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Topic: The Chili – 30+GH/s BFL based Bitcoin Miner Assembly - page 72. (Read 137978 times)

sr. member
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So for $818 I can get 30 ghs when?  Nobody has mentioned when these will be available.

Try reading the OP.
sr. member
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I'm looking to Buy another 8 Chips from someone in MrTeals Groupbuys.  Paying 2 BTC for 8 Chips

Send a PM please

I'm happy to sell, but not at a loss I'm afraid.

Not to rain on anyone's parade here, but this board will never be profitable with the current pricing.  I almost want to buy one to have a piece of bitcoin history, but I'm not interested in losing money either.

Do the math $56 per chip times 8 = $448, plus $300 for board = $748.  Now factor in the cooling solution and extra psu needs.  That adds ~$70.

So for $818 I can get 30 ghs when?  Nobody has mentioned when these will be available.

Go to http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/ and plug in 30ghs at 180w for $818.  If I start mining immediately I will never hit the black.  I have to assume that if I purchased chips from mmmerlin and waited for assembly I wouldn't get these for another 2 difficulty increases, which are exponentially growing.

Face it mmmerlin, you speculated long ago and are now learning that these chips were a poor investment and are trying to dump it on other people.  Either accept offers for a loss now or wait until you get your boards and hash yourself.  Who knows, maybe BTC will hit $300 and you'll get your coin back.

That was an offer made out of kindness from me to people who were looking to order BFL chips now for delivery in 100 days, so that they could skip the lead-time and get mining sooner. If they're going to pay full price to BFL why should I sell at a loss?!

I'm very much "facing it" as you put it. The reason I am unwilling to sell at a loss because I actually still want these chips, so if others don't buy them I will simply keep the units I ordered, as was the original plan, but I'm not going to subsidise other people's purchase with hardware that I want.

Personally, I don't think that BTC needs to hit $300 for these units to pay for themselves, but I'll leave you to your opinions and the calculations you make with that infallible calculator. But I want to be clear that I'm not trying "dump" my loss on other people, I am offering chips to people who want to buy them, that is all.
newbie
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I'm looking to Buy another 8 Chips from someone in MrTeals Groupbuys.  Paying 2 BTC for 8 Chips

Send a PM please

I'm happy to sell, but not at a loss I'm afraid.

Not to rain on anyone's parade here, but this board will never be profitable with the current pricing.  I almost want to buy one to have a piece of bitcoin history, but I'm not interested in losing money either.

Do the math $56 per chip times 8 = $448, plus $300 for board = $748.  Now factor in the cooling solution and extra psu needs.  That adds ~$70.

So for $818 I can get 30 ghs when?  Nobody has mentioned when these will be available.

Go to http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/ and plug in 30ghs at 180w for $818.  If I start mining immediately I will never hit the black.  I have to assume that if I purchased chips from mmmerlin and waited for assembly I wouldn't get these for another 2 difficulty increases, which are exponentially growing.

Face it mmmerlin, you speculated long ago and are now learning that these chips were a poor investment and are trying to dump it on other people.  Either accept offers for a loss now or wait until you get your boards and hash yourself.  Who knows, maybe BTC will hit $300 and you'll get your coin back.

full member
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Good work!  I wish I had some funds to by up my chip credits, but by the time I get that together, cheaper options will probably be available.  I hope you are considering the same form-factor for other chips (BitFury?).
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I'm sorry, did I read that right? You didn't want to take peoples money before you had the product developed and the supply line secured...what in the heck?! That goes against everything I know to be true about ASIC manufacturers to date. MrTeal sir, you and ChipGeek definately get my hats off for a job well done.

Only wishing I would've had more to invest at the beginning Smiley


I agree 100%  This is going to be a great board to really see what the BFL chips can do w/ all the cooling options and O/C friendly Firmware available.

They have done a great job with this venture.
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1000
Well hello there!
I'm sorry, did I read that right? You didn't want to take peoples money before you had the product developed and the supply line secured...what in the heck?! That goes against everything I know to be true about ASIC manufacturers to date. MrTeal sir, you and ChipGeek definately get my hats off for a job well done.

Only wishing I would've had more to invest at the beginning Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1468
Anyone is interested in chips?  I still have 48.  16 chips for BTC5.5, or BTC16.5 for all 48

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sold-303224

Fully paid. Shipping next week.

Shipping to you next week, or in-hand shipping from you next week?

Got email from Jonathon from BFL, my order will be shipped today  Grin
legendary
Activity: 2702
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Anyone is interested in chips?  I still have 48.  16 chips for BTC5.5, or BTC16.5 for all 48

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sold-303224

Fully paid. Shipping next week.

Shipping to you next week, or in-hand shipping from you next week?

Shipping to me this week.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
Anyone is interested in chips?  I still have 48.  16 chips for BTC5.5, or BTC16.5 for all 48

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sold-303224

Fully paid. Shipping next week.

