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December 26, 2023, 09:53:29 AM
#40
I'm of the same opinion as many people said, it doesn't make sense to have another league when there is already a very tight schedule because of having many leagues in each season, imagine how difficult it must be for teams from England having to play in the premier league , there are 2 other leagues, there is a European champions league, a European league, you have to play for the England national team in friendly games, in qualifying games for the euro, in euro games, in qualifying games for the world cup, in the world cup games. This all tires the players a lot, see that a player has training from Monday to Friday and Saturday or Sunday has a game. In training, players run every day

So how long will the players have to rest? They won't have time to rest and as a consequence, when they get injured, they need to spend a long time recovering and this causes a lot of damage to the team, there are many teams that were very damaged because of the national teams' games. we just have to see next year what a headache it will be for the team coaches because next year there will be the African Cup of Nations games, whenever there is this tournament, the European teams are harmed because the African players return injured from that tournament, there is the Euro which is also another very important European competition that will cause many players to get injured and there is the CONMEBOL Copa América which is also a very important competition on the American continent and there will certainly be many injured players returning from this tournament
The players are already going through extreme stress due to the scheduling of the tournaments and games and it all seems like the activity line up is choked. Introducing new activities to the schedule will only increase the rate of the worn out feeling every player would experience. Although it won't be for all teams but still the players involved would be at higher risk of injuries.

 The domestic league game is enough, so is the UCL and UEL, then they've got the country's cups in the respective leagues. So it's more or less unnecessary that there's a welcome to another continental cup.vit really is of no use as it's purposeless for the team but very much a wealth investing opportunity for the football heads. And now this is simply satisfying your need at the expense of someone else's satisfaction and it's clearly unfair.
There should be considerations too and not just blindly making unfair decisions both intentionally and unintentionally.
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December 25, 2023, 01:34:32 PM
#39
I was against it when they announced initially and I'm against renewed project. We have something very similar in European basketball, called Euroleague. Yeah, it's very interesting to watch, but it's closed league basically. And when rest of clubs can't get into it, gap between them and elite is getting bigger and bigger.
System that UEFA have is almost perfect IMO. Even tiny club from Gibraltar can qualify to group stage. And whole competition format is almost perfect IMO. But it's last season with current format, next season we will have new format, though, I still didn't figured out fully how it will work. And I don't like that UEFA fixing things that aren't broken, but it's probably their reaction to ESL.
Anyway, seems that ESL have only 2 supporters remaining, Real and Barca, so, future of project is uncertain.
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December 25, 2023, 01:24:24 PM
#38
Did you see latest statement from UEFA president Aleksander Ceferin talked about

"We have never tried to stop the project. They can do whatever they want, I hope they start as soon as possible with two clubs. I hope they know what they are doing, but I am not sure. Football is not for sale."

Its so funny about about what his said football is not for sale but UEFA made many competition every years between national teams and club competition with UEFA get more profitable trough television broadcasting rights and sponsorship, with present of The European Super League will make team earn based on equal distribution of broadcasting rights and sponsorship with a very large amount compared to competitions held by UEFA such as the Champions League or Europe League. But disappointed respond with many top European teams rejected with ideas The European Super League with fantastic income due participants but many of teams have announce not will participants.

https://www.goal.com/en/lists/european-super-league-uefa-fse-aleksander-ceferin/blt10695e6244c9a1ef#cs9f3f3dcfff0a2439

I was going to say the same thing. He is literally mocking us about that topic.  Cheesy  Just how can you say that football is not for sale? Won't you really do what they want when for example Saudi Arabia or Qatar come to you and make a very profitable offer? Arabian and Qatari teams have already got so many players from Europe for a lot of money.

Now the possibility of Saudi Arabian teams to join the Champions League also is being discussed. Some time ago they said like that kind of a thing wouldn't happen. But I don't believe their words honestly. If this really happens the balances will surely be upset a lot.
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December 25, 2023, 01:11:11 PM
#37
UEFA Champion League and other competition under UEFA controlling must be transparent with how much TV broadcast rights and sponsorship earned by UEFA and spent to all teams participants more bigger than commission earned by UEFA only.

