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Topic: The curious case of forum member: rby (of the Rubycoin scam) - page 3. (Read 1328 times)

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I don't want to say anything about any particular case or this thread. I don't want to mention any name too. But, one of these forum police blindly said I participated in a Pizza baking contest and other contests to farm merits. While I did not participate in any contest organized in this forum so far. Now I am afraid if I participate in any contest, they will say I am a shit poster and trying to farm merits from the contest. They also said I post shit in the WO thread to farm merits while I got around 7-9 Merits from the WO thread from the general discussion in my forum lifetime.

I read carefully, and this thread is not based on any accusation that has been made against you, so why come up with it here? I think if there's any accusation made against you that you wish to start a discussion about, to show any proof or change those misconceptions in members that you think are beginning to doubt your reputation, then you can Open a thread for yourself to discuss that.


Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺
legendary
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Yes his posting style has already been picked up by nutildah, Poker Player, lovesmayfamilis, myself and some others in the Tagging Accounts Sellers And Tagging Traded/Sold/Bought Accounts thread. For those of us who read the posts there (and elsewhere) had no doubt that the current rby account operator is definitely not the creator of the account.
I think you and Poker Player should have a tag team together. Don't validate your nonsense misusing of power by including some others name who are much sensible than you two and respects the system. Clearly others are not as harsh as you. They don't feel happy after tagging someone. You both are messing around and bossing others who has less influence in the community to take a stand against you two. Sadly, many of us are bord seeing all of these dramas from you two resulting you two are still have a place in the DT system. Perhaps Poker Player is not a regular, but you made your place somehow permanent.

Let's talk about you now because I think Poker Player is just trying to follow your footsteps and he is yet to find his own identity.

You are benefiting the image that you used to have before, which was creating one after another scam accusation threads for ICO and other projects [There was another account and many times I felt you and that other account had many similarities, both accounts used to have the same interest and same mentality. Many times, I thought both accounts are owned by one person but since I am not the type of person who finds fun to policing others, I never took it out. I have not seen the other account to be active from long time so let's forget about it].

The best part of your career was hunting down 1xBit guys and since then I don't see you were able to make a positive impact to the forum. You ran out of ideas since the ICO started to die. From last a year or two, you don't find any good topic to speak, any decent conversation to continue. It's easily noticeable. You go to a very old thread and bump it with answering some very old comments, you make a comment asking others to bring you information so that next time you can make another comment to increase your post count for the signature campaign you are promoting. I have no problem with all these. It's okay but I really don't feel good to myself when I see all of your efforts are destroying forum members who are trying to make themselves noticeable. The moment you lose your argument, you start to feel insecure and use your DT power with these cheap tags. You need a break. Don't destroy the forum. It took us a lot of sweat and blood to create a community, to make this place crowded, people like you are destroying all the good efforts.

rby, Learn Bitcoin, PytagoraZ and others, the best you can do is to distrust JollyGood for the red tag that was left.

Go to your trust setting then add ~JollyGood

Something happened [whatever it is] 9 years ago, our head of police department has filed a case today because the criminal spoke something that he did not like. It sends out a message, if you are not strong enough to argue with the law [created by the head of the department] then you will be destroyed by their negative feedback. No wonder why many people don't step in and make a loud voice.
rby
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he admitted he has stolen 2 BTC from a client.
The rby team didn't steal 2 BTC from anyone.  That was a mere accusation by a competitor then. The accusation did not recieve any response from the community then, not even one person responded to the accusation.
9 years later after the baseless accusation, you are leaving a tag today.
JG, this happened even before you registered in this forum, so how do you feel you will make a good judgement in the matter?
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Jolly? I think I've heard that name before. hmm
Yes his posting style has already been picked up by nutildah, Poker Player, lovesmayfamilis, myself and some others in the Tagging Accounts Sellers And Tagging Traded/Sold/Bought Accounts thread. For those of us who read the posts there (and elsewhere) had no doubt that the current rby account operator is definitely not the creator of the account.

He is stuck between a rock and a hard place because if he were to remain adamant he was the original account creator, tags would be placed on the basis of him lying and/or because of the fact he scammed 2 BTC for undelivered work. However, if he were to claim he purchased the account it would automatically mean receiving tags for account trading.

He had to make a choice and he chose to pretend he is the creator of the Rubycoin scam and with that he admitted he has stolen 2 BTC from a client.

