The Faketoshi saga is now coming to a close...

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That tweet aside, there was nothing presented as proof in any of his evidence that support he is Satoshi. He does not even have the private keys from the addresses that are known to be associated with Satoshi. He did a lot of talking but he never provided anything that could prove he is Satoshi. It would be interesting to know what he wrote in that tweet you refer to.

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on March 17, 2024, 03:25:14 PM

I sure can't say this comes to any surprise, and my only question is how people become so caught up in a web of lies that is honestly very easy to see thought. I guess I shouldn't be surprised by it, just look at how many shitcoin scams people have fallen for and continue to fall for. People don't see to want to learn, which is the amazing aspect of it all.

Craig has proven to me personally that he's not Satoshi by some tweet he made ousting himself. He's a fool and glad everyone will know now (though some will still believe him, I'm sure).

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on March 17, 2024, 02:49:29 PM

But he should stop his madness, before he got the label as the "crazy guy" in crypto world. Or he's been already is known to a lot as the crazy one. Grin

There is now the basis for his madness and for being imaginative. If the time comes and that he won't stop, people will just throw the decision of the court.

That's much better preference as there's the basis and it's the court that had told him to stop him being crazy and it is nonsense to make people believe that he's satoshi.

And it's not just being told by the courts but has been spread quickly by the publications.

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I sure can't say this comes to any surprise, and my only question is how people become so caught up in a web of lies that is honestly very easy to see thought. I guess I shouldn't be surprised by it, just look at how many shitcoin scams people have fallen for and continue to fall for. People don't see to want to learn, which is the amazing aspect of it all.

Craig has proven to me personally that he's not Satoshi by some tweet he made ousting himself. He's a fool and glad everyone will know now (though some will still believe him, I'm sure).

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Without doubt it was an impossible task to convince all the people that he was Satoshi. He must have known that before he embarked on his journey to get involved with various litigation around the world yet he went on to do it. Whoever it is/was behind him providing financial support to bankroll his agenda cannot have endless pockets.

He will not receive any intellectual property with regards to Bitcoin therefore maybe the ruling is a wake up call for him and his supporters to realise now is a good time to stop this charade.

Quote from: NeuroticFish on March 17, 2024, 02:34:06 PM

He had some successes - from intimidating devs to quit, to the point when a judge ruled that Cobra has to filter UK users from accessing the whitepaper at bitcoin.org.
I expect that he thought that his bullshitting will convince eventually everybody, at least until the point he gets the patents he wanted.
There may also be that he didn't want to go this far, he expected to only con some non-technical rich peeps to get an easy life, but it all went on with his backer(s) pushing him into this... shit show.

I really hope it's over.

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Is it really time to say: finally!? While I hope so, I'm not yet fully confident until this Faketoshi got his due punishment for all the lies, harrasments and pain he brought over many people. It doesn't feel like justice has been served yet to all who suffered from this psychopath.

The liar whose name shall not be spoken or written anymore deservers to be forgotten, erased from collective memory. For this will be the worst for him to endure.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on March 17, 2024, 02:34:06 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on March 17, 2024, 02:06:05 PM

What did he eventually gain from claiming to be Satoshi when he had zero chance of proving it in or out of a Court of law?

He had some successes - from intimidating devs to quit, to the point when a judge ruled that Cobra has to filter UK users from accessing the whitepaper at bitcoin.org.
I expect that he thought that his bullshitting will convince eventually everybody, at least until the point he gets the patents he wanted.
There may also be that he didn't want to go this far, he expected to only con some non-technical rich peeps to get an easy life, but it all went on with his backer(s) pushing him into this... shit show.

I really hope it's over.

Now, he will be the laughing stock in the crypto community. Because the truth is, if he really is Nakamoto, it is easy to prove because he can just sign one of the early bitcoin addresses that Satoshi was using. But instead, he pushed himself to be the Satoshi who didn't have very solid proof in front of the court of law.