Some of the clubs that supported the ESL accused UEFA of abusing their monopoly and dominance. The football governing organisation have had a series of accusations of financial misappropriation and abuse of power by top officials. These clubs feel that it is important to break this monopoly and free European clubs from this bondage. Most of the clubs that want to join this new league are doing that because of financial gain, so it is time for UEFA to be transparent in its financial dealings so that these clubs can make a good profit because most of them are in deep debt. I don't like the ESL league because it will not give smaller clubs equal opportunities but the powers of UEFA need to be whittled down.
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December 25, 2023, 12:32:42 PM
#36
There needs to be a middle ground and I do not think that the new method of UCL is the one. We do need to see money play a role in football one way or another, and currently it's just the reality.

Yes, we do like to hear stuff like Leicester city winning premier league, and yes this will close the door on that type of stuff ever happening, that's true. However, haven't we seen City just dominate that whole league? Real and Barcelona dominate la liga? Bayern dominating Bundesliga? PSG dominating Ligue 1?

We have seen these things already and it's already here, so we might as well at least get the best out of that. If these teams are the 90% of income of UCL, why are they getting like just 10% of the shares? The money is nearly equally distributed to everyone in the groups, that's not good at all.
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December 25, 2023, 12:04:03 PM
#35
I'm of the same opinion as many people said, it doesn't make sense to have another league when there is already a very tight schedule because of having many leagues in each season, imagine how difficult it must be for teams from England having to play in the premier league , there are 2 other leagues, there is a European champions league, a European league, you have to play for the England national team in friendly games, in qualifying games for the euro, in euro games, in qualifying games for the world cup, in the world cup games. This all tires the players a lot, see that a player has training from Monday to Friday and Saturday or Sunday has a game. In training, players run every day

So how long will the players have to rest? They won't have time to rest and as a consequence, when they get injured, they need to spend a long time recovering and this causes a lot of damage to the team, there are many teams that were very damaged because of the national teams' games. we just have to see next year what a headache it will be for the team coaches because next year there will be the African Cup of Nations games, whenever there is this tournament, the European teams are harmed because the African players return injured from that tournament, there is the Euro which is also another very important European competition that will cause many players to get injured and there is the CONMEBOL Copa América which is also a very important competition on the American continent and there will certainly be many injured players returning from this tournament
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December 25, 2023, 09:18:32 AM
#34
The plan to form The European Super League has resurfaced because the European Union Court decided that the European Super League (ESL) could continue. In this decision, the court supported the holding of the European Super League, the court also prohibited UEFA from giving sanctions to clubs participating in the European Super League competition, including sanctions prohibiting them from participating in the Champions League. This competition will be attended by big teams in Europe, there will be a Big Match game every week because it brings together big clubs.

In my opinion, there will be positive and negative sides if the European Super League competition is held, the players' energy will be increasingly drained because the competition the team they are playing for is increasing. They will be very vulnerable to injury if they are forced to play too much. Football fans will always have their eyes spoiled every each week because there will be a Big Match.
As a football fan, of course I support this competition. The big clubs that take part in the European Super League competition will have their focus divided between the Domestic League, Champions League and European Super League. This situation will provide an opportunity for clubs that were previously unable to compete in the domestic league to have the opportunity to win trophies.

The reintroduction of ESL to the football environment will have an extra consequence on the players. For one, the teams that'd participate in this league race are also teams doing well in their domestic leagues and taking part in the UCL and UEL too.
Currently the players are already going through the stress of having to play the league games over the weekend and then the Continental tournaments within the week and then, there's be scheduled international breaks. Being logical, when or how will the ESL be inputed in the weekly roster for a team, the bigger and better teams will be out.

