Topic: The end of Western civilization - page 2. (Read 2526 times)

But I do Muslims resemble locusts. They crowd settled in all civilized countries and begin to impose their own rules. They do not work and just live on benefits and also children each year give birth.

So yeah you're saying that Muslims are organized and actually making an "invasion"...

Sorry but could you explain us who is leading this brilliant strategy?

Immigration is a part of the tactic. Infidel nations will be converted to the Caliphate in three ways:

1. Immigration of Muslims to the infidel nation
2. Conversion of infidel women to Islam
3. Demograohic Jihad by the Muslim women

Sorry but your answer is reaaaaaaaaaaaally stupid :/

You're actually saying that Muslims are in fact organized in order to takeover our countries through immigration? ><

What the Muslim world lacks in technology, they makes up for that in manpower. As per the Islamic traditions, there are two types of Jihad. The first one is direct Jihad. In this, non-Muslims are raped and murdered, so that a part of the "infidels" accept Islam, others are reduced to slave labor and the remaining flee to other non-Muslim lands. Indirect Jihad is different. The followers will target vulnerable children of the infidels with drugs and alcohol, and simultaneously increase their population through demographic jihad. A perfect example is here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

western civilization will surely come to an end one day, and it will happen in this generation. Outside the evolutionally proved in the video, there are biblical facts that proved the western civilization is about to come to an end. Like our Jesus Christ has said: Like in the days of Noah that is what will happen in this generation. I do ask myself what happened in the days of Noah: Corruption, hatred and religious perversion.

The film was like a horror movie to the western countries and that is if they believe that such conspiracy theories will become real and effect western civilization. As what I am always speaking western civilization will be more stable and continue to moved on since Trump has closed the borders for muslim immigrants and abolish abortion rights. If muslim immigrants will continue to enter America then sooner or later muslim population will flood america since muslims like to propagate while americans love to abort and control birth.

Not sure Caliphate will replace Western civilization.
I don't think the main enemy is the Muslim world, they're too weak. It's like the French (Gaulois, don't know the English word for that sorry), Romans focused on them for long but the real enemy was behind!

I would use the word "horrifying" rather than "interesting". The death of the Western civilization is bad news. And it will be even worse, if it is replaced with a Caliphate which work as per the stone-age customs.

I like saw but I am never scared because I watched that kind of movies when I was only 5-6 years so it is only funny for me nothing cant fright me I can only fright other person 

Yeah but this one is much more frightening that something like saw 

Oh nice this film is really interesting,it shows one part of true western civilization is really failing this years.I like films like this and every other type of films especially horor movies.

Please just take some time to read.
Maybe I didn't understand your premise but that doesn't mean what I'm saying is false, it's always the same: you have a huge increase in all domains, including technology but there are signs that shows we're heading to a collapse of our society.
That's what I'm saying, that there is no reason for our "civilization" to be different from all the others...

And if you actually believe we'll reach the Singularity... Then you're just like a Christian believing in the return of Jesus, you're illogical so we can't really discuss ^^

Yes... it is difficult to believe that advanced civilizations can degrade to stone-age, like what has happened with Afghanistan. Afghanistan of the 1960s and 1970s seems like a mirage now.

You mis state premises, then draw illogical overly broad conclusions, and then double down on wrong.   And no, you don't seem familiar with singularity.  Or having read of it, did not understand disruptive technologies.   Ref original paper by Vernon Vinge.

Let's simplify.

Collapse = percentage of houses world wide with air conditioning goes down
Anti-Collapse = percentage of houses world wide with air conditioning goes up

Enough said.

those picture looks fake,like painting

I am afraid that we survived so far only because we, as human species wasn't able destroy the world completely.
Current generation is always convinced that they are the most brightest people and the order of things they know will be forever.
From history we can confirm that this is huge cognitive bias and it is the reason we are, and will be plagued by economic crises.
Every civilization before was convinced that they will last forever, it never happened. I don't believe that technical singularity will help us with this.

You don't understand... I'll try to say it with simple words.

Yes the current communication and economic interdependence and living standards are a new thing in human history.
When Egyptian Empire emerged, the use of pictural alphabet (don't know the exact word) was a new thing in human history and so were the economic interdependence of the different cities and the living standards of Egyptian citizens.
When Roman Empire emerged, the use of paper and alphabet in a whole Empire was a new thing in human history, and so were the economic interdependence of the provinces of the Empire and the living standards of Roman citizens.
When European culture and civilization emerged, printing was a new thing to human history, and so were the economic interdependence of the different countries and the living standards of... Ok not the living standards this time, actually I'm not sure a French citizen lived better than a Roman one, or at least I can't say it's a fact it would need some research.


What I try to say is that EVERYTIME we reach a new all time high in various domain, and EVERYTIME the "singularity" you're describing (and I'm well aware of the numerous theories at least concerning digital and AI singularities) isn't happening but on the contrary the Empire collapses.

Some of the new civilizations comes with economical and technological development. But some others are quite the opposite. There are a few examples. The first one is Afghanistan. This was Afghanistan during the 1970s:



And this is Afghanistan now:

No.  The current realities of world wide communications, economic interdependence and general raising up of living standards are a new thing in human history.   

We may be seeing a diminishing of the importance of the nation-state in the overall scheme of things; but this is not the same as a "decline of western civilization."

In fact, as these realities are the outgrowth of western civilization, perhaps it shows the emerging world dominion of western civilization.