If you create a judgment thread, attach the proof. Attach your analysis to the evidence. Does not provide a link. Such is the mechanism of judgment wherever I know

My advice, attach the evidence or close this thread

Whether he finds a fault or not, it is already obvious that there is no case that warrants red tag. But then, if a DT member tags someone even without an evidence. The community does not kill the DT member. And it is also lies in the hand of the person who left the tag to remove it. Even if the whole community says that JG and PP should delete the feedback and they refuse, nothing will still happen to them. But then people will begin to distrust them. Another implication of misuse of trust feedback is that you weaken the weight of red tag and promote retaliatory tagging.

There must be a new mechanism, where if DT gives the wrong tag and is very detrimental to other people then DT must receive a more severe punishment.
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Yes his posting style has already been picked up by nutildah, Poker Player, lovesmayfamilis, myself and some others in the Tagging Accounts Sellers And Tagging Traded/Sold/Bought Accounts thread. For those of us who read the posts there (and elsewhere) had no doubt that the current rby account operator is definitely not the creator of the account.

He is stuck between a rock and a hard place because if he were to remain adamant he was the original account creator, tags would be placed on the basis of him lying and/or because of the fact he scammed 2 BTC for undelivered work. However, if he were to claim he purchased the account it would automatically mean receiving tags for account trading.

He had to make a choice and he chose to pretend he is the creator of the Rubycoin scam and with that he admitted he has stolen 2 BTC from a client.

The person currently operating the rby account has already claimed they are the creator and original owner of the rby account. In other words by default they are claiming they are the person known as Kassado who is a technical coder who created Rubycoin.
Thanks, somehow I missed that part of his post.

I don't know if you compared his post history in Rubycoin thread against the most recent ones, but I suggest you to do so because its pretty obvious that whoever currently controls the account was not the person who created it, no matter what he claims. I mean, even the post you just quoted shows the difference in English level between now and 2014-2019 period.
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~snip~

I don't think you need to explain anything here because the accuser did not provide any evidence for his accusation. You have the right to remain silent until there is evidence to prove you wrong. The explanation you provide will make the accuser find fault with your explanation.
Whether he finds a fault or not, it is already obvious that there is no case that warrants red tag. But then, if a DT member tags someone even without an evidence. The community does not kill the DT member. And it is also lies in the hand of the person who left the tag to remove it. Even if the whole community says that JG and PP should delete the feedback and they refuse, nothing will still happen to them. But then people will begin to distrust them. Another implication of misuse of trust feedback is that you weaken the weight of red tag and promote retaliatory tagging.

I don't support you rby, but what jollygood is doing is wrong, and I have never seen a judgment begin without preliminary evidence
You are not the only one saying it.
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Jolly? I think I've heard that name before. hmm
~snip~

I don't think you need to explain anything here because the accuser did not provide any evidence for his accusation. You have the right to remain silent until there is evidence to prove you wrong. The explanation you provide will make the accuser find fault with your explanation.

I don't support you rby, but what jollygood is doing is wrong, and I have never seen a judgment begin without preliminary evidence
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I surely know that if a DT member delights in destroying people's account by leaving red tags without proves, even if nothing happens to them, the community is seeing. And they may not be on DT for so long (for ever).
What I would like to know is whether you deny that account changed hands (you were asked that in other thread but I haven't noticed that you answered that.
I wouldn't answer anyone whose only motivate is to humiliate and rubbish someone given any chance.

I am asking because there is an obvious difference in the English level from period between 2015-2019 while being active in Rubycoin thread, and after waking up in 2022. How do you explain this difference because its one thing (and natural) to improve English level but in your case the opposite happened and your English got worse.
 
Rikafip, you can read below because of you and the rest of the community.
Rby was created way back 2014 only for the purpose of promoting the Rubycoin. The Ruby team was behind the promotion of Rubycoin even outside the forum. It was not a solo project, in the team had someone whose duty was to update the thread and others seriously working on the backend then. A unique password relating to the name of the project was used then to allow every member of the team access to any of our handles including BTT but it was the exclusive duty of one person to update information in the media. But incase of unavailability anyone can step in.

Later on trader daddy bot was introduced immediately the project was changed from PoW to PoS. This was an attempt to keep the project going, but I wasn't working as planned.
I think there was some kind of disagreement in the team. It wasn't obvious, but it was a consensus to continue the project or to rename it, and restart with a new concept. There was no clear agreement and the community was loosing interest in the project because many projects saw their end then.
The team separated and everyone went their way. One of the guys in the backend asked to be allowed to continue the project and it was granted him. That is all I can remember about the project.