 at a disadvantage as their focus will be on three ranges and it'll put extra stress to the players physical and mental state. It's an act very much liable to ensue game losses amongst teams and their whole confidence for other games can be affected.
I'd only advise that when some decisions are made, every area or perspective should be looked at closely so as to prevent making unfavorable decisions just because it favours a few section of people.
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December 25, 2023, 06:06:27 AM
#33
Currently, left two teams still support with The European Super League are Barcelona and Real Madrid, just waiting few months later if not get support from the other bigger teams I believe this competition will not any progress yet in the future.
First time announcing to the public many teams interested with good planning from The European Super League and how much money offering to the team participants make them interested with this super highest level competition in Europe, but UEFA not keep silent yet and they want loss compete and give warning for teams participants will remover and get suspended by UEFA, some teams leaves the European Super League afraid with suspended from UEFA and right now left Barcelona and Real Madrid likely can't continue this competition.
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December 24, 2023, 10:31:34 AM
#32
The plan to form The European Super League has resurfaced because the European Union Court decided that the European Super League (ESL) could continue. In this decision, the court supported the holding of the European Super League, the court also prohibited UEFA from giving sanctions to clubs participating in the European Super League competition, including sanctions prohibiting them from participating in the Champions League. This competition will be attended by big teams in Europe, there will be a Big Match game every week because it brings together big clubs.

In my opinion, there will be positive and negative sides if the European Super League competition is held, the players' energy will be increasingly drained because the competition the team they are playing for is increasing. They will be very vulnerable to injury if they are forced to play too much. Football fans will always have their eyes spoiled every each week because there will be a Big Match.
As a football fan, of course I support this competition. The big clubs that take part in the European Super League competition will have their focus divided between the Domestic League, Champions League and European Super League. This situation will provide an opportunity for clubs that were previously unable to compete in the domestic league to have the opportunity to win trophies.
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December 24, 2023, 10:04:36 AM
#31
No, it would replace the Champions League, but I don't really know whether I would like more games of the spectacular games. It reminds me of the UEFA Nations League when I sometimes caught myself that I couldn't even remember the winner from last time because I didn't watch the game. It is superfluous in my eyes. It is nice to have these huge games between the best teams in Europe only a few times a year. That's real exclusivity and everyone is looking forward to those games. This is the critical point, whether people will enjoy having those games on a weekly basis or whether it is more like Christmas when the KO stages begin in the Champions League.
UEFA president has reason why he dislike with European Super League because teams participants is top teams only and now allowed small or mediocre teams will get chance, he makes comparison if Girona and Atalanta finish on top fourth standings in their domestic league will not get chance for participating there. Actually if the participants on European Super League not priority with small teams but I want UEFA adopted fair financial compensation for all teams participants.
UEFA Champion League and other competition under UEFA controlling must be transparent with how much TV broadcast rights and sponsorship earned by UEFA and spent to all teams participants more bigger than commission earn by UEFA only.
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December 24, 2023, 09:39:40 AM
#30

It needs to be acknowledged that the European Super League's finances are bigger than FIFA and UEFA, that's an important note. And now FIFA and UEFA do not want the European Super League to become a competitor to the UCL. That's what I understand from the current rejection. Just imagine, before each team started the match, they had already made a profit of more than 200 million Euros and that was bigger than the prize for winning the UCL which was only around 80 million Euros. Like it or not, every club really needs additional funds periodically to increase financial stability.

Napoli made the right decision and agreed to join. Then Barcelona also benefits, especially now that their finances are worrying, they feel helped by having new competition without paying a penny and then getting a profit up front. Realistically, if clubs in Europe want to join, the European Super League is divided into several categories with a very reasonable system so that each division gets the same financial assistance to improve the quality of players.

Currently many clubs are refusing, but I'm sure ESL will continue to lobby, and don't forget that FIFA and UEFA must remember who Florentino Perez is. Roll Eyes
Football has gone beyond just passion to the finances. And as it’s said no business flourishes without finance. Yea, there were rumors of ESL which got UEFA shaking and now it seems that the rumors are getting true as the movement to get the maiden edition is on and we’ve most clubs still against it but some clubs are in for it. Which means that there's still hope for the league to become a reality in times to come.

 Yes, the finance from there is pretty tempting and that’s one factor most of these clubs consider because it’ll help them in recruiting more players, Florentino Perez is one hell of a business guru that knows how to get what he wants and get the profits too and that’s one major reason I don’t think the European Super League competition will die anytime soon, even though many top clubs have rejected joining the league.
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December 23, 2023, 03:49:51 PM
#29
Football fans, what's your view of the European Super League?
The format will be a total of 64 teams divided into 3 divisions (Star, Gold and Blue)
Each team plays 14 matches (7 home and 7 away matches).
Not only will this competition put big clubs against each other each match week, but it will also give these teams a lot of money. A lot of these clubs need money. It's normal for most English clubs to reject this because they are allowed to spend more money than the other leagues in Europe.
There are a couple of things I still do not understand yet. Would these teams still play in the champions league?

