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June 27, 2016, 04:12:36 PM
#34
It's really ironic. The people who were all for the UK leaving the EU, with the intention of keeping the UK together, have caused the UK to become polarized to a degree that they could not have imagined. Like the OP said, Scotland will now definitely be pushing for independence. And people in London, don't want anything to do with leaving the EU.

Additionally, the whole world is angry at the UK's decision to leave the EU and is looking for ways to punish them financially.
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June 27, 2016, 03:55:49 PM
#33
may be is so but my person view is different. i think it is very useful in favour of UK. although it is a tuff time for UK to stable but i am hopeful that UK will stable itself very soon.
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June 27, 2016, 02:55:34 PM
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I disagree with your views. Every country has a dark chapter. Why single out UK?

It doesn't look like a darker side of UK. I believe only after the proper acceptance of the getting out from the union after 2years can exactly know what happens to the growth of UK.

Or sooner. The process to leave the eu can take less than 2 years. After invoking article 50 the uk and eu will negotiate the exit. 2 years is the time limit for those negotiations. If there is no agreement then the uk leaves anyway. But no one is calling for article 50 to be invoked yet. And maybe it won't ever be: http://www.vox.com/2016/6/25/12031254/no-brexit-article-50
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June 27, 2016, 10:36:42 AM
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Medtronic is to buy Heartware International for $1.1 billion - that's a 92% premium. It seems a lot of companies and countries believe in the future of Britain, and are prepared to invest money to be a part of it.
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June 27, 2016, 10:12:25 AM
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I disagree with your views. Every country has a dark chapter. Why single out UK?

It doesn't look like a darker side of UK. I believe only after the proper acceptance of the getting out from the union after 2years can exactly know what happens to the growth of UK.
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June 27, 2016, 09:32:57 AM
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/26/nicola-sturgeon-new-scottish-referendum-brexit

Nicola Sturgeon: Scottish parliament could block Brexit
Scotland’s first minister says she will consider asking MSPs to vote down legislation needed for UK to leave the EU

LOL! What will happen first? The UK leaving the EU or Scotland leaving the FUK?

She hasn't got the legal authority, Holyrood is a sort of glorified county council - and all her posturings in the last couple of days have been about delusions of grandeur (nothing new, she pays herself more than the Prime Minister for looking after fixed spending for the 5 million Scots, whereas the PM looks after 65 million people with responsibility for tax, defence and foreign policy).

Brussels has already told her that they won't negotiate with her, and only if and when Scotland is independent will they talk to her. She doesn't want to call a referendum though because the majority of Scots say they don't want one, they want to wait to see how Brexit actually pans out before making a decision.
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June 27, 2016, 09:14:47 AM
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The UK has never really been united. I'm English, and British is now such a devalued description, that only the immigrants seem to use it with conviction. I think the Scots, Irish, Welsh and even the Cornish seem to feel the same way. If it turns out that only England comes out of the  EU, then I am happy with that. I'd be sad to lose the contributions made by the other members of the UK, but getting out of the EU and TTIP must be our number one priority. Actually this tribalism is common in many countries - look at Spain and France for example. It's even in America. When I was over there, some people would think of themselves as Texans ( for example ) first, and Americans second.
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June 27, 2016, 08:08:26 AM
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I don't think the uk is any worse off then they wher,   it's too early days yet.  Sturgeon will definitely push for another Scottish referendum and i think it may well go in favour of independence but it would probably be a  bad idea  for Scotland to get  into Europe even if spain  or whoever it was didn't try to block it.   
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June 27, 2016, 04:31:36 AM
#26
I wish things could have remained the way it was.
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June 27, 2016, 01:51:12 AM
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I disagree with your views. Every country has a dark chapter. Why single out UK?
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June 27, 2016, 01:37:05 AM
#24
Some years ago I remember the whole mess regarding the Lisbon Treaty, like we were all doomed by that treaty which was the beginning of EU dictatorship.
Now the UK leaving the EU and all the mess related.

Maybe that was the point: destroy the EU from the inside.
Who better than the UK could do that?

