Good to have more competition really but what I don't quite understand is why there are so many leagues now.
Why won't top leagues among Europe get together and make something with athletic skill based and performance qualifying criteria that equally benefits all teams small and big is beyond me. Seems like everyone is after the money of football at this point and we have just seen football splitting into too many international leagues which gets confusing and hard to follow.
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There are a couple of things I still do not understand yet. Would these teams still play in the champions league?
We have to wait to see the reaction of FIFA and UEFA. These organizations know that the Super League is a threat to their dominance in football. UEFA had already amended its rules to make it very difficult for clubs to play in the Super League. And they will do everything possible to stop the progress of the Super League. I am just guessing that these teams will be barred from competing in any UEFA-organised competition.
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What do y'all think? Is the Super League possible and do you support it? What are your reasons for supporting or not supporting it?
From the ruling of the European Court of Justice (ECJ), the European Super League (ESL) is here to stay. The court just gave the organisers of the Super League freedom to start the competition. I know that the two clubs that are fully supporting the ESL are Barcelona and Real Madrid. Some analysts assume that these teams have financial problems and this league will be a great opportunity to make more money. Most clubs in the top Leagues including former supporters like Atletico Madrid and Manchester United, have rejected the ruling. Which means they might not have enough clubs to compete.
I don't support the ESL because it will further widen the financial gap between top clubs and average of low-placed clubs. Since only top clubs will financially benefit from the league, other clubs will keep suffering from budget deficits.
Forget the monetary benefits, I don't think a new european tournament is necessary. These players are human beings and they're already involved in domestic, european, and international games, adding a new league would stress them out.
For instance, England has 3 domestic tournaments and the european tournaments (champions league, europa league, conference league). Meaning that a club that finishes in the top 7 must play in 4 tournaments. Other european nations have 2 - 3 domestic and the european tournaments. Adding a new european tournament would increase the total number of tournaments by plus one and it would cause more fatigue in the team.
For instance, England has 3 domestic tournaments and the european tournaments (champions league, europa league, conference league). Meaning that a club that finishes in the top 7 must play in 4 tournaments. Other european nations have 2 - 3 domestic and the european tournaments. Adding a new european tournament would increase the total number of tournaments by plus one and it would cause more fatigue in the team.
It looks like the European Super League will be like this after the last statements by so many European teams.
Every top team have been just announcing that they don't think about leaving UEFA competitions and preferring the European Super League over them. The new format for this new tournament has been announced by the way but it doesn't matter much anymore. I wouldn't expect it to be underway with only a couple of teams either because it is a project planned with quite many teams. I expect this project to be cancelled some time later.
Other big teams from EU might join it "if" the offer is too good to refuse. But Im sure the plan will be failed "again" after UEFA threat all clubs with new sanctions.
The concepts of Super League have been brought by many European clubs since 1968 but always failed to achieve popular approval.
The concepts of Super League have been brought by many European clubs since 1968 but always failed to achieve popular approval.
It will not happen even before it starts, everyone is already against it, the only team that I can think of is Real Madrid who wants this, nobody else wants it. I get the request, every team that goes to UCL group stages gets a ton of money, and Perez wanted Real Madrid to get a lot more, which I can understand.
With the new setup, teams like Real or City, will play 8 games at the UCL, instead of 6, and then last sixteen 2 games, then quarter finals 2 games, then semi finals 2 games, and finals 1 game. That's a total of 15 games, with the league being 38 games as well, so that is 53 games, then super cup (europa and ucl winners) that's 54, then club world cup, that's at least another 4-5 games, that's nearing 60, then the domestic cup, at least 5-6 more there, so that's 65 games, then the super cup of the domestic, and there are national games as well, both continental or world cups, that's between qualifiers and the games itself.
We are talking about players getting 75 games or so per year. So Real just wanted more money, that's it, which is understandable.
With the new setup, teams like Real or City, will play 8 games at the UCL, instead of 6, and then last sixteen 2 games, then quarter finals 2 games, then semi finals 2 games, and finals 1 game. That's a total of 15 games, with the league being 38 games as well, so that is 53 games, then super cup (europa and ucl winners) that's 54, then club world cup, that's at least another 4-5 games, that's nearing 60, then the domestic cup, at least 5-6 more there, so that's 65 games, then the super cup of the domestic, and there are national games as well, both continental or world cups, that's between qualifiers and the games itself.