What do y'all think? Is the Super League possible and do you support it? What are your reasons for supporting or not supporting it?

No, it would replace the Champions League, but I don't really know whether I would like more games of the spectacular games. It reminds me of the UEFA Nations League when I sometimes caught myself that I couldn't even remember the winner from last time because I didn't watch the game. It is superfluous in my eyes. It is nice to have these huge games between the best teams in Europe only a few times a year. That's real exclusivity and everyone is looking forward to those games. This is the critical point, whether people will enjoy having those games on a weekly basis or whether it is more like Christmas when the KO stages begin in the Champions League.
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December 23, 2023, 03:42:50 PM
#28
Football fans, what's your view of the European Super League?
The format will be a total of 64 teams divided into 3 divisions (Star, Gold and Blue)
Each team plays 14 matches (7 home and 7 away matches).
Not only will this competition put big clubs against each other each match week, but it will also give these teams a lot of money. A lot of these clubs need money. It's normal for most English clubs to reject this because they are allowed to spend more money than the other leagues in Europe.
There are a couple of things I still do not understand yet. Would these teams still play in the champions league?

What do y'all think? Is the Super League possible and do you support it? What are your reasons for supporting or not supporting it?

I am not supporting it like most of the high class figures in the UEFA government.They say that there is no reason to have another European Super League which would be senseless and I fully agree with them.The teams and players are already tired with all the fixtures in Champions League,Europa League and Europa Conference League and all the domestic leagues where they play and adding another ESL would be pointless as it would not attract more than the audience that this sport already have.

They can say Gold,Star and Blue just as marketing terms but the reality is that of what I described above which would add nothing to the European competitions.
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December 23, 2023, 03:16:13 PM
#27
What I know from the football media news is that only Barcelona, Real Madrid and Napoli joined the others refused.

As reported by Fabrzio Romano, many clubs have refused this Super League.
He said the broadcast of super league matches would be free to stream.

From what I understand, Napoli is not included, and I think their position is unknown for now. It would've been 3 clubs (Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus) swinging their hats for the ESL. The old ladies pulled out following the resignation of their former chairman Andrea Agnelli, who was a staunch supporter. So as it stands now, it's only 2 clubs that have thrown their support. Following the european court of justice ruling on the ESL, United was the first club to issue a public statement distancing itself from the ESL. Other clubs like Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid, City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham have also come out to reject the league.
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December 23, 2023, 11:20:15 AM
#26
it would definitely be very exciting to see big european teams playing every week with a league format like this, but it seems that this will not be possible. the first reason is that these teams already have busy schedules in their respective leagues. secondly, players and officials need to rest, because rest is part of training and they cannot do other activities outside of their rest. and thirdly, to hold each match requires funds and sponsors, with so many matches each week it will not be possible for sponsors to participate in each match due to their limited funds, so it is likely that the league will not get sufficient funds.

the current match format has been carefully considered by uefa, so it already follows various rules, so there is no need to add a new league.
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December 23, 2023, 11:07:35 AM
#25
Did you see latest statement from UEFA president Aleksander Ceferin talked about

"We have never tried to stop the project. They can do whatever they want, I hope they start as soon as possible with two clubs. I hope they know what they are doing, but I am not sure. Football is not for sale."

