The end of Western civilization - page 3.

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Quote from: European Central Bank on February 17, 2017, 03:00:31 PM

Quote from: mainpmf on February 17, 2017, 02:18:29 PM

Nothing has changed. Nothing is different...

what about the insane depth that the global economy is now entwined? what's bad for america is also bad for china. that's unprecedented at any other time in human history. while the peacocks are closing borders and blowing up brown people, everyone else is making money behind the scenes no matter where they are.

That's false :/
Simply because everytime a new civilization arises there is a new level of economical and technological development... Of course it's unprecedented, but everytime it's also a new all-time high...

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Quote from: mainpmf on February 17, 2017, 01:56:52 PM

Hello people

I wanted to share with you an awesome, incredible documentary about the coming fall of the Western civilization.

It's called "The Four Horsemen"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbvquHSPJU

I'm sure most of you won't take the time to watch it as it's 1h40 long but it's the best documentary on the subject I've ever seen.

The idea is that Empires have always the same evolution. And the documentary tries to show how the cycle of creation and destruction of empires are currently in place.
We're on the last phase, the one of decadence.
And we're fighting it exactly like empires have always done... By making war and closing our borders...
And it has never worked in the entire Human history :/

Well i didn't actually watch the entire link but its very interesting and i may finish it duting some idle time. Though i think it raised a valid point. With whats happening now, i think western hold globally may be dwindling a bit and powers from the east may be able to challenge that hold. But i think we're still far from seeing a change of power. Let's face it, as of now, america is still thr most powerful country and would most likely be like that in a couple of more years unless trump does something too foolish

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Quote from: dylanc on February 17, 2017, 08:30:12 PM

Empires will rise and fall, but the growth of mankind is always on an upward trend.

Not much sure about that. Earth is running out of space, and the basic natural resources are getting scarce. And in turn, this is causing an upswing in the incidence of major wars and confrontations.

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Quote from: Fortify on February 18, 2017, 04:26:21 AM

The west has probably done more than the rest of the world combined and tends to be very resourceful. China is getting much stronger and may start throwing their weight around much more. Besides having a lot of land and nuclear weapons, Russia is relatively weak with their economy. The only advantages of authoritarian government is forcing through infrastructure upgrades - but even this can backfire environmentally or cause people to overthrow them.

As powerful as china is getting econimical wise its in their interest not to push their weight about. They export massive amounts of products worldwide and it would bevery risky to lose the billions of $ that flows into the country every year.

I never watched the documentary but the difference between then and now is we have a worldwide communications system so civilised nations can communicate instantly which means the chances of civilised societies letting each other dwindle out are pretty slim.

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The west has probably done more than the rest of the world combined and tends to be very resourceful. China is getting much stronger and may start throwing their weight around much more. Besides having a lot of land and nuclear weapons, Russia is relatively weak with their economy. The only advantages of authoritarian government is forcing through infrastructure upgrades - but even this can backfire environmentally or cause people to overthrow them.

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Quote from: mainpmf on February 17, 2017, 01:56:52 PM

Hello people

I wanted to share with you an awesome, incredible documentary about the coming fall of the Western civilization.

It's called "The Four Horsemen"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbvquHSPJU

I'm sure most of you won't take the time to watch it as it's 1h40 long but it's the best documentary on the subject I've ever seen.

The idea is that Empires have always the same evolution. And the documentary tries to show how the cycle of creation and destruction of empires are currently in place.
We're on the last phase, the one of decadence.
And we're fighting it exactly like empires have always done... By making war and closing our borders...
And it has never worked in the entire Human history :/

The closing of borders doesnt mean that there will be a war coming and will destroy the Western Civilization. Destruction of Wetern Civilization is not going to happen just because of war but if Trump did not close the borders soon the immigrants culture will spread and will eat the culture and the government of the State. People from Islamic countries loves to propagate while westerners loves birth control. Time will come when the number of immigrants will be much more compare to the Americans then there will be a change of Administration. Immigration of muslims is not longer migration but a form of invasion.

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Empires will rise and fall, but the growth of mankind is always on an upward trend.

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Quote from: European Central Bank on February 17, 2017, 06:08:38 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on February 17, 2017, 05:59:27 PM

Quote from: European Central Bank on February 17, 2017, 03:00:31 PM

Quote from: mainpmf on February 17, 2017, 02:18:29 PM

Nothing has changed. Nothing is different...

what about the insane depth that the global economy is now entwined? what's bad for america is also bad for china. that's unprecedented at any other time in human history. while the peacocks are closing borders and blowing up brown people, everyone else is making money behind the scenes no matter where they are.

