates.. I am wondering if they are related to cooling, luck or random chance...  So before I go tearing down my cards and reseating them how do these numbers sound?

1 card at 3.5% error rate, 7 cards around 8% error rate 2 cards at 10% (and change).

So should I be worried with 10% error rates or is this one of those random chance things?

Thanks in advance.
donator
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It's for the children!
Hi there, I have several chili's, One of the new ones I just received is having issues. When its first plugged in the LED's 5,6,7,8 come on and stay on and never go off.

Any suggestions? Thanks in Advance!~

guess you have to be a Sr. member around here to get a response..

Or patient.

Did you try unplugging, waiting 30 seconds and plugging in again? 
full member
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Hi there, I have several chili's, One of the new ones I just received is having issues. When its first plugged in the LED's 5,6,7,8 come on and stay on and never go off.

Any suggestions? Thanks in Advance!~

guess you have to be a Sr. member around here to get a response..
newbie
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Got the Chili + Evo 212 cooler. But I cant seem to make the cooler fit.....did anyone make a Youtube video on how to Mount ? Or pics ?

Lots of posts early in this thread

Edit:-   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3355048

The feet do not work(holes in the board are too small)

Didnt notice the screws didnt fit Sad

What to do to get it running today when in Denmark......
There's a couple mods you can do to use the included hardware and the longer standoffs. Remove the screws from the cross brace and toss a couple #10 nuts (or some other space) on them, then put the spring and retaining clip back on.
http://i39.tinypic.com/315cviv.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/2rcor34.jpg

The less annoying and higher performance method (the backplate is in the better orientation) is to use some M4x50mm screws to hold it in place though.
http://i44.tinypic.com/qn7kzs.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/15xpg1g.jpg

Would like to use the M4x50mm version - but not sure how it will fit. The backplate needs 1 "side" of the screw to be "flat". Are you using a special M4 or am I missing something ?
sr. member
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Bought 2 boards, one works great 34 ghz, but the other board only has LED's 1-4 come on and is unrecognized by cgminer. PM sent with details.

Thank you MR Teal in advance for your assistance.
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The hot air would have been preferable but I have removed plenty of chips this way before so there wasn't much to worry about. The biggest challenge was the large ground plane and my crappy home soldering iron. If I had taken it to work to use the equipment there it would have been much easier but I am on vacation.
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i may just try and replace the ftdi chip
Before doing that, try shorting the center two pins on the unpopulated 0.1" connector labeled PROG. Pin 5 is MCU reset and pin 6 is ground, so it will hold the microcontroller in reset. If it's an MCU issue holding it in reset should cause the device to pop up on your computer as the FTDI chip will be able to connect. If it doesn't show up, it likely is the FTDI.
replacing the FTDI chip fixed it!!!!!!!!
 Grin
You rock. I've replaced a few of those on the BFL devices; bitch in heat.
How did you do it on the Chili? And what is with those chips?
C
It's the first one on a Chili I've heard of failing, but they're actually not that hard to remove. Just heat it with air and pull it off.
I used an X-acto blade to cut the legs off then cleaned the pads off with solder wick and replaced the chip. no hot air gun available.
sr. member
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Just received a Chili today and within minutes of it starting to hash it starts reporting that it is receiving an empty string from the temp sensor and the last Diag LED goes on, its in a 40 degree F room with three fans on it and heat sinks.

Any ideas?

Can I get an RMA?

Just one LED is on, and it just stays on? Was this one you got second hand from someone?
PM the serial number and any other details on the symptoms if you can.

Yes just the one LED stays on
I sent you details and serial number in PM

I'm sure this is the miner I just sold joeventura.  This is a new symptom.  All of my Chilis have performed w/o issue.

I've offered to fully refund joeventura if he is unable to get it working.

I just want to be clear that this is not a case of me dishing off a problem miner.

I am not saying you are doing any such thing.
I have no doubt you are an honorable member of the community.
I have no worries that if I ask for a refund I will get one.





Rats.  I was worried that might be misinterpreted.  I know you don't think that, joeventura.  Wink 

I just wanted to make sure MrTeal and any third party observers didn't get that impression.   
hero member
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Just received a Chili today and within minutes of it starting to hash it starts reporting that it is receiving an empty string from the temp sensor and the last Diag LED goes on, its in a 40 degree F room with three fans on it and heat sinks.

Any ideas?

Can I get an RMA?

Just one LED is on, and it just stays on? Was this one you got second hand from someone?
PM the serial number and any other details on the symptoms if you can.

Yes just the one LED stays on
I sent you details and serial number in PM

I'm sure this is the miner I just sold joeventura.  This is a new symptom.  All of my Chilis have performed w/o issue.

I've offered to fully refund joeventura if he is unable to get it working.

I just want to be clear that this is not a case of me dishing off a problem miner.

I am not saying you are doing any such thing.
I have no doubt you are an honorable member of the community.
I have no worries that if I ask for a refund I will get one.



sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
Just received a Chili today and within minutes of it starting to hash it starts reporting that it is receiving an empty string from the temp sensor and the last Diag LED goes on, its in a 40 degree F room with three fans on it and heat sinks.

Any ideas?

Can I get an RMA?

Just one LED is on, and it just stays on? Was this one you got second hand from someone?
PM the serial number and any other details on the symptoms if you can.

Yes just the one LED stays on
I sent you details and serial number in PM

I'm sure this is the miner I just sold joeventura.  This is a new symptom.  All of my Chilis have performed w/o issue.

I've offered to fully refund joeventura if he is unable to get it working.

I just want to be clear that this is not a case of me dishing off a problem miner.
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 500
Just received a Chili today and within minutes of it starting to hash it starts reporting that it is receiving an empty string from the temp sensor and the last Diag LED goes on, its in a 40 degree F room with three fans on it and heat sinks.

Any ideas?

Can I get an RMA?

Just one LED is on, and it just stays on? Was this one you got second hand from someone?
PM the serial number and any other details on the symptoms if you can.

Yes just the one LED stays on
I sent you details and serial number in PM
donator
Activity: 686
Merit: 519
It's for the children!
Shameless plug?  I'm selling my chilis.
newbie
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My chilis in garage are not working if cold. Yesterday they stopped at 3 am and today same. I rebooted everything and LEDs are blinking well, but my raspberry pi doesn't recognize the devices. They may be gonna recovered Morning as the yesterday case. How are your chilis? Are they okay in -7 Celsius degree?

I found the reason. U25 temperature sensor doesn't work properly under low temperature. I covered it with a small tape and now all chilis are okay.
Out of curiosity, how did you verify that the temperature sensor wasn't working correctly? It is specced to work linearly down to -40C, but I haven't actually tested that.
Before covering U25, chilis stop soon, but now all fine after covering U25 with a thick tape. Blowing directly to U25 in this freezing cold weather (-7 Celsius degree) might be the reason. Let me check more and will report again.
legendary
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i may just try and replace the ftdi chip
Before doing that, try shorting the center two pins on the unpopulated 0.1" connector labeled PROG. Pin 5 is MCU reset and pin 6 is ground, so it will hold the microcontroller in reset. If it's an MCU issue holding it in reset should cause the device to pop up on your computer as the FTDI chip will be able to connect. If it doesn't show up, it likely is the FTDI.
replacing the FTDI chip fixed it!!!!!!!!
 Grin
You rock. I've replaced a few of those on the BFL devices; bitch in heat.

How did you do it on the Chili? And what is with those chips?

C
It's the first one on a Chili I've heard of failing, but they're actually not that hard to remove. Just heat it with air and pull it off.
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