Its so funny about about what his said football is not for sale but UEFA made many competition every years between national teams and club competition with UEFA get more profitable trough television broadcasting rights and sponsorship, with present of The European Super League will make team earn based on equal distribution of broadcasting rights and sponsorship with a very large amount compared to competitions held by UEFA such as the Champions League or Europe League. But disappointed respond with many top European teams rejected with ideas The European Super League with fantastic income due participants but many of teams have announce not will participants.

https://www.goal.com/en/lists/european-super-league-uefa-fse-aleksander-ceferin/blt10695e6244c9a1ef#cs9f3f3dcfff0a2439
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December 23, 2023, 12:34:15 AM
#24
This European super league to me is unnecessary, these players are already occupied with many competition's almost in every week both international and national games with a whole lot of them suffering from fatigue and injuries as a result of the tight matches  schedules.
You have a point, The Super League will only complicate things for the players and nothing more, most teams participating in the Champions League and some other domestic competitions are bitterly complaining about too much activity for the players every week, for these teams they need enough squad depth so the players don’t suffer from fatigue and injuries and despite that squad depth is not enough to prevent fatigue. If the Super League is being implemented it will affect alot of teams negatively when competing in their home domestic leagues because of tight schedule of matches.

A question i have in mind is how will the Super League fixtures be? What days of the week do they plan to fix the matches as every other competitions have occupied the week already or do they plan to cancel the Champions League?

I hear and I don't know if it's a rumor or it's true that some teams are rejecting it and they are justified because from what I see here in my own perspective is that the football body just drafting out another form of making money from this so-called super league. Let's also consider the fitness and stability of the players too and not just about the competitions after competition's
I see lots of teams rejecting it probably because they don’t see the point of the competition, what difference will it have compared to the Champions League?

It is obviously another form of generating money, the Super League is really not necessary.
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December 22, 2023, 11:40:14 PM
#23
What I know from the football media news is that only Barcelona, Real Madrid and Napoli joined the others refused.

Then this is about the financial benefits that make this super league, if this tournament really happens then the benefits of Barcelona and Real Madrid will get fresh funds including Barcelona will get out of their financial downturn, obviously this is just speculation.

As reported by Fabrzio Romano, many clubs have refused this Super League.
He said the broadcast of super league matches would be free to stream.  Shocked
It needs to be acknowledged that the European Super League's finances are bigger than FIFA and UEFA, that's an important note. And now FIFA and UEFA do not want the European Super League to become a competitor to the UCL. That's what I understand from the current rejection. Just imagine, before each team started the match, they had already made a profit of more than 200 million Euros and that was bigger than the prize for winning the UCL which was only around 80 million Euros. Like it or not, every club really needs additional funds periodically to increase financial stability.

Napoli made the right decision and agreed to join. Then Barcelona also benefits, especially now that their finances are worrying, they feel helped by having new competition without paying a penny and then getting a profit up front. Realistically, if clubs in Europe want to join, the European Super League is divided into several categories with a very reasonable system so that each division gets the same financial assistance to improve the quality of players.

Currently many clubs are refusing, but I'm sure ESL will continue to lobby, and don't forget that FIFA and UEFA must remember who Florentino Perez is. Roll Eyes
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December 22, 2023, 09:22:31 PM
#22
What I know from the football media news is that only Barcelona, Real Madrid and Napoli joined the others refused.

Then this is about the financial benefits that make this super league, if this tournament really happens then the benefits of Barcelona and Real Madrid will get fresh funds including Barcelona will get out of their financial downturn, obviously this is just speculation.

As reported by Fabrzio Romano, many clubs have refused this Super League.
He said the broadcast of super league matches would be free to stream.  Shocked
The existence of the super league would have become one do the essential league we have in Europe but it turn out that most elite clubs have pick no interest. Keeping oneself updated about the system and ensuring you follow the right update and not settle for lesser scores. You're right, the vast majority have decline the proposals to join the super league because they feel its weigh out of line and this might attracts punishment from FIFA, possibly a ban from top football related bodies. What are you talking about, Real Madrid and Barcelona are the main founding clubs of the super league and they're ready to take the league to a whole fresh new level in football.
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December 22, 2023, 08:14:17 PM
#21
What I know from the football media news is that only Barcelona, Real Madrid and Napoli joined the others refused.

Then this is about the financial benefits that make this super league, if this tournament really happens then the benefits of Barcelona and Real Madrid will get fresh funds including Barcelona will get out of their financial downturn, obviously this is just speculation.

As reported by Fabrzio Romano, many clubs have refused this Super League.
He said the broadcast of super league matches would be free to stream.  Shocked
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