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September 22, 2022, 10:15:20 AM
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At the initial stage, I ignored the symbolism of the name, because my limited knowledge prompted me to think it was an additional name of the user. After seeing this 'OP' in other posts I was inquisitive enough to research the meaning and learned it means original post/poster.
Since I make use of a phone, I have only seen the initials, OP as a display, often times in bracket format, (OP). Also, when the person who started the topic is commenting on his posts or is quoted in his/her post, this displays as (OP).
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I can easily see the Op tag even though I'm Online on my mobile.

A little information for newbies or other users who don't know the origin of adding the tag (OP) next to the topic-starter name. Adding the (Op) tag is a suggestion from @ajaxtempest described in his thread on May 07, 2022 OP posting easier identification system.

Suggestions from @ajaxtempest received a positive response from users who have been instrumental in the forum.

I think such a system can be useful, specially in sections where the spammy replies outweighs the number of informative replies.

Often it can be confusing to keep track of the OP's actual replies in the thread because the number of posts replying to the First post is more than a single digit number. Some of the threads in the "Bitcoin Discussion" and "Altcoin Discussion" are made with genuine "coffeeshop-debate" idea in mind but ends up being a influx of a Black Friday sale. Cheesy

Hence I would support the "OP's" idea here.

I often find myself scrolling up, to see if a post was made by OP. In many cases the post deserves to be reported unless it was made by OP. Especially on topics from Newbies it's confusing.
So I support this suggestion Smiley

That's....actually a damn good idea, and I wouldn't mind seeing it implemented when the new forum software is rolled out.  Unfortunately there's only two problems: 1) You might not live long enough to see the new forum software rolled out, and 2) This suggestion might be completely ignored, as so many others have.

The idea of indicating an Op is not a bad one. When you visit social media such as facebook, that feature is used, it's indicated as "author".
I think it's worth implementing, unless there will be a draw back because of forum SMF.

Me too.
I was thinking of at least an icon like a mic icon of OP in Reddit back in the days, but due to avatars and the coin logo corresponding the rank of the user, it might be a little difficult to see.
Sometimes when I read certain threads, I am looking for OP's replies if s/he is even bothering to discuss with the replies in the thread or just blatantly abandoned the whole thread. In case the latter happens, I usually either don't bother joining the discussion or just report the thread.

I tend to agree with the suggestion.
Sometimes it needs to scroll up when you forgot the OP name, it will help us if you don't want to memorize first the OP username.  Though the idea isn't necessary much at least, it's hassle-free for us as a reader how to easily catch up or determine the OP replies.

But the question is, how to apply such a system to SMF which the forum used.

Alternative suggestion.
I've been currently using the chrome BPIP Extension to add further features that I liked, it's possible to add this feature on the BPIP chrome extension too while waiting for the result of the OP's proposal?

I agree with this, I think such functionality could be helpful, and I do not see any negative side to it. Sometimes it is hard to follow the thread, especially when it spans over multiple pages. It might be useful to highlight OP posts in some way to get the discussion back on track.

According to them, the addition of the (OP) tag will be very useful to identify the name of the starter-topic in the next post.

Then the suggestions from the people above were responded to by theymos and added a tag (OP) next to the name of the topic-starter.

I probably never would've spent the ~hour figuring out how to add it because it strikes me as unnecessary, but I also don't see the harm in it. Since you wrote the code, I added it. Thanks!
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those words are definitely intended for beginners, it's only natural that the name is also a beginner, sometimes they even post a lot that can't be understood, especially about other symbols, I'm also still a beginner, what I prioritize joining this forum is reading and discussing bitcoin, trading and other crypto, so a beginner like me doesn't know about the symbols you describe because I just focus on the discussion.
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I didn't know what the OP abbreviation meant until I came to this forum. The first time I encountered the term I had to google it.  Cheesy
Well, I don't think anyone is going to charge you now for that confession 😊
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When I start seeing OP on every topic post made. I was amazed by the new development. At first, I was kinda surprised by what am seeing. like when did the forum start putting OP on every starter(name) of a post? It was today I get to find out about it on meta.

OP at this side of the post creator is a brilliant idea. It's commendable.