No crisis was sufficient to destroy the EU but this was the plan all along. And now I recognize it.
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June 27, 2016, 01:15:59 AM
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no to mention that the result wont be valid without approval from london the snp don't have a majority in the scottish parliament so how the hell does she think she is going to get the referendum legislation through
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June 26, 2016, 06:15:57 PM
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It's quite simple really the Free United Kingdom leaves the EU, and enters a new period of prosperity. Those who want to jump off the gravy train should be allowed to do so. Under the changed circumstances, it is right that Scotland has a referendum to drop into poverty. Personally, I will continue to buy their scotch, but not their haggis.
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June 26, 2016, 06:03:32 PM
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/26/nicola-sturgeon-new-scottish-referendum-brexit

Nicola Sturgeon: Scottish parliament could block Brexit
Scotland’s first minister says she will consider asking MSPs to vote down legislation needed for UK to leave the EU

LOL! What will happen first? The UK leaving the EU or Scotland leaving the FUK?
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June 26, 2016, 07:46:06 AM
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Let me tell you folks something.... all these scaremongering tactics are not going to work. All those who could be influenced by such tactics voted for Bremain during the referendum. The remainder is composed of experienced and intelligent people who can't be won by such tactics. So my advice is to stop whining, and to apply for the Irish passport, if you want to remain in the EU.

Just to put the story right:

This guy was giving conspiracy therories like the elites killed the labour mp to get bremain a win.
1 day before the voting he was sure bremain would win because of that.


Please.... Roll Eyes
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June 26, 2016, 06:54:08 AM
#19
Big impact in economy and other developments can be felt upon UK, but only at the initially days they will suffer and gradually situations will change. Even now on the day of election too world economy itself had a great fall because of the unexpected poll results.
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June 26, 2016, 06:28:14 AM
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Scotland the brave why do you wish to be dictated to by the EU if they still remain part of the UK but independently join the EU?

Because the Scots believe EU will be nicer than the UK! The EU has never killed any Scot so far.

I agree with you that is very good possibility that Scotland and N. Ireland will leave UK and join EU again.
I can't agree that we don't need countries any more.
If no countries, it means no governments, no laws, no order etc.
What will be results of it?
Anarchy and self destruction.


I didn't say we shouldn't have any police forces. There will always be the need for a sheriff to prevent people from killing each other. When I say no country, I mean no flag and no allegiance to something fictitious and most often built from war.

I think the UK should be renamed because it's no longer United. Northern Ireland and Scotland have clearly voted in favor of staying in the EU. I propose that the country, for a while, to be renamed as the Formerly United Kingdom. That sounds nice too.
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June 26, 2016, 03:03:56 AM
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Scotland has clearly announced it wants to remain in the EU. Ireland and Gibraltar have been less vocal, but they're not far behind. There's a huge opportunity for Ireland to reunite, it will be seized. Ditto for Gibraltar in Spain.

The UK has always been a BS country anyway. It was built on treason, the prince of Wales doesn't deserve his title, and blood. Nazi Germany has killed millions of Jews, Britain has killed millions of Scottish and Irish men and women. I drink to Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage, they'll enter history books as the men who have destroyed the UK. They are heroes just like Gorbatchev who allowed the USSR, another BS country, to self-destruct.

We don't need countries. The smaller they are, the less power they have, the better for the people!

I agree with you that is very good possibility that Scotland and N. Ireland will leave UK and join EU again.
I can't agree that we don't need countries any more.
If no countries, it means no governments, no laws, no order etc.
What will be results of it?
Anarchy and self destruction.
By the way, I think that Gorbatchev did great thing when he allowed peaceful dissolution of USSR and end of communism regime.


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June 26, 2016, 02:33:09 AM
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Hong Kong is an interesting situation, and it illustrates the fact that Britain honours its obligations and agreements. It shows that the world can trust us when negotiating treaties. The same isn't true of the EU. Countries are better off dealing directly with the UK, and avoiding being deceived by the disintegrating EU.
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