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Topic: The fact that B-EX.IO is being scammed, please all exchanges be wary of such fra - page 2. (Read 20663 times)

full member
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I'm involved with the vTorrent (VTR) project and know many of our members have been using b-ex to trade.

I'll give b-ex.io a chance to respond here, but unless this exchange proves it will actually process user withdrawals, I'm going to be warning everyone who is trading VTR there to move their VTR off the exchange and look for somewhere else to trade VTR. The way they have treated this user's case so far makes me fearful to ever put any coins on there.
newbie
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What ended up happening with this

They are still holding it, so I’ll be making a judgement about how to proceed with this on Tuesday, August 21st. I already told them this via email yesterday. It takes approximately 5 minutes to process a withdrawal and they’ve been withholding it from me for over a week already, so that gives them plenty of time/opportunity to withdraw my funds before I look into taking further action.

Evanito, I appreciate it. I may contact you after Tuesday if it ends up being necessary.
newbie
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What ended up happening with this
member
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Your average Bitcoin/Ethereum enthusiast
Also Troyleroy, if you need help with that (filing a CSRC/police claim) I will help you with it. Message me.
member
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Merit: 10
Your average Bitcoin/Ethereum enthusiast
They titled this thread “The b-ex.io exchange is being scammed.”  Roll Eyes That’s hilarious. How much money has troyleroy76 “scammed” from you b-ex.io? Exactly $0. Meanwhile, here you are refusing to give him back his UFR tokens.

If they continue to refuse to withdraw or ask you for more apologies before returning your funds (which is totally illegal), file a legal suit with the Securities and Futures Commission of Hong Kong and the China Securities Regulatory Commission (CSRC). Ask them to read these threads and determine the legality of b-ex.io's actions for themselves.
newbie
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Well, it's been 48 hours like they said and nothing. They are still holding my 2nd withdrawal of 140,000 UFR hostage and are using it to try to force me to apologize more. Extremely unprofessional.
member
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Hey troyleroy,

If they don’t process your withdrawal or keep asking you to do these stupid apologies I’ll just contact the UFR team and let them know, they should be able to force-move your UFR from their address for you.
newbie
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Also, regarding the original 340,000 UFR: One issue at a time. We can work out what happened there after this 140,000 UFR withdrawal is processed by b-ex.io, as at least these funds are still in their main exchange address. I apologized like they asked - I expect that they will keep their word in this thread and withdraw my 140,000 UFR within 48 hours like they said.
member
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Merit: 100
Following troyleroy's ethereum address at 0x83b8913dfeaaad5c0938b481cdfb278a4b3a809c, he transferred 486,546.1936 to the exchange 16 days ago. The exchange still holds 139,980.132 UFR of his coins in their main address here: https://etherscan.io/address/0xd98c6b6804bd6296a4c4a83290ab117de30481a4

Read the entire thread. Hope they return your funds, man. 
full member
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Merit: 100
You need to process this user's withdrawal and pay the customer their UFR back.
sr. member
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This exchange not working.
legendary
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Owner at AltQuick.com
I had something similar go on: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2744469

The service refunded my coins because if they didn't... they were actually the bad guys.

You should processes their refund ASAP regardless of their post. $70,000 is dust compared to how to handle this situation. 
legendary
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Owner at AltQuick.com
newbie
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Merit: 0
Thank you for the person who messaged this thread to me on Reddit.

Hi B-ex.io,

I am the user from the post waiting on your withdrawal (troyleroy76 on reddit) to my UFR address at 0x83b8913dfeaaad5c0938b481cdfb278a4b3a809c. I hope you choose to stick to your word that you will correctly withdraw the portion of my funds that you still have on your exchange if I apologize, so here it is:

I apologize. I am sorry if you feel the reddit thread hurt your reputation. I will gladly make another update post on Reddit’s /r/cryptocurrency once I receive my withdrawal and say that you followed up and corrected the situation by withdrawing the rest of my funds. Once again, this is my public apology for that.

Hello, we are very happy to communicate with you in public. We are always waiting to you to process the 140,000 UFR withdrawal request. We take every customer's withdrawal seriously, because it is related to the user's financial security and our reputation.
We hope to see your public apology on reddit because of previous reputational violations. Not only the 140,000 UFR withdrawal request (because we never intended to detain any user's funds, but also corrected the UFR users after discovering the system bug), and there are questions about 340,000 UFR, we don't know what happened here. We just made the withdrawal according to the application address. If you still insist that we have stolen your funds, you can ask the legal department for help, but please stop this community language attack, because this kind of attack will not help you to find the funds. If you need our assistance to help you recover your money, we are willing to provide any support.
Also, please reply to bexioex in your Reddit post to make sure you are the author.
We will process your 14W UFR withdrawal request 48 hours after seeing your Reddit apologize. Also, when we process it for you, I hope you don't delete the apology.
Once again, if you need any assistance from us to help you recover your money, please let us know.
Please forgive me for using lame English.