OP by side of the post creator still means the "original poster" of the post
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Topic starter is written on the (OP) but it is hidden, and those who are using mobile phone to login to the site (forum) might  not see the description but those who are using laptop or desktop will see it.
It depends largely on the version of phone you might be using. I access this forum most times on my mobile as, laptop or desktop is too bulky and don't come handy, not to mention that for me, its not time definitive of when I'll like to access the forum although, larger screens are better as per displays and some functions like adhoc links but, the inscription "OP" displays fine on my mobile device. Mind you, it was a new upgrade to the forum SMF software, code programmed by PowerGlove based on popular demand and implemented by Theymos.
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I think its working cause I am using mobilw phone thru my browser and I can see the (OP) besides your name. Unless that you edited your name which is impossible right?
That is not what Agbe is trying to say, the "OP" is displayed in both mobile phones and pc's, but on pc's if you hover your mouse on the "OP" that is displayed, it displays the meaning of "OP", but the same cannot apply to members using the forum from their mobile phones, but that is not a problem, anybody can find the meaning of "OP" in a sec, the way they can find the meaning of things like: asap, brb, etc, lol, jsyk.
Yeah as lot of time I access the forum from my Mobile phone I see the OP mentioned along with the thread creator but we can know the detail of it when we hover over it on laptop/pc as this feature is accessible there only.But this term is known to many so for me it's not a problem.

But as we see the term OP is used in different contexts and in the forum scope it is referred to as original poster to highlight the thread creator or reply to him and those who are unaware about it can help from the hover feature new addition.There are still who confuse the meaning of this term and check what it means in forum now.
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As it was said by Welsh, most users might not know the meaning or the reason adding the feature to their name.

Most users? I'm not so sure. Most newbies perhaps? Besides, that's not what Welsh said. He said: "not everyone will know what "OP" stands for".
Yeah, i find it difficult too on other forums when im just new. They call "OP" as "TS" or "Thread Starter" or "Topic Starter", some used "OP" too. But soon as i? Regularly visiting and participate the discussions you will eventually know what that is. So newbies are the ones who probably don't know yet about this, unless they were used to visit and a member on other forums.
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When Power raised this topic and followed it up by writing a script to enable the fast implementation of the idea, I contributed in the two threads. Welsh didn't disagree with the idea, he only opined that users (especially) new comers might see it as a point to frequently start new threads just to ask the meaning of Op. I just realised he was right, just few days of implementing the idea, I have seen upto 3 topics pointing to it and not even by the newbies but established members.

I do not see any problem with the "OP" implementation, whether on mobile or laptop. Even if you are too tired to check out the meaning of "OP" in the net, with a keen observation, you should be able to know what "OP" stands for, because throughout the discussion in any thread, only one user will have the "OP" inscription.
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I didn't know what the OP abbreviation meant until I came to this forum. The first time I encountered the term I had to google it.  Cheesy
I assume that the term is known to members who have more experience with internet forums and message boards.
Previously, I also never know what OP is. But since I joined this forum, I often saw people state OP. I am not really sure what OP means, but I assume it is the Original Poster since it is related to thread stater. Sure, the people who already became members of this forum for months or years, must know what OP is. It is something very familiar in this forum, not a new thing. We even see it everyday.  Grin

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Topic starter is written on the (OP) but it is hidden, and those who are using mobile phone to login to the site (forum) might  not see the description but those who are using laptop or desktop will see it.
I just realized that the phone display doesn't provide any information about the OP's description next to the thread creator name. But I wouldn't be surprised because using a mobile phone to access bitcointalk has some limitations as in this case. You also won't see where you will be directed to when there's a hidden link in the text sent to your PM by someone while you use phone, so it's the same case.


Why do I think this topic belongs to Meta Board @Agbe
He had said it.