We are talking about players getting 75 games or so per year. So Real just wanted more money, that's it, which is understandable.
I think this wasn't bad idea to begin with but I don't want national leagues to be totally terminated. We needed some sort of European super league for so long because champions league isnt enough for proper football fan. I guess English teams will all have bad time joining this super league because English football federation didn't give permission to them. I still feel like uefa can come up with idea basically transforming champions league similar to what rich teams expected from European Super League.
So far, Real Madrid and Barcelona seem to be the only ones supporting this so-called Super League. Most other clubs want nothing to do with it. You gotta wonder - do they really think they can get this thing off the ground with just two teams?! I mean, who's gonna play in this league? Just Barça and Los Blancos going head-to-head every weekend? As interesting as El Clasico is, I think fans would get sick of it real fast if that's all there was.
I would be massively against it if UEFA and national FA’s stopped state buyouts like PSG, Man City and Newcastle. Everybody hates the Super League because it apparently destroys fair competition. Allowing blood regimes to sports wash and cheat FFP is worse and it is exactly what Man City, PSG and Newcastle do. Crappy little clubs coming from nowhere to win trophies is a joke.
If the Super League levels the playing field and allows legacy clubs like Real, Barca, both Milan clubs, Liverpool, Man Utd, Juventus etc to compete with the murderous, petro dollars of those State owned clubs then so be it.
Man City got off on a technicality in their UEFA charges. They now have 115 pending charges with the PL in England. My club Liverpool would have 2 or 3 more PL titles if it wasn’t for these cheating clubs. So if the Super League allowed Liverpool much more money to compete with these cheating, oil clubs then I am all for it.
If the Super League levels the playing field and allows legacy clubs like Real, Barca, both Milan clubs, Liverpool, Man Utd, Juventus etc to compete with the murderous, petro dollars of those State owned clubs then so be it.
Man City got off on a technicality in their UEFA charges. They now have 115 pending charges with the PL in England. My club Liverpool would have 2 or 3 more PL titles if it wasn’t for these cheating clubs. So if the Super League allowed Liverpool much more money to compete with these cheating, oil clubs then I am all for it.
this idea is very fascinating, a tournament that seems more like something out of a videogame than a real competition in real life.
I wonder if this will actually also guarantee access to this type of competition for "smaller teams".
It would be sad to see only a championship of rich teams....
the aspect linked to betting is very interesting as teams could play with "junior teams" in their home leagues ... aim exclusively to win this competition
I wonder if this will actually also guarantee access to this type of competition for "smaller teams".
It would be sad to see only a championship of rich teams....
the aspect linked to betting is very interesting as teams could play with "junior teams" in their home leagues ... aim exclusively to win this competition
The European Super League seems quite interesting because it will involve more team and of course there can be matches almost every time.
However, it seems there are quite lot of big teams who have rejected it and of course this could have big impact on each team if they have to take part in this competition.
Just imagine the match schedule will increase and of course the players performance will decrease.
Every big team that clearly has all the players is almost all great players and playing in just three competitions they seem to have experienced decline in one of the competitions, especially since there is European Super League which involves more matches.
I myself would not consider the European Super League to be the best competition because in my opinion the most awaited and always interested competition is the UEFA Champions League.
But I don't know for some people out there, when it comes to sports betting, it might be very profitable because the more matches there are, the more opportunities that can be taken advantage of.
It just that this isn't just about betting and there seems to be lot of bad talk about the European Super League among football fans.
However, it seems there are quite lot of big teams who have rejected it and of course this could have big impact on each team if they have to take part in this competition.
Just imagine the match schedule will increase and of course the players performance will decrease.
Every big team that clearly has all the players is almost all great players and playing in just three competitions they seem to have experienced decline in one of the competitions, especially since there is European Super League which involves more matches.
I myself would not consider the European Super League to be the best competition because in my opinion the most awaited and always interested competition is the UEFA Champions League.
But I don't know for some people out there, when it comes to sports betting, it might be very profitable because the more matches there are, the more opportunities that can be taken advantage of.
It just that this isn't just about betting and there seems to be lot of bad talk about the European Super League among football fans.
There are a couple of things I still do not understand yet. Would these teams still play in the champions league?