Down to 2021 (not 2022), After the covid-19. I remembered this forum and the rby account. The password wasn't changed and it was a unique password every member of the team could remember. I inputed the password and had access to the forum. I tried the password in our proton mail address and was denied access(which means someone changed it).

I had to reset the mail here in BTT but couldn't use the account because the project for which the account was created ended. I abandoned the account again till I discovered the gambling discussion board and started posting there. I later understood I can subscribe for signature campaign and earn why having fun. I tried to join signature campaign managed by yahoo62278 then. He didn't hire me for like 3 times. I decided to inbox him to enquire why I cannot be hired. Yahoo62278 told me that most of my posts were in altcoin board and I post burst, that if I continue so no manager will hire me. That was when I decided to delete majority of the posts in altcoin board and edit unnecessary ones to keep my timeline neat.

Later Hhampuz hired me and I worked for him for more than a year.
I left the TrustDice campaign because it required that I make majority of the posts in the gambling section. There was a serious discrimination between people posting in the gambling side and the rest of the forum.
I decided to leave TrustDice to sinbad.io where I can be able to interact freely on the forum.

3yrs of my active involvement in the community has passed and someone is accusing me of a scam that never happen. When newbies bought coins and the market went bearish, they raise alarm of scam. Even then, many people considered BTC a scam.

No one was supposed to make me write this long episode of the past which I am struggling to remember. But it has happened and I take it in a good fate.
BTT is a nice place and we all shall be here. I am an old human being, so no one can bully me from the comfort of his home because of the DT strength given them by the community.
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Jolly? I think I've heard that name before. hmm
This thread has been created to allow all matters related to the rby account being discussed here because a different thread related to discussing generalised Tagging Accounts Sellers And Tagging Traded/Sold/Bought Accounts is being taken taken off-topic by issues related to the rby account.

Feel free to post here in the uncensored thread.


What's going on here? how can a case be opened without attaching preliminary evidence? while sending others to look for evidence. Is it a conspiracy? where you will open a thread and your friend will come with the proof?

If it's so easy to open a judgment thread without attaching any evidence, can I also create a "jollygood accuse that wasn't proven and he didn't apologize" thread. In my opinion, DT must be fair, if you accuse and are right, please tag, if you accuse and are wrong, then improve your reputation and apologize

In the previous thread, it was very easy for you to accuse me, without any evidence, based only on your opinion. When a member is considered too quick to understand, you will think I'm an alt, when a member is too stupid, you will think the member is trash. So? are you just the best with your craziness?

My advice, attach the evidence or close this thread
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The person currently operating the rby account has already claimed they are the creator and original owner of the rby account. In other words by default they are claiming they are the person known as Kassado who is a technical coder who created Rubycoin.
Thanks, somehow I missed that part of his post.

I don't know if you compared his post history in Rubycoin thread against the most recent ones, but I suggest you to do so because its pretty obvious that whoever currently controls the account was not the person who created it, no matter what he claims. I mean, even the post you just quoted shows the difference in English level between now and 2014-2019 period.
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Even in the back days of the forum during my promotion of Rubycoin, can you show me at one time I have been involved in the mining board or technical board, and later on stopped. Must everyone be in the technical or mining board?
The person currently operating the rby account has already claimed they are the creator and original owner of the rby account. In other words by default they are claiming they are the person known as Kassado who is a technical coder who created Rubycoin.

I surely know that if a DT member delights in destroying people's account by leaving red tags without proves, even if nothing happens to them, the community is seeing. And they may not be on DT for so long (for ever).
What I would like to know is whether you deny that account changed hands (you were asked that in other thread but I haven't noticed that you answered that.

I am asking because there is an obvious difference in the English level from period between 2015-2019 while being active in Rubycoin thread, and after waking up in 2022. How do you explain this difference because its one thing (and natural) to improve English level but in your case the opposite happened and your English got worse.
 
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There are few members in the forum including JollyGood who are always chasing forum members to dig grave for others. I sometimes feel the forum is losing members because of these group. These so-called scam busters, forum police are doing everything to be sure that they stay in the DT and harass members.
I don't want to say anything about any particular case or this thread. I don't want to mention any name too. But, one of these forum police blindly said I participated in a Pizza baking contest and other contests to farm merits. While I did not participate in any contest organized in this forum so far. Now I am afraid if I participate in any contest, they will say I am a shit poster and trying to farm merits from the contest. They also said I post shit in the WO thread to farm merits while I got around 7-9 Merits from the WO thread from the general discussion in my forum lifetime.