妳好,我們很高興與您在公開場所交流。我們壹直都在等待為妳處理14萬UFR的提款申請,我們認真對待每壹位用戶的提款,因為這關系到用戶的資金安全和我們的聲譽。
我們希望在Reddit上看到您的公開道歉,因為此前的聲譽侵害。不僅僅是14萬UFR的提款申請(因為我們從來無意扣留任何用戶的資金,並在發現系統BUG後為UFR用戶進行了糾正),還有關於34萬UFR的問題,我們不知道這裏發生了什麽,我們只是按照申請地址進行了提款。如果您仍然堅持是我們偷了妳的資金,您可以向法律部門尋求幫助,但是請停止這種社區語言攻擊,因為這種攻擊,不會對您找回資金有任何的幫助。如果妳需要我們的協助以幫助您找回資金,我們願意提供任何支持。
另外,請您在您的Reddit帖子中回復bexioex,以確定您就是作者。
我們將在看到您的Reddit道歉48個小時後,為您處理14W UFR的提款申請。另外,當我們為您處理後,希望您不要刪除道歉。
再壹次,如果妳需要我們的任何協助以幫助您找回資金,請告訴我們。
newbie
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Thank you for the person who messaged this thread to me on Reddit.

Hi B-ex.io,

I am the user from the post waiting on your withdrawal (troyleroy76 on reddit) to my UFR address at 0x83b8913dfeaaad5c0938b481cdfb278a4b3a809c. I hope you choose to stick to your word that you will correctly withdraw the portion of my funds that you still have on your exchange if I apologize, so here it is:

I apologize. I am sorry if you feel the reddit thread hurt your reputation. I will gladly make another update post on Reddit’s /r/cryptocurrency once I receive my withdrawal and say that you followed up and corrected the situation by withdrawing the rest of my funds. Once again, this is my public apology for that.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
So let me get this straight. This author of that reddit post complained that you, the B-EX.IO exchange, incorrectly processed his first withdrawal, and your response to that was to refuse to process his second withdrawal??? That is not ok to do. 

Maybe the author would apologize publicly if you withdraw his money to him, but why would he apologize if you are still holding his money? That's not how apologies work. Like every other poster here said you cannot make users do something by holding their own funds over their head. You are not "bowing to him" by withdrawing his money, you are completing your obligation as a legitimate business and you need to do it or nobody will trust you.

First please allow me to lame English. Thank you for your attention. We disagree with you.
If we withdraw money for him, regardless of right and wrong, That will bring such consequences: more people will resort to this kind of fraud, because whether they succeed or not, None of them will lose anything (Send a post, the exchange will unconditionally withdraw) and don't have to be responsible for their actions (creating rumors without any apology).
But we believe that the consequences of fraud should be a single option: get money back (apologize) or lose money (no apology). Just as the law protects only legitimate citizens, the obligations of a business should not be opened to the fraudster, at least until he apologizes, and we decide to retain that obligation for the time being.
My post has already exposed the reddit author's scam, and if people still choose not to trust us, we have nothing to say. But we think that if we are to compromise with fraudsters to win the trust of people, this kind of enterprise will lose the meaning of existence, because they will not make any meaningful contribution to society. Just for their own profits to allow crime, this behavior is absolutely undesirable.
首先請允許我用蹩腳的英語回復您。謝謝您的關註。我們不認同妳的觀點。
如果我們不分是非的壹味地執行自己的義務向他提款,那將會帶來這樣的後果:有更多的人會實施這種詐騙手段,因為他們不管成功與否,他們都不會有任何損失(發壹篇帖子,交易所就會無條件的提款),並且不用對自己的行為負責(制造謠言而不用任何的道歉)。
但是我們認為,實施詐騙的後果應該是壹個單項選擇:拿回金錢(道歉)或者損失金錢(不道歉)。就像法律只保護合法公民壹樣,壹個企業該履行的義務也不應該向詐騙犯打開,至少在他做出道歉之前,我們決定暫時保留這種義務。
我的帖子中已經壹壹揭露了reddit作者的騙局,如果人們依然選擇不信任我們,那麽我們也無話可說。但是我們認為,如果要用向詐騙犯妥協的方法博取人們的信任,這種企業將失去存在的意義,因為他們不會對社會做出任何有意義的貢獻,只是為了自己的盈利就任由犯罪橫行,這種行為是絕對不可取的。
full member
Activity: 128
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So let me get this straight. This author of that reddit post complained that you, the B-EX.IO exchange, incorrectly processed his first withdrawal, and your response to that was to refuse to process his second withdrawal??? That is not ok to do. 

Maybe the author would apologize publicly if you withdraw his money to him, but why would he apologize if you are still holding his money? That's not how apologies work. Like every other poster here said you cannot make users do something by holding their own funds over their head. You are not "bowing to him" by withdrawing his money, you are completing your obligation as a legitimate business and you need to do it or nobody will trust you.
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