Didn't the UEFA ban for clubs being judged as unlawful recently? If that's the case, the team might still participate but I'm sure UEFA would find another way to make them leave ESL and stick with Champions League instead. At the end of the day, all of this is happening because of money. The founding clubs are basically trying to earn more money/stable income, especially if they don't qualify for the Champions League which can limit their spending. From what I understood so far, in the latest format, their privilege of staying on top of the league is still guaranteed even if there is promotion and relegation since there is an extra clause that merit is included in their evaluation, basically the same thing as before. If they can make it more competitive, and at the same time don't overshadow their national league, criticism might not be as strong as what currently exists.I don't think this league will ever happen. A major overhaul needed to happen if they really want to incentivize Premier League clubs to join this without any strong opposition from their fans. As for Spanish/Italian clubs etc, this can be a sign for them to improve their business model so that they can compete with the PL.
This European super league to me is unnecessary, these players are already occupied with many competition's almost in every week both international and national games with a whole lot of them suffering from fatigue and injuries as a result of the tight matches schedules.
I hear and I don't know if it's a rumor or it's true that some teams are rejecting it and they are justified because from what I see here in my own perspective is that the football body just drafting out another form of making money from this so-called super league. Let's also consider the fitness and stability of the players too and not just about the competitions after competition's
Somewhere 2021, this super League of a thing came to the timeline and there was some controversies then and I thought everything has been resolved. I am so surprised that this has sufficed again but what I really like this time is the consistency of decision. I hear and I don't know if it's a rumor or it's true that some teams are rejecting it and they are justified because from what I see here in my own perspective is that the football body just drafting out another form of making money from this so-called super league. Let's also consider the fitness and stability of the players too and not just about the competitions after competition's
When this matter came up, some of the big clubs across Europe rejected the idea and now that the idea is resurfaced and amidst the controversy and tempting financial offer, these big clubs are not still buying into the idea. These clubs are Manchester United, Bayern Munich, Manchester City, Chelsea. Infact the English premier League is against the super League idea. I don't know how this will work when big names are rejecting it.
Seems The European Super League have been over after many teams rejected with this competition model and latest news have Manchester United and Chelsea not agree with this model of competition. Actually I like the ideas of The European Super League because they have earned much money and spent for all teams participants difference with UEFA Champion League or other European competition provide compensation funds with small amount and UEFA get more benefit with sponsorship than with how much earned by all teams participants.
I think bad ideas when The European Super League give huge amount for all participants than their participated in Champion League but they won't playing with most competitive league schedule and get much benefit.
I think have positive side with The European Super League and all teams participants can comparison how much compensation funds earned between Champion League or European Super League because in the football modern era money is most important thing.
I think bad ideas when The European Super League give huge amount for all participants than their participated in Champion League but they won't playing with most competitive league schedule and get much benefit.
I think have positive side with The European Super League and all teams participants can comparison how much compensation funds earned between Champion League or European Super League because in the football modern era money is most important thing.
(...)What do y'all think? Is the Super League possible and do you support it? What are your reasons for supporting or not supporting it?
I've heard a lot of arguments, but it seems like everyone on either side has their own stance. IMO, I want to be neutral on the watcher side because having a new tournament is great because people have more choices, but in terms of professional quality, I also agree that the players compete. Playing too many national and continental tournaments will somewhat affect the calculations. Perhaps there will be some benefits and risks if this happens. Anyway, the judgment belongs to the people involved. We only hope for good things for football development, so any proposed direction should have consensus from many sides, not simply individual opinions. There are a couple of things I still do not understand yet. Would these teams still play in the champions league?
What do y'all think? Is the Super League possible and do you support it? What are your reasons for supporting or not supporting it?
In my opinion, Europe, especially UEFA, cannot reject the existence of the European Super League, because after all this will provide many benefits, namely that competition in the European Super League is free of charge. In this case, the president of the European Super League Florentino Pérez wants to recreate clean football and indeed aims to return the world of football to its proper place where all clubs benefit from this competition. Meanwhile, currently several Domestic Leagues are still refusing to contribute but will they let the profits that are in sight, which have a big impact on the club progress from a financial perspective, be left to chance? Clubs that need large funds must not refuse this opportunity if they want the club financial condition to improve. In the end, if they are successful, they can advance the club by buying quality players and improving the facilities the team needs. Or are some clubs in the Domestic League worried that if the European Super League occurs, their power at the top of the standings will be threatened?What do y'all think? Is the Super League possible and do you support it? What are your reasons for supporting or not supporting it?