Shipping to you next week, or in-hand shipping from you next week?
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1468
I'm looking to Buy another 8 Chips from someone in MrTeals Groupbuys.  Paying 2 BTC for 8 Chips

Send a PM please

I have 48 chips for sale, coming in next week.  Can be yours for 16.5, or 5.5 for 16 chips.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
I'm looking to Buy another 8 Chips from someone in MrTeals Groupbuys.  Paying 2 BTC for 8 Chips

Send a PM please

I'm happy to sell, but not at a loss I'm afraid.
full member
Activity: 156
Merit: 100
I'm looking to Buy another 8 Chips from someone in MrTeals Groupbuys.  Paying 2 BTC for 8 Chips

Send a PM please
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
I have been thinking about using PCI cages to mount the boards instead of PC cases.  I could also use rack mounted cases.

These support 6 boards each and should be pretty easy to mount in a mining configuration.  Any comments?

http://www.neutronusa.com/prod.cfm/502627

It looks to me like that wouldn't leave anywhere near enough space for the coolers from the looks of it. Maybe you'd fit ~3 in there if you're lucky, not sure as I don't know the final height. Had you considered that?

I think even with the (much more expensive) GPU coolers you still wouldn't be able to put one in each slot...

I am currently thinking a large block of wood and saw, and just cut a bunch of slots in it. Not too pretty but should work OK I think *shrugs*
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Activity: 71
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I have been thinking about using PCI cages to mount the boards instead of PC cases.  I could also use rack mounted cases.

These support 6 boards each and should be pretty easy to mount in a mining configuration.  Any comments?

http://www.neutronusa.com/prod.cfm/502627
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
I am selling my 4chip slot for 1BTC right now, 1st and 2nd half of the payments paid.
This is hashing power equal to 4 x 4 GH/s = 16 GH/s

https://www.bitmit.net/es/item/63445-16gh-bitcoin-asic-miner-slot-for-1btc

You can PM me if you are interested.

Is mrteal getting these chips you have bought already ? / I'm looking for 4 chips right now
I already have 4 chips paid in full and would like another 4 chips only if they have been paid with mrteal and are getting shipped to mrteal
please let me know

I am selling a lot of chips, and they are being delivered with this batch. If someone else wants to buy (8n + 4) chips from me then I will happily sell you the extra 4, but otherwise I obviously can't split boards down. I will let you know if that happens. GL!
legendary
Activity: 1338
Merit: 1000
good idea i was wondering why my 3 bfl devices only showed the one highest temp on the top part of bfgminer but shows all the temps next to the BFL0 BFL1 BFL2 devices
legendary
Activity: 2730
Merit: 1034
Needs more jiggawatts
Note that I'm struggling with the best way to indicate individual board (and CHIP!) temperatures as I'm reporting an average right now.

In my client's GUI I show the highest of the two temperatures reported by BFL devices. Maybe you should do the same, using the highest value instead of average. This way, if one chip gets very hot that won't be hidden in a slightly higher average.
legendary
Activity: 2730
Merit: 1034
Needs more jiggawatts
Hi DrHaribo, it currently uses the same protocol as BFL and uses the FTDI VCM drivers (or the WinUSB ones for cgminer). We're looking at ways to extend the protocol to allow the extra features / reporting available on the Chili to be exposed through the mining software.

Z-Link isn't yet. I'll let Chip Geek explain that better.

It should probably work with my mining client without modifications then. Thanks for the information. Smiley
full member
Activity: 198
Merit: 100
It says custom code. Does it still use the same protocol over a virtual serial port to be compatible with the same mining clients that support BFL's products?

What about Z-Link, how is that exposed over the protocol?

The protocol is the same as BFL's protocol except for X-link vs. Z-link.

As MrTeal stated, Z-link firmware is not fully functional yet but the plan is for it to be completely invisible to any mining software.  In other words, there is no "@XY" stuff to address a specific board.  To the mining software, it will simply appear as a single mining unit with N x 30GH/s hashing power where N = number of boards.  

Note that I'm struggling with the best way to indicate individual board (and CHIP!) temperatures as I'm reporting an average right now.  It would seem it would be best to extend / modify the protocol to support individual chip temperature reporting.  The other obvious potential problem is:  Will any mining software complain if the processor list in the ZCX command is longer than 16?  Or engines is more than 256?  We can always abandon Z-link if it turns out to be a bad idea.  The incremental cost for the hardware is quite small.

I will follow up with PMs later to keep this thread clean from this topic for now.  (But right now, I have some more code to finish up...  Smiley )
legendary
Activity: 1338
Merit: 1000
I am selling my 4chip slot for 1BTC right now, 1st and 2nd half of the payments paid.
This is hashing power equal to 4 x 4 GH/s = 16 GH/s

https://www.bitmit.net/es/item/63445-16gh-bitcoin-asic-miner-slot-for-1btc

You can PM me if you are interested.

Is mrteal getting these chips you have bought already ? / I'm looking for 4 chips right now
I already have 4 chips paid in full and would like another 4 chips only if they have been paid with mrteal and are getting shipped to mrteal
please let me know
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