I don't know if he will retaliate after this ruling. But he should stop his madness, before he got the label as the "crazy guy" in crypto world. Or he's been already is known to a lot as the crazy one. Grin

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on March 16, 2024, 07:16:17 AM

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Credentials and as you've said, fake fame and wanting to proclaim that he's the father of creation of Bitcoin which is just an illusion of him.

Why? Is my question to him and to anyone who tries to impersonate anyone. Is that worth doing for short term gain and fame. The price of his shit coin is now taking a deep down intervention due to his greed and his community is suffering.

Yeah, I think so that it's worth it to him with that short term fame that he did on his own. And that there's the intention as planned all along with the launch of his forked shtcoin.

Quote from: pakhitheboss on March 16, 2024, 07:16:17 AM

There was a time when his community would come up and bash everyone as they believed him to Satoshi. Imagine how those retards are feeling after hearing he is not. He was trying to be a legend and now he became a shit.

That's okay, we all know the truth.

And if they've been doing that for so long, it's crazy to think that they've been following him blindly without having that common sense that it's obvious he's not satoshi by any means.

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Sometimes i'm really amazed how perverse this man is could be will ask why this man is still trying to pursue his ambitions to make people believe he is Satoshi when almost everyone in the community Satoshi created is opposed to him and his ideals. In which contradicts everything what was Satoshi said.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on March 17, 2024, 02:34:06 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on March 17, 2024, 02:06:05 PM

What did he eventually gain from claiming to be Satoshi when he had zero chance of proving it in or out of a Court of law?

He had some successes - from intimidating devs to quit, to the point when a judge ruled that Cobra has to filter UK users from accessing the whitepaper at bitcoin.org.
I expect that he thought that his bullshitting will convince eventually everybody, at least until the point he gets the patents he wanted.
There may also be that he didn't want to go this far, he expected to only con some non-technical rich peeps to get an easy life, but it all went on with his backer(s) pushing him into this... shit show.

I really hope it's over.

Let's hope that CW action will stop there and it's finally over. We don't want more of this shit show just like him claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto and well, I think he also gain something else from it if you ask me and I think he really is what he claim which is Faketoshi Wrightmoto. In my opinion, it is Wright for him to be called Faketoshi Wrightmoto and should right his own whitepaper. Well, it could be that he has other goal in doing this in the first place.

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Quote from: JollyGood on March 17, 2024, 02:06:05 PM

What did he eventually gain from claiming to be Satoshi when he had zero chance of proving it in or out of a Court of law?

He had some successes - from intimidating devs to quit, to the point when a judge ruled that Cobra has to filter UK users from accessing the whitepaper at bitcoin.org.
I expect that he thought that his bullshitting will convince eventually everybody, at least until the point he gets the patents he wanted.
There may also be that he didn't want to go this far, he expected to only con some non-technical rich peeps to get an easy life, but it all went on with his backer(s) pushing him into this... shit show.

I really hope it's over.

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His claim to be Satoshi has been a time consuming endeavour that was completely unnecessary. Craig Wright will one day look back and question if it was wise for him to constantly claim he is Satoshi. What did he eventually gain from claiming to be Satoshi when he had zero chance of proving it in or out of a Court of law?

Quote from: odolvlobo on March 15, 2024, 02:34:19 AM

Craig Wright is not Satoshi Nakamoto or the author of the Bitcoin whitepaper, U.K. Judge James Mellor said after closing arguments in the Crypto Open Patent Alliance (COPA) trial on Thursday.

The evidence presented during the month-long trial was "overwhelming," the judge said, adding that he plans to write a ruling detailing his conclusions – including that Wright did not create the Bitcoin system.