It's too easy to accuse someone in this forum. While accused members get tagged if the accuser is right, why they don't even apologize if it's proved that they were wrongly accusing someone?
I mean I am saying you are a scammer without any proof and I failed to prove it, shouldn't I apologize for accusing you?
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I surely know that if a DT member delights in destroying people's account by leaving red tags without proves, even if nothing happens to them, the community is seeing. And they may not be on DT for so long (for ever).
What I would like to know is whether you deny that account changed hands (you were asked that in other thread but I haven't noticed that you answered that.

I am asking because there is an obvious difference in the English level from period between 2015-2019 while being active in Rubycoin thread, and after waking up in 2022. How do you explain this difference because its one thing (and natural) to improve English level but in your case the opposite happened and your English got worse.
 
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why do you consider it is worth discussing now when the project is long abandoned/passed and you cannot even recall what happened then?
Very simple. My best guess is, in the recent time you wanted to have an argument with him and somehow he felt it did not go the way he wanted. He tried everything to overturn your argument but failed. There are few members in the forum including JollyGood who are always chasing forum members to dig grave for others. I sometimes feel the forum is losing members because of these group. These so-called scam busters, forum police are doing everything to be sure that they stay in the DT and harass members.

You best guess is very correct.  You are knowledgeable of the things happening in the DT.
The whole issue started in the John Abraham thread where I gave my opinion but some felt rby is nobody to speak on the matter. Read this statement
Royse777 ≈ Cratoon ≈ John Abraham ≈ naim027 now? Grin
You really think I have time for signature spamming, account farming and all these shits?

Royse777 must be a superman or a bot for him to be naim027, John Abraham, AnotherAlt, cryptoSoul, Cratoon and one other account I can't remember it's name. It was used by naim027 for ban appeal. Someone who can farm these accounts is really someone who has no other things to do apart from posting and applying in signature campaigns and not someone like Royse777 who manages upto 5 different campaigns and also manage bounties and other services.


It is now I began to study the feedbacks left Royse777 and some other persons and I understood that there is a gang and if you belong nowhere and appear in the reputation board you may be taken down. No wonder people avoid reputation board and allow judgement in the hands of few.

I surely know that if a DT member delights in destroying people's account by leaving red tags without proves, even if nothing happens to them, the community is seeing. And they may not be on DT for so long (for ever).
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why do you consider it is worth discussing now when the project is long abandoned/passed and you cannot even recall what happened then?
Very simple. My best guess is, in the recent time you wanted to have an argument with him and somehow he felt it did not go the way he wanted. He tried everything to overturn your argument but failed. There are few members in the forum including JollyGood who are always chasing forum members to dig grave for others. I sometimes feel the forum is losing members because of these group. These so-called scam busters, forum police are doing everything to be sure that they stay in the DT and harass members.

This thread has been created to allow all matters related to the rby
List the matters instead of asking someone else to do it for you.
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JG, you created a thread 4 years ago, when you were very much involved in scam bursting according to you. As at then, it didn't recieve any serious response or actions from DTs because it was one among thousands of projects that were developed in the early days of cryptocurrency.  The team behind the Rubycoin tried their best to sustain the project but in the end we gave up just like how many altcoins died during 2017 bear market.

  • If when you were active in scam bursting, you didn't consider it a scam as at then the knowledge of it was fresh and you didn't even leave a neutral tag, why do you consider it is worth discussing now when the project is long abandoned/passed and you cannot even recall what happened then?
  • Are you saying the forum should bring back all the projects that were started from 2010 that didn't survive and start discussing them?
  • If you can be truthful to yourself and go back to the 2019 thread you created and go through it, you will understand that there is no case apart from the trend of creating coins which came and passed.
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Here is the original scam accusation thread I created in January 2019, that was at a time when I was very active in the Scam Accusations boards: SCAM: [RBY] Rubycoin

This thread has been created to allow all matters related to the rby account being discussed here because a different thread related to discussing generalised Tagging Accounts Sellers And Tagging Traded/Sold/Bought Accounts is being taken taken off-topic by issues related to the rby account.

Feel free to post here in the uncensored thread.
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