So far I don't have a problem with the existence of the European Super League if it has a positive impact on the club's future, because without stable finances a club will only end tragically.
I don't even support this. The creator of ESL super league has their own agenda. This is also the main reason several big clubs have been very vocal in rejecting that competition https://www.goal.com/en/lists/man-utd-join-bayern-munich-atletico-madrid-ieuropean-super-league-after-latest-ruling/bltf513c61a1b55da3d#cs66206d517fc0ee85
They are still complying with UEFA law. I will not even try to support this and i will put this into my ignore list. I completely agree with certain English Premier League clubs that have taken the initiative to reject the introduction of this new competition on the European continent.
The better thing to dedicate it for the small clubs then they can get additional income from participated in the ESL. I hope all of the big clubs will be rejecting it.
I see no reason to participate in the ESL.
They are still complying with UEFA law. I will not even try to support this and i will put this into my ignore list. I completely agree with certain English Premier League clubs that have taken the initiative to reject the introduction of this new competition on the European continent.
The better thing to dedicate it for the small clubs then they can get additional income from participated in the ESL. I hope all of the big clubs will be rejecting it.
I see no reason to participate in the ESL.
Football fans, what's your view of the European Super League?
The format will be a total of 64 teams divided into 3 divisions (Star, Gold and Blue)
Each team plays 14 matches (7 home and 7 away matches).
Not only will this competition put big clubs against each other each match week, but it will also give these teams a lot of money. A lot of these clubs need money. It's normal for most English clubs to reject this because they are allowed to spend more money than the other leagues in Europe.
There are a couple of things I still do not understand yet. Would these teams still play in the champions league?
What do y'all think? Is the Super League possible and do you support it? What are your reasons for supporting or not supporting it?
The format will be a total of 64 teams divided into 3 divisions (Star, Gold and Blue)
Each team plays 14 matches (7 home and 7 away matches).
Not only will this competition put big clubs against each other each match week, but it will also give these teams a lot of money. A lot of these clubs need money. It's normal for most English clubs to reject this because they are allowed to spend more money than the other leagues in Europe.
There are a couple of things I still do not understand yet. Would these teams still play in the champions league?
What do y'all think? Is the Super League possible and do you support it? What are your reasons for supporting or not supporting it?
the european super league is the initiation of a big club that has a lot of money. of course the club from the primiere league must join it and the fan base and audience of the English league club is large if there is no of course it will reduce revenue from audience advertising etc. which of course a business reward is yes from advertising revenue without advertising the competition will not be able to run.
And even if there is competition, there will be great friction with the champion league the highest club competition in Europe.
This European super league to me is unnecessary, these players are already occupied with many competition's almost in every week both international and national games with a whole lot of them suffering from fatigue and injuries as a result of the tight matches schedules.
I hear and I don't know if it's a rumor or it's true that some teams are rejecting it and they are justified because from what I see here in my own perspective is that the football body just drafting out another form of making money from this so-called super league. Let's also consider the fitness and stability of the players too and not just about the competitions after competition's
I hear and I don't know if it's a rumor or it's true that some teams are rejecting it and they are justified because from what I see here in my own perspective is that the football body just drafting out another form of making money from this so-called super league. Let's also consider the fitness and stability of the players too and not just about the competitions after competition's
Football fans, what's your view of the European Super League?
The format will be a total of 64 teams divided into 3 divisions (Star, Gold and Blue)
Each team plays 14 matches (7 home and 7 away matches).
Not only will this competition put big clubs against each other each match week, but it will also give these teams a lot of money. A lot of these clubs need money. It's normal for most English clubs to reject this because they are allowed to spend more money than the other leagues in Europe.
There are a couple of things I still do not understand yet. Would these teams still play in the champions league?
What do y'all think? Is the Super League possible and do you support it? What are your reasons for supporting or not supporting it?
The format will be a total of 64 teams divided into 3 divisions (Star, Gold and Blue)
Each team plays 14 matches (7 home and 7 away matches).
Not only will this competition put big clubs against each other each match week, but it will also give these teams a lot of money. A lot of these clubs need money. It's normal for most English clubs to reject this because they are allowed to spend more money than the other leagues in Europe.
There are a couple of things I still do not understand yet. Would these teams still play in the champions league?
What do y'all think? Is the Super League possible and do you support it? What are your reasons for supporting or not supporting it?
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