Topic: The curious case of forum member: rby (of the Rubycoin scam) - page 2. (Read 1328 times)

Everything is still assuming. Has anyone here contacted cleanwatercoin? I looked at the cleanwatercoin thread and not a single reply, doesn't anyone care about scams? well, cleanwatercoin is also unclear, maybe it's also a scam.

I think what is being done here is just assuming and fetching the source from a dead source without knowing if the old thread is valid or not. If this scam really happened, in 2014 no one cares about this problem so no one tags or replies in the comments column of the thread?

Maybe I can lie and accuse someone of cheating now, I'm off the forum, and in the future someone will see the thread I created. They believed the accusations and raised the issue again. Anyone know the original case? in 2014? or did people here just look at an old thread and bring up this issue again?

I don't support rby, but I only see assumptions, no clarification from anyone, does anyone dare to testify that the fraud case really happened? and there is no element of business competition? rubicoin and cleanwatercoin are both gone now, the coins are dead, and both are scams

I think only nutildan and stompix were born on this forum when this thread was created
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7121360
is  at that time the members were still small so no one cared about the 2btc fraud case and replied to the thread?

Maybe nutildah and stompix can explain why that thread is being ignored and no one is replying to comments, not even nutildan and stompix are replying to that thread

The current rby account owner/operator was never going to admit to purchasing the account from fear of being tagged and he could not admit to being the creator of the rby account and Rubycoin scam because that was a developer/coder, therefore he concocted an elaborate story which basically should be sold as a script to a film studio.

Call it a factual hunch, if there is such a thing. He will be unable to make any technical statement let alone practically do it and even then it would not prove much in the context of his negative feedback.

He purchased the account for signature campaigns and along the way made himself helpful here and there (with some members and in some threads) in the hope of creating misdirection if the past ever caught up with him.

He purchased the account because he did not know much about it. He probably did very little research about the Rubycoin scam but the irony is that had I remembered to tag the account back in 2019 it would probably not be put on the market for sale.

I have been involved in many judication, but the type of judgement I see in BTT is not practised anywhere in the world. Almost everyone who ask questions does so for jamboree. They have already preconceived judgement, no matter what you say, minds are already made up. It is only in a few cases that people will reevaluate their decisions and reconsider their judgement.

See this;

It is correct that people always come up with XY stories, and because we have heard enough of these stories, it is therefore correct to say that all the stories are false. This is not a good logic and that is the reason theymos emphasises on case by case handling of matters.

I know my major crime; which is contributing in matters I am not supposed to contribute, joining conversations I am not invited, giving my one cent when I'm not supposed to.

I have seen some DT members leaving me feedbacks.
Some negative and later turned to neutral,
Some neutral,
Some are indifferent.
This shows some level of inconsistencies, but the goal is to sentence rby.
I also seize this medium to thank those who have being with me since this matter started.
Everyday we create threads on reputation seeking for consensus of DTs but when other DT members make suggestions, it will fall on deaf ears.
Who knows if the rby matter will be the last view of the Saints. A community of humanity and leniency could  be ushered any moment.

I can simply go to the profile of some persons and tag them for scam. No one will notice it because I'm not in DT, ofcourse 10yrs later when I will no longer be here, some new people then will use my untrusted red tag and condemn the person. But that I will not do.
That being said, I am saying goodbye to all in this matter. I will not fail to appreciate Poker player for changing his mind at the climax of this matter. It is not all humans can do that. But then I no longer trust your judgement.
JG, I'll leave you to your fate to do what pleases you. I read where you claimed that you changed some negative tags when the community was against it. It is possible you can remove your tag on  my profile.
Invincible49 whose target has always been to paint my account I don't have much to say but the community is watching who they will allow to enter or remain in the DT. You can still reconsider your stance but do not expect me in your DM for begging.
The trust system is decentralized, everyone has the ability to write whatever in another's profile. The difference is that your visible writing today might be invisible tomorrow.

Thanks all
rby.

Honestly, Just piss off you compulsive liar. You bought the account, you have been using it for a couple of years now, mainly under the radar until you tried to stand beside (probably your alts!! HYPOTHECIALLY still to me) with this account and then got noticed. Don't expect you are going to be a lucky Sauron that will be able to fool the Numenoreans with your dodgy writings with every lies in here.


What's traderdaddy: https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@nycrom/meet-traderdaddy-an-automated-cryptocurrency-trading-bot



Not even you (actually not you but the original Kassado/FuzzyHobbit!) responded to those countless accusations. Not even in one of those accusation threads! Go do something about that first. Oh wait, the more you dig deeper on technological aspects the more you will be exposed as an imposter of a scammer against whom there are about hundreds of posts. I wonder if the forum even has ever seen someone with this much haters/angry victims throughout its history! You know why? Because this RBY account owner was among most of the community derived projects back in 2014-2015. It doesn't matter whether he was a scammer or not. He was simply in everything. From close to Bittrex developers to Bot developing to various Layer 1 projects with PoW and PoS.



So stop pretending or else do the following and save us all our times.