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I wanted to make a comment  here  (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/identifying-the-op-at-a-glance-smf-patch-5412983) but I came to realize that most newbies are not visiting Meta. That is why I bring it here for everyone to see.
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I wanted to make a comment here but I came to realize that most newbies are not visiting Meta. That is why I bring it here for everyone to see.

maybe it would be good if you write about this in that thread, also mentioning PowerGlove creator of this (OP) patch. maybe that will invite him to make a small upgrade and facilitate this possibility on mobile devices.

btw. I'm a little surprised how many people only use a mobile device for all their "computer" needs.
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I have seen several forums with this feature, if you are used to Reddit, then you will know the purpose of this, I never knew this could be implemented on the forum SMF. It keeps conversation clean and makes you easily follow up on interesting conversations between the original poster/post and other users.
If this is possible, then I think there is a need to implement other simple proposals and suggestions the forum members have posted on the Meta board, not really the ones that will cost the forum security, the simple ones are okay.

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Why do I think this topic belongs to Meta Board @Agbe
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Just to add a minor anecdote to this topic, there are certain circumstances where (OP) won’t be shown in a thread in this recent implementation on Bitcointalk.
Could it be in cases where The OP's account is deleted and the content is edited by an admin or mod? In an example[1], the OP shows as anonymous and the (OP) sign does not show up besides their post or any subsequest one.
In another case here[2], even though the account name is not changed, (OP) is not attached to the profile on threads they created.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1985
[2] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-delete-bitcointalk-forum-account-67541

- Jay -
That's because the OP's status is "Guest" (https://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Guest).
My assumption, in the early days of this forum, even members without logging in could post on the forum, as shown in the link.

Users who create threads by logging into the forum are still listed as OP after their account name, even though the post was edited by forum staff. Here are some examples:
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8617640
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8480600
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On the first topic I read after the update I thought the topic starter had changed their username to include (op) - although then I clicked another thread and saw it was a thing to identify the topic starter...


I also thought about it. And I noticed this on a newbie account. For a second, I was embarrassed at how this happened, thinking how difficult it is to change the nickname for legendary accounts that would like to do this. 
But now it has become convenient to keep track of the author of the topic, especially how often he appears in the topic he created.
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I think its working cause I am using mobilw phone thru my browser and I can see the (OP) besides your name. Unless that you edited your name which is impossible right?
That is not what Agbe is trying to say, the "OP" is displayed in both mobile phones and pc's, but on pc's if you hover your mouse on the "OP" that is displayed, it displays the meaning of "OP", but the same cannot apply to members using the forum from their mobile phones, but that is not a problem, anybody can find the meaning of "OP" in a sec, the way they can find the meaning of things like: asap, brb, etc, lol, jsyk.
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- Jay -
Just to add a minor anecdote to this topic, there are certain circumstances where (OP) won’t be shown in a thread in this recent implementation on Bitcointalk.
Could it be in cases where The OP's account is deleted and the content is edited by an admin or mod? In an example[1], the OP shows as anonymous and the (OP) sign does not show up besides their post or any subsequest one.
In another case here[2], even though the account name is not changed, (OP) is not attached to the profile on threads they created.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1985
[2] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-delete-bitcointalk-forum-account-67541

- Jay -
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To be honest, I don't think it is that hard for everybody to know that the first user on any thread is the original poster. It's like saying the sun is hot. I mean, of course. It is common sense to conclude that the one who opened the discussion is the topic starter. Unless there are threads in which the original post is the 2nd or 3rd or 4th post.

And I guess it is not that hard for a newbie to eventually know what OP means. Sooner or later he/she will find out that OP means either the original post or original poster.
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Just to add a minor anecdote to this topic, there are certain circumstances where (OP) won’t be shown in a thread in this recent implementation on Bitcointalk. Let’s see if anyone can depict under which circumstances this does not happen, and infer a probable reason as to why it was implemented in this manner. For now, I don’t think there’s any need for clues, but knowing where to look, it’s pretty much in plain sight.
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Topic starter is written on the (OP) but it is hidden, and those who are using mobile phone to login to the site (forum) might  not see the description but those who are using laptop or desktop will see it.
I think its working cause I am using mobilw phone thru my browser and I can see the (OP) besides your name. Unless that you edited your name which is impossible right? OP denotes "original post/poster so some might be confuse with it especially the newbie but we can always remind them of that.

I juat noticed this thing appearing on OP's name. So it indeed implemented already by theymos.
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