Economic singularity.

The end of fiat money (possibly)

The rise of AI

This time it's very, very different.

and that affects all civilisations, not just the western ones. we might be fine, we might be screwed. but the main thing that's different this time is that we're all in it together.

Okay, let's expand on this a bit. To understand, one would read .... what ?

Kurzweil, Singularity is Near

What else?

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Quote from: Spendulus on February 17, 2017, 05:59:27 PM

Quote from: European Central Bank on February 17, 2017, 03:00:31 PM

Quote from: mainpmf on February 17, 2017, 02:18:29 PM

Nothing has changed. Nothing is different...

what about the insane depth that the global economy is now entwined? what's bad for america is also bad for china. that's unprecedented at any other time in human history. while the peacocks are closing borders and blowing up brown people, everyone else is making money behind the scenes no matter where they are.

Economic singularity.

The end of fiat money (possibly)

The rise of AI

This time it's very, very different.

and that affects all civilisations, not just the western ones. we might be fine, we might be screwed. but the main thing that's different this time is that we're all in it together.

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Quote from: European Central Bank on February 17, 2017, 03:00:31 PM

Quote from: mainpmf on February 17, 2017, 02:18:29 PM

Nothing has changed. Nothing is different...

what about the insane depth that the global economy is now entwined? what's bad for america is also bad for china. that's unprecedented at any other time in human history. while the peacocks are closing borders and blowing up brown people, everyone else is making money behind the scenes no matter where they are.

Economic singularity.

The end of fiat money (possibly)

The rise of AI

This time it's very, very different.

European Central Bank

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Quote from: mainpmf on February 17, 2017, 02:18:29 PM

Nothing has changed. Nothing is different...

what about the insane depth that the global economy is now entwined? what's bad for america is also bad for china. that's unprecedented at any other time in human history. while the peacocks are closing borders and blowing up brown people, everyone else is making money behind the scenes no matter where they are.

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Quote from: Spendulus on February 17, 2017, 02:15:09 PM

Quote from: mainpmf on February 17, 2017, 01:56:52 PM

Hello people

I wanted to share with you an awesome, incredible documentary about the coming fall of the Western civilization.

It's called "The Four Horsemen"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbvquHSPJU

I'm sure most of you won't take the time to watch it as it's 1h40 long but it's the best documentary on the subject I've ever seen.

The idea is that Empires have always the same evolution. And the documentary tries to show how the cycle of creation and destruction of empires are currently in place.
We're on the last phase, the one of decadence.
And we're fighting it exactly like empires have always done... By making war and closing our borders...
And it has never worked in the entire Human history :/

Now we have a short term Singularity, technological and otherwise.

Past history, bah.

The reason why Humanity will always fail :/

Not taking account of the past is the first mistake of humans...
"this time it's different"
No
Nothing has changed. Nothing is different...

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Quote from: mainpmf on February 17, 2017, 01:56:52 PM

Hello people

I wanted to share with you an awesome, incredible documentary about the coming fall of the Western civilization.

It's called "The Four Horsemen"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbvquHSPJU

I'm sure most of you won't take the time to watch it as it's 1h40 long but it's the best documentary on the subject I've ever seen.

The idea is that Empires have always the same evolution. And the documentary tries to show how the cycle of creation and destruction of empires are currently in place.
We're on the last phase, the one of decadence.
And we're fighting it exactly like empires have always done... By making war and closing our borders...
And it has never worked in the entire Human history :/

Now we have a short term Singularity, technological and otherwise.

Past history, bah.

mainpmf

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Activity: 448

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Hello people

I wanted to share with you an awesome, incredible documentary about the coming fall of the Western civilization.

It's called "The Four Horsemen"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbvquHSPJU

I'm sure most of you won't take the time to watch it as it's 1h40 long but it's the best documentary on the subject I've ever seen.

The idea is that Empires have always the same evolution. And the documentary tries to show how the cycle of creation and destruction of empires are currently in place.
We're on the last phase, the one of decadence.
And we're fighting it exactly like empires have always done... By making war and closing our borders...
And it has never worked in the entire Human history :/

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