Not that uncommon. Those account buyers often spend $300 to $600 on good accounts and they buy in bulk, they have only one job which is to write for signature campaigns all day long! So they hardly give a f about the accounts they buy as long it doesn't come with a red. I once caught an account which was the original account of Faircoin founder Enric Duran. The guy has his own wikipedia ffs! And, the buyer never even noticed that is still my best guess.

What is bugging me the most is why a couple of users with similar writing patterns, same type of early days in the forum as of Naim027- who are also active in local Bangladeshi board are coming to support accounts such as this in this thread and in another thread? Maybe nothing!

Similarly, why would anyone knowingly use an account if they had caused a series of events that resulted in a bounty being placed on them? 🤔

Either way, the account holder now is being evasive.

How do you can think it's impossible?

Most people are greedy, they will buy an account with the criteria of not receive any negative feedback, neutral tag of being a shitposter or anything that could make the account not able to participate a signature campaign, and at least full member rank.

They don't care about the possibility of controlling a profile of bad person, possibility of plagiarism etc.

Similar like we're know a site offering 1% per day is scam, but there's always a person fall for it.

My question is why on earth would someone buy and use an account that has a literal bounty against it ??!

I'm leaning towards they won't be able to sign a message much less create a node because they don't have the program because they aren't one of the Devs.

Call it a hunch...

I went through the profile of rby briefly. I had two things in mind which were;
1. To check if rby is shitposting
2. To check if rby is a scammer or sh/e is  planning to scam.

I noticed some untrusted feedbacks in his account way back (non from a DT member) and I am not sure any of those accusers are still in the forum. No one is claiming that rby stole from them.
In the issue of shit posting, I can confirm that rby isn't a shit poster. There is a thread sh/e is running in the service board where several reputable members dropped him merits in 20s and 10s.
Projects Visibility (Sig Campaigns) in Bitcointalk.
Rby account is just trying to be noticed and also trying to contribute to the forum since sh/e woke, according to Yahoo.
I sincerely do not think that the account should be destroyed. So, I align with what other DT members are saying.
The best to do is to watch the account incase he will want to run a service or come up with another coin project, then the account could be neutral tagged for warning purposes.

This is quite a remarkable reason (excuse) for you to give. I have never read nostalgia given as an excuse for trying to hide account trading before.

Nostalgic value? That is a new excuse to add to the list of excuses given by account traders involving their brothers, sisters, uncles, aunties, mums and dads along with friends and neighbours as they deny account trading. Quite frequently various excuses are concocted but you have taken it to a new level by stating you woke the rby account up from hibernation because it has some sort of nostalgic value.

In a different thread:
Reading about how you opted to go through some miraculous manoeuvres to retrieve the rby account and add to that the previous charity comment and all because miraculously after Covid-19 you remembered you had a forum account. I noted you have added the caveat in advance of scrutiny (in the hope it not being used against you) that you logged in to forum to change the email address because the alleged group email password was not working but the alleged group forum password was working. That trick will not work.

What you have stated is that after Covid-19 you (for reasons not mentioned) remembered you had a forum account and you decided to use that same tainted rby account from the Rubycoin scam (that you claim had been used by multiple people) because it had nostalgic value. And throw in the comment you made that you would give things to charity rather than discard them easily be it property or whatever but you discarded huge swathes of posts quite easily.

I have to say, it is good to see new excuses being presented but not many will believe that nostalgic value was the real reason you woke the rby account up from hibernation.

Because leaving a ton on would prove it's definitely not the same user and if he were to delete them he would lose activity, a quick glance and he will need to make up for about 5 months if he would trash those also.

The thing is pretty simple, it's obvious he is not the original user, if he keeps saying this he's a liar and it makes things worse, if he will simply say he got this account from an old relative that served in ww2 it might not be that big of a deal, he earned 355 merits according to BPIP so he would still be a full sr member on his own.
But again, bill gator account was red-tagged into -9 after confirming he bought his so, every DT with his own choice.

Honestly, I didn't think it that way. I am such a person that doesn't easily discard old things, be it property or whatever. I would send them to charity instead.


I also did not have bad intentions towards this. I didn't think of deleting old posts. But when I tried to join your campaign and including the ones managed by you severally and I wasn't hired, I sent you PM, and your response made me delete the older posts in altcoin announcement. I know you will not remember but I had to do some search in my pm to see it.

My message was this;

You replied this;

This gave me the idea that managers go through the post history of anyone before hire. So, I started to delete the old posts in altcoin announcement.
I am sorry, I have to make this pm public because there’s nothing confidential in it. Thanks!

So I was asked my opinion on this case and I wasn't going to get involved, but I have been reading and I do have a question.



I don't really know much about the rubycoin team or if they scammed and whatnot, but you clearly state that the account you use now was a team account. Everyone had access and could post updates. You are a part of that everyone, but why not start on the forum fresh with no connection to the failed project and avoid any drama that may come at you from that project?

I won't say you are innocent here and I won't condemn you, but it is very curious as to why you chose to use this account vs creating a new name. You clearly earn a decent amount of merits and have been a fairly constructive member of the community. Why delete the post history or most of it? You left just shy of 25 posts from 2015 and deleted the rest. That doesn't look good.

In the last 1.5 years since waking this account up, you could have made Hero member and earned all the merits you have earned and avoided all this mess. So again I ask, why didn't you start brand new man?

As you have correctly stated, this thread should be used to discuss either the Rubycoin scam or the rby account (regardless of who the current owner/operator of the account is). It should not have to be said because it is the obvious course of action however I will say it, those who have issues unrelated to this thread should start their own threads to discuss matters they are concerned with or would like to discuss.


The whole of your post is very interesting, I will come back to the points to address later but I have to say I never knew about the 1 BTC bounty  

Interesting. I was posting about this scam years ago and here you are saying you have a Rubycoin wallet. Even if the current operator manages to sign a known address from the original creator of the rby account what would it prove? It is highly unlikely he will manage to do it regardless.

I did some study of the post history yesterday and I get the same taste as you that the account might be changed hand but that it, it's just an idea. Even if it is a confirmed changed hand account still how many accounts were tagged this way lately especially when the account owner is trying to contribute positively to the forum.

It's a clear case that JollyGood and Poker Player did not like the idea that was shared in another thread, they did not like the argument, and they saw a good opportunity that the account can be destroyed with the issue of changed hand.

The current owner of the rby account just isn't the original owner, and its ridiculous they are pretending they are. It is also ridiculous that at the same time they think their old reputation (which was poor) shouldn't continue to follow them now.

Old owner: articulate developer, native English speaker
New owner: lazy shitposter, not a native English speaker


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I wouldn't have even noticed them if they had they not interjected themselves in the Naim007 discussion... it was a strange move as I'm almost certain they also have alt accounts enrolled in various campaigns... That seems to be a strategy for some "users": save up signature earning to buy new (old) accounts & get those in other campaigns.

Anybody of course is free to say anything they want at any time, in any section of the forum (so long as it doesn't break forum rules), but if you live in a glass house maybe consider not piping up when it comes to reputational matters.

Don't write just for your signature campaign requirement. You should read before posting, you should think before you write. Look at the bold part of my post. As I said, I don't want to mention any names and am not discussing this particular case. Since BitcoinGirl.Club wrote something, and I felt I had something to add; I wrote my experience. I should mention that the person I am talking about is not JollyGood. I did not mention any names here.

If everyone starts creating a thread because of an accusation that never continues, then the whole reputation board will be crazy. It does not worth creating a thread because the accuser got silent after my first reply, there is nothing left to do. Stop encouraging people to create new drama threads.

If you were trying to catch merit, you are successful.

Im coming to this discussion concerning rby / rubycoin very late.

Rubycoin was one of the alt coins I started off with - back in the day Dev's of those alts were active in their threads and would answer numerous questions newbies had when setting up wallets and mining scrypt based coins.

I still have my ruby coin wallet - set up on an external hard drive. So, if need be, I can verify any signed messages from rubycoin wallet addresses.

(I'm away until Friday, so it won't happen until then)

If rby is indeed the "original" owner, then they wouldn't have any difficulties setting up a node.

BitcoinGirl.Club has made a valid point. But all those deleted replies, threads whenever someone called out RBY for his role in various projects in this space kind of points out what kind of a big scammer the original owner of this RBY account was! For instance he/she scammed his/her Rubycoin community, he/she was asked to verify his/her stance in different projects back in the day, he/she responded to some and then totally ignored in most cases back in the day. And suddenly when a known ban evader/altaccounts user was being mentioned in present days in this board- this RBY account had to butt in probably for the first time in this board to divert the conversation. It sure as hell seemed fishy. You simply do not scam people openly and then after years of taking a break come in the community with same account and expect things to go unnoticed.



This sabotaging the code for him/her was easy. He/she and his/her partner binaryclock did the same with dedicatedpool as developers in which they both were hired to do work.


A pro coder who now replies around the forum and none related to coding these days after a long break just because he/she lost interest in coding? Yeah that is as much believable as Mordor being a friendlier, beautiful city than the Shire.




9 years old drama, but if the current owner is the original Kassado/FuzzyHobbit then he/she should not be given any benefit of doubts for scamming CWC for 2 btc.

Yes.. i think jollygood is too arrogant and he likes that. For now, in my opinion, making trash posts is better than finding other people's mistakes, other people are make a trash posts for signature campaigns, Jolly also does the same thing, finding other people's faults for signature campaigns.

Maybe I'm new, but still I'm free to judge Jolly, just like he's free to judge me, the difference is only 1, he can tag me while I can't. not fair indeed. But I know that the judgment thread cannot be opened freely without preliminary evidence and preliminary analysis. So what are you doing wrong, is such an wrong not worth for tag? it is an abuse of your status as a DT, just like a judge judges people without proof, you can be accused of defaming people. I think we all use positive law theory

I don't care who is right and wrong here. But the way you accuse and open judgment threads without preliminary evidence is clearly wrong. It's very dangerous if all the DTs do the same as you. Maybe this forum will lose members. I think a lot of members are afraid of being marked and they're changing for the better. It's time we build forums, not destroy forums. Everyone has the right to change

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BitcoinGirl.Club I've added ~ in front of the name

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jollygood = My advice, attach the evidence or close this thread