"I will make certain declarations, which I am satisfied are useful and are necessary to do justice between the parties. First, that Dr. Wright is not the author of the Bitcoin white paper. Second, Dr. Wright is not the person who adopted or operated under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto in the period 2008 to 2011. Third, Dr. Wright is not the person who created the Bitcoin System. And, fourth, he is not the author of the initial versions of the Bitcoin software. Any further relief will be dealt with in my written judgment," Judge Mellor said.

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/03/14/justice-james-mellors-ruling-on-craig-wright-copa-trial/

This ruling will make it impossible for CSW to continue has campaign of lawsuits against developers and others in U.K. courts.

Some have the opinion that his actions in the trial could result in charges of perjury and forgery.

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Nothing surprising because we on this forum knew from the start that Faketoshi isn't the real Satoshi Nakamoto. Well, that's why he's been called as "Faketoshi" at first place. He's a fake Satoshi wannabe, and can't prove anything at all.

With this statements coming from a judge, I just hope that "Dr. Wright" will stop claiming that he is Satoshi because TBH, nobody cares anymore (or it's only me that doesn't care about who is Satoshi). Not surprising, but happy at the same time because of what happened.

F*ck Faketoshi, and F*ck BSV. For those who have BSV right now, just dump it already and buy the real Bitcoin.

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Quote from: mirakal on March 16, 2024, 05:59:43 PM

But now Craig faketoshi saga has come to an end which is certainly a good thing for us. Although this has not affected us so much since we all know actually that he’s a fake one, but I believe a lot of beginners have still fall on his trap and believed on his lies. And most probably, sooner in the future, there will be another VIP who’ll claim to be Satoshi, because as long as bitcoin remains on top of the newsfeed, the name Satoshi will always be taken advantage.

Whatever efforts craig faketoshi makes will never succeed because the real owner never claims himself for legal proof but he can do the simplest action to activate a new transaction on satoshi's wallet, of course there is nothing anyone can do, so satoshi has already claimed he is anonymous and will not open new history to show his face. It seems that the judge's decision has signaled that Craig's drama has ended with an embarrassing decision because there are no facts that can prove the truth of him as Satoshi, he has failed before he acts.

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I don't think the faketoshi saga would ever come to a full close. This is just a part of it. For one, the hunt won't end. It's because Satoshi would remain to be anonymous.

Somebody will definitely come forward with a crazy claim every once in a while. Although most of them are obviously deranged faketoshis, who knows there might be another CSW who has to be taken a little bit seriously?

Of course, the court's decision is a big welcome. I hope it will finally end CSW's harassment. I hope it will also kill BSV once and for all.

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on March 15, 2024, 02:55:40 AM

Thank God this whole drama is finally coming to an end. I saw this news yesterday but it's surprising how one will just be too thick skinned to let go off his false claims even from the first time in 2016 when he spoke about it, I wonder what was is drive all these years since we know deep down he knows that in the end he will definitely lose the case

Its nothing to thank God about.

Assuming that this man somehow confused us all that he is Nakamoto, will you believe him? Because I won't.

Until he is able to proof that he is the real Nakamoto, maybe by

1. Siginig into his BTT account thats been less active for a very long time already.

2. Sign some contract on chain? I believe this is possible since many knew Nakamoto's original address, can someone confirm this for me?

Sometimes, lies find its way to the top, Faketoshi just isn't confusing enough that's why he failed, you need to find answers yourself even when those around you believe something to be true, don't just make up your mind due to what others believe.

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Faketoshi, the fact that he claims to be who his not is insane! like how the heck will someone try to claim who his not. maybe he thought it would be a favour for him, now that it's proven what will be his fate?
At least the case is coming to an end, I don't know why people don't want the case of satoshi anonymity to go to rest, if they find Satoshi what will they do with him if they could.

Greed is one thing that drive Craig, and his nich to become famous wit his claims. I think he already achieved fame in most areas by now but the truth remains that his the faketoshi keeping his family and relatives in shame of faketoshi. perhaps it was fun to see him disgrace himself in court where he couldn't defend some things, like the