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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

Perhaps, you can be aware of what and how these whales will respond to the market situation. They are smart enough and for sure they don't want to miss the chance and even let this bear season pass doing nothing. Though they are not vocal and even quiet by now, it was also presumed that they are buying a huge amount of Bitcoin (and some altcoins) in anticipating the upcoming halving.

Let these whales make fun of the current market condition, we are also benefiting from it.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

This is why we have to know the movements of whales, this can be your guide to buy and sell because as we all know, they can really move the market and if you see those trends better to start analyzing and do the necessary action according to that trend. Small investors can still make money here, just be creative and keep on analyzing.

Whale is an imaginary umbrella term used to denote big investors and those who trade in volumes that can influence the market movements. Someone specific it might not be but using that term "know the movement of whales" is a vague one and an incorrect one. You cannot know big market movements before they appear but you can prepare for them. Likewise you can buy at the low price when the market is dropping, hoping that whales will buy and raise the market while selling when it reaches the top.

Dont be fooled by what some users say on the internet, there is always a chance that market might move in opposite direction. Small investors should not get into such talks, they are counter productive, but focus on the long term gain.

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Quote from: crzy on June 30, 2022, 04:49:45 PM

Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

This is why we have to know the movements of whales, this can be your guide to buy and sell because as we all know, they can really move the market and if you see those trends better to start analyzing and do the necessary action according to that trend. Small investors can still make money here, just be creative and keep on analyzing.

now, that's hard. monitoring the movement of whales. you will get headache if you do that. better know your goals in this market and learn how to achieve those goals. because chasing others would only cause you too much stress without accomplishing anything.
much better if you will study valuable projects that you can get involved with. because you don't know the reasons of these whales. some are just jumping with the hype without any basis. and if you got screwed, they won't care.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

This is why we have to know the movements of whales, this can be your guide to buy and sell because as we all know, they can really move the market and if you see those trends better to start analyzing and do the necessary action according to that trend. Small investors can still make money here, just be creative and keep on analyzing.

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Quote from: sklopan on June 25, 2022, 02:57:30 PM

The cryptocurrency market is now quite sensitive and to think that it can "absorb" any difficulties is not very correct, as for me.

No one had stated that it could absorb any sentiments that do happen around even though its believed that outside events or news couldnt typically made out some significant effect anytime on this market and also this isnt only a playground for those whales if we do talk about crypto market because in other markets and investment as well then they do usually love to hang or deal with it which is really very
common for them to do so because whales do love to dive in on whatever things that they do see that they could really make out money or profits thats why having that financial capacity
could really be having that pure advantage which isnt something surprising.

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I think it is potentially a very good time to be a crypto whale. Coins are cheap right now and although the economic recovery make take a while and the war in Ukraine is still going, I suspect the returns will be huge in a years time.

Whales have the fiat reserves to keeping buying during these corrections and that gives them a huge advantage. Personally, I would love to pick up more coins when they’re cheap but I don’t much extra fiat laying around at the moment.

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The cryptocurrency market is now quite sensitive and to think that it can "absorb" any difficulties is not very correct, as for me.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on June 20, 2022, 06:23:02 PM

Agree, day trading isn't as easy as we think, it is for a professional or experienced trader only. Sure, it is not recommended for beginners or people who have a lack knowledge about crypto market. A daytrader needs to know well about candle/charts analysis, he also needs to update any information about the current situation in crypto market and the coins he wants to trade. Someone needs enough experience in trading before trying daytrade.

That's why daytrading has never been really good for me in the last 2 years. I don't have enough time to analyze the market and I don't have a good ability to cross most price charts all the time so investing is a very useful option for me so far over daytrading.

Experience may teach us many things, but of course we just have to have the courage to make decisions. Daytrade in the end is just tough for most people who prefer to play it safe for the long term.

Day trading isnt for everybody because this do really requires sufficient experience and skills on handling out or dealing out with the market on very active manner which is something that do really require that specific

qualities or capabilities of a certain individual.Even if you arent a whale but doesnt mean that you cant get along or ride with the waves whenever there some possible movement of price in the market.
Doesnt matter on what kind of ways or method you would really be doing as long it would be significant and effective on your part or you could make out some profits then better stick
into that particular strategy and trying out to utilize as much as you can.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on June 20, 2022, 06:23:02 PM

Agree, day trading isn't as easy as we think, it is for a professional or experienced trader only. Sure, it is not recommended for beginners or people who have a lack knowledge about crypto market. A daytrader needs to know well about candle/charts analysis, he also needs to update any information about the current situation in crypto market and the coins he wants to trade. Someone needs enough experience in trading before trying daytrade.

That's why daytrading has never been really good for me in the last 2 years. I don't have enough time to analyze the market and I don't have a good ability to cross most price charts all the time so investing is a very useful option for me so far over daytrading.

Experience may teach us many things, but of course we just have to have the courage to make decisions. Daytrade in the end is just tough for most people who prefer to play it safe for the long term.

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Quote from: Viscore on June 25, 2022, 10:43:30 AM

Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

And weak hands usually fall for them. I guess that’s certainly the role of the whales in the market, to create fuds that will threaten the investors and those who are not strong and wise enough will eventually fall on their tricks. That is why it’s not only the funds that should be prepared when we enter the market, but also having positivity in our mindset and strong faith in our investments. Otherwise, whales will definitely take advantage on us every time the market crashes and left us losing in one side.

It is indeed the role of those big whales inside the market, monitoring the condition and throwing money when opportunities are open,

Like what you just said, when there's a collapse, weak holders are the victims of those whales. They are just waiting for fears to conquer

the mindsets of those holders who are unsure on what to do in this kind of situation, end of the day whales will collect and withdraw

huge amount of profits.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

And weak hands usually fall for them. I guess that’s certainly the role of the whales in the market, to create fuds that will threaten the investors and those who are not strong and wise enough will eventually fall on their tricks. That is why it’s not only the funds that should be prepared when we enter the market, but also having positivity in our mindset and strong faith in our investments. Otherwise, whales will definitely take advantage on us every time the market crashes and left us losing in one side.

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That's just how it goes. Whales have more chances to actually trade and profit since they play it big and well, losing money is something natural to them. Even someone who owns a sizeable amount of assets would consider losing as something of the norm. Newbies get eaten simply because they're afraid or don't know the hows and whos, and heck losing is something natural here. The market is a zero-sum game after all.

Besides whales can't cause permanent manipulation, at most it'd last a day or maybe even a few hours at best, and it's not really unfair, that's just how it goes since they have that much of an asset and are capable of doing so. It's just up to each own's skills to actually understand what's happening and move based on it.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

If they can take the crash as an opportunity to make money then what is stopping you from doing the same strategy,you may not have million dollars but the strategy can be same the hundreds can be turned into thousands and just repeat it whenever you got the opportunity and eventually you may become one of them in a decade or so, interesting isn't? Cheesy

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

Weak hands make the present market condition a hot spot for whales, as they are always afraid to witness the market collapsing and that's where big whales start to lure them for their own desires. However, wise investors that have strong hands have also seen this coming and that they would never let theirselves fall for whales. If whales see a big opportunity in this current downtrend, then wise investors have always anticipate this moment too. So its certainly a long awaited moment both for whales and wise investors.

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Who is preventing you to play? The market is open for everyone and anyone can play. Even though we aren't whales but realize what whales are doing now. So we can follow them and take advantage of the dip. But the problem is we become panicky when seeing the red market where whales take entry. The fair is preventing us from making money and we don't have enough patience as well.

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Whales have money saved up aside, it is both liquid, and also things that are in assets which could be liquidated if they wanted to and could make a good profit from it as well. Like for example if you have tens of millions of dollars in just cash sitting then you are not really a proper rich person, the real rich person would have negative on their bank accounts because their money would be working somewhere for them, not sitting.

So, if we are talking about a bear market, they will overleverage their position and get some debt and put it here, because they know that they could pay that back with the income they have anyway, and price would go up faster than the repayment.

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Quote from: Mark301 on June 20, 2022, 04:31:22 AM

Whales simply use it as a playground. Even if there is a crash, you cannot rely on price movements. When there are liquidations for longs and shorts, the market takes a big swing to screw as many people as possible.

Whales know how to play the game of manipulation and that is why we are always seen that when you as ordinary investors invested that is when the price goes down and whenever you sold that is when it will start going up! It is always against you because you don't control the market but the whales does. From Luna and sol I have learned big lesson and if not because sol's stakeholders takes Steps and limits the power of whales we could have seeing it follow the path of Luna

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Quote from: danherbias07 on June 21, 2022, 12:15:42 AM

Indeed they are.
It's nice to have a bag of money today and be the new whale of the dumped market. Every coin now is as cheap as they can get and if you can pick something that you could shake the price then it will be worth the risk of investing.
I don't mind, that's the perks of having a lot of money but that doesn't mean they are in a safe spot. The possibility of being rekt still lingers and you have to make sure that won't happen.

And the first thing to prevent from being rekt is don't invest in any shitcoins, just buy Bitcoin. Shitcoins have a bigger risk of being rekt due to scam project and liquidity manipulation, especially those shitcoins who have price less and far than $1 e.g. $0.0001 don't forget top 10 coins doesn't mean it's always legit coins, I'd say at least 7 coins on top 10 in CMC are scam and centralized.

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Indeed they are.
It's nice to have a bag of money today and be the new whale of the dumped market. Every coin now is as cheap as they can get and if you can pick something that you could shake the price then it will be worth the risk of investing.
I don't mind, that's the perks of having a lot of money but that doesn't mean they are in a safe spot. The possibility of being rekt still lingers and you have to make sure that won't happen.

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Quote from: kamvreto on June 20, 2022, 10:30:23 AM

Day trading is only for those who understand how to do technical analysis, read every candle movement well. The capital required must also be a lot to be able to get a commensurate profit. But for those beginners, day trading will be a bigger risk of loss if not executed properly.

Agree, day trading isn't as easy as we think, it is for a professional or experienced trader only. Sure, it is not recommended for beginners or people who have a lack knowledge about crypto market. A daytrader needs to know well about candle/charts analysis, he also needs to update any information about the current situation in crypto market and the coins he wants to trade. Someone needs enough experience in trading before trying daytrade.

those who are inexperienced are just trying their luck, but it's a fatal mistake to spend their money only on things they don't understand. Even a professional can still experience losses, especially those who have zero experience and do not understand technical analysis and fundamental analysis. In addition to daytrade we can also use scalping techniques which of course will be faster and also require large capital, buy and sell orders will be done quickly when there are some profit differences and are done repeatedly

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