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Topic: The Correct Way of Powering Your Risers for your RX 470/480 (Read 5102 times)

newbie
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how is ur setup with 2 psus?


i think u need to have something like  http://www.add2psu.com/

to get the 2 psus to work together.
Yes, it's like that but this isn't what I'm asking for.
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
Use this awesome PCI-E 6 pin powered riser: http://www.ebay.com/itm/131996650201?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Your PSU probably supports more 6-pin GPU power connections than old skool molex 4-pins.

gonna buy one, give it a try .I had one of the version 6's burn up Sad so i need something better from the PSU to the riser . The wire looks like the right wire or what is used to make  Pcie plugs . is that wire 16 weight ?.

Throw the extra SATA adapter cable in the garbage and use direct VGA 6-pin connections from the PSU.  Power all of your risers off of one PSU and the GPUs off another.
member
Activity: 273
Merit: 17
how is ur setup with 2 psus?


i think u need to have something like  http://www.add2psu.com/

to get the 2 psus to work together.
newbie
Activity: 62
Merit: 0
I'm using two PSU's. Is it safe to connect the usb raiser's molex to the second PSU?
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
Use this awesome PCI-E 6 pin powered riser: http://www.ebay.com/itm/131996650201?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Your PSU probably supports more 6-pin GPU power connections than old skool molex 4-pins.

gonna buy one, give it a try .I had one of the version 6's burn up Sad so i need something better from the PSU to the riser . The wire looks like the right wire or what is used to make  Pcie plugs . is that wire 16 weight ?.
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
Use this awesome PCI-E 6 pin powered riser: http://www.ebay.com/itm/131996650201?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Your PSU probably supports more 6-pin GPU power connections than old skool molex 4-pins.
full member
Activity: 237
Merit: 100
Unfortunately the PCIe Slot power is at least 5Amps or so for the 470/480. Some of the 6 pin 480 even use much more than 5 Amps. You can't power too many of them with the daisy chain Molex and especially the SATA connectors. Even the 8 pin 470s draw around 5 Amps from the slot.

If you have the space, best would be to install NO MORE THAN 1 of your 470/480 directly onto the motherboard.

I would avoid using any SATA connectors to power any of the 470/480 GPUs. They draw at least 60 watts and those SATA connectors are generally used for hard drives which draw about 5 watts on average.




I wouldn't use any more than 1 of the Molex connectors to power any 470/480. Usually a PSU has 2 sets of these (6 molex in total) so you can power 2 GPUS from each seperate chain.



The best method would be as follows. Usually most PSUs have 2x 6+2pin on each chain such as follows.



You would plug in one of those to your 470/480 #1 connection and the other would always be unused. Since the length wouldn't reach the next card. So you would buy a PCIe extension cable such as below



Plug in the unused PCIe #2 connector to this extension and splice the other end +12V and GND directly onto your Risers power.



This way you could run any number of high power 480s and overclock them to the max and you would never have any melt since the PCIe has plenty of power and is a higher gauge.



where can i find the pci to molex adapter?
member
Activity: 273
Merit: 17
Hello guys.

At the moment i have 2 mining rigs which i have powered with molex sata adapter, seems to be working, although some of the connections seems to get  abit warm not so u cant touch but u can feel its pretty hot.

Anyhow i  was thinking of getting Cooler Master v1200 platinum for next psu, hence it has 12x PCIe.
So then i was thinking of getting these 6pin usb riser-

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/PCI-e-PCI-Express-Riser-1X_60531491776.html 
 something like these and then i was thinking of getting just a  6 pin extender cable like this.

http://www.maxgaming.se/6-pin/nzxt/6-pin-vga-extension-cable-250mm

then i  should be able to  power the risers and gpus with just the "single" gpu cable right?

Anyhow thanks for intresting thread, alot to read.  Smiley
newbie
Activity: 33
Merit: 0
Is it ok to connect powered risers directly with the molex? I have a 5 non ref RX 470, all with 8 pin connectors.

Yes that is the best way. Although you may not want to connect more than 2 gpus per molex chain. 3 may be okay but I am not certain

For the non ref 470, if it has 8 pin PCIE connector, you can connect up to 3, otherwise, it is safe to just connect 2.
sr. member
Activity: 689
Merit: 253
Is it ok to connect powered risers directly with the molex? I have a 5 non ref RX 470, all with 8 pin connectors.

Yes that is the best way. Although you may not want to connect more than 2 gpus per molex chain. 3 may be okay but I am not certain
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
Is it ok to connect powered risers directly with the molex? I have a 5 non ref RX 470, all with 8 pin connectors.
sr. member
Activity: 689
Merit: 253
I bought some of the 6pin powered risers from holybtc, will try them soon

Unfortunately they are not working for me with 480s. Using these, the gpus show up in device manager but 10 or so seconds after I open my miner (claymore), the program crashes, the drivers crash, or they start mining but with some gpus at 0mhs.

I've tried powering them with only 6pin, only molex, and both 6pin and molex (since they have both connectors). My other risers (old molex powered ribbon risers and new usb powered risers) do not have any of these problems
sr. member
Activity: 689
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I bought some of the 6pin powered risers from holybtc, will try them soon
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1001
aka "whocares"
My friend is running a rig with 4 RX 480 8GB Devil after market cards with the USB 3.0 and he has no issues. This tells me it's the quality of the risers you purchased are junk!

I have over 250 GPU's running and have been mining a long time.  I will be happy to show you a BIG BOX of worthless USB risers.  Every brand, color, manufacturer.  Secondly, If your friend is running some 480's it is probably a new build - give it some time.  Wink

Kilo17 can you please provide a link to Amazon/Newegg/Ebay for the powered risers that you use and stand behind? I have done alot of research and have found quite a few that seems to work, but my mining farm is virtual... Ie it just exsists in my head since my wife thinks "Saving for vacation next summer is more important than your stupid mining hobby"...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I have bought some from eBay etc but they are made differently than the ones I pictured above and are of lesser quality.  Those specifically I get from Padrino here on the forum or from Scott at HolyBitcoin.com (and he was sourcing them from Padrino as well).  Scott is excellent on shipping out in 1 day.  If he shows no or little stock just shoot him a message because he usually has more than is on his site.

I think  the ribbon is 9.5" long - it is plenty long for a 6 GPU rig
sr. member
Activity: 366
Merit: 250
I am really confused... Not sure I understand it so Ill ask if my setup is OK (I know for sure such setups are working for over half a year now without any problems), but you never know...

So I am using such risers:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/media/image/thumbnail/CB107OK_88534_800x800.jpg

So I plug the GPU with 8-pin connector plus plug SATA power cable to this Riser.

Running 5 or 6 GPUs on a rig, mainboard is ASHROCK H81 BTC PRO (this mainboard has also 2 additional power slots - which are plugged in as well).

Is there something wrong with such connection?

sr. member
Activity: 546
Merit: 250
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My friend is running a rig with 4 RX 480 8GB Devil after market cards with the USB 3.0 and he has no issues. This tells me it's the quality of the risers you purchased are junk!

I have over 250 GPU's running and have been mining a long time.  I will be happy to show you a BIG BOX of worthless USB risers.  Every brand, color, manufacturer.  Secondly, If your friend is running some 480's it is probably a new build - give it some time.  Wink

Kilo17 can you please provide a link to Amazon/Newegg/Ebay for the powered risers that you use and stand behind? I have done alot of research and have found quite a few that seems to work, but my mining farm is virtual... Ie it just exsists in my head since my wife thinks "Saving for vacation next summer is more important than your stupid mining hobby"...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0
I am running a 6x480 setup. 5 of them are on powered USB risers. I have 2 on a molex branch. 1 + MB on another molex branch. Then 1x Sata branch, 1x Sata branch. However I am now looking into the powered ribbon risers as advised to get shot of the USBs.

The USB cables are 500mm which just reaches the furthest card. The powered ribbon risers that I am finding are listing their ribbons length at 200mm so I am worried that not all the ribbons will reach all the cards. The obvious solution is to move the cards, which will mean redesigning the mounting cage.

How have you overcome this problem? and what is the layout of your graphics cards to ensure all of them reach the motherboard on these 200mm risers?


*edit add*.

You say the y split 6 pins wont reach two cards: How much spacing have you got between the cards? As my y splits allow a separation gap of ~40mm which, albeit early days, seems sufficient.

Also AFAIK each molex draws 5v, and the branch is rated to 12v. So as long as you don't use more than 2 (why the hell they designed it with three?!) then you will be within the limits +wiggle room. So what is wrong with having more than 1 per molex branch?
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1001
aka "whocares"
My friend is running a rig with 4 RX 480 8GB Devil after market cards with the USB 3.0 and he has no issues. This tells me it's the quality of the risers you purchased are junk!

I have over 250 GPU's running and have been mining a long time.  I will be happy to show you a BIG BOX of worthless USB risers.  Every brand, color, manufacturer.  Secondly, If your friend is running some 480's it is probably a new build - give it some time.  Wink
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
My friend is running a rig with 4 RX 480 8GB Devil after market cards with the USB 3.0 and he has no issues. This tells me it's the quality of the risers you purchased are junk!

must be 8pin~  my rx480 ref is 6pin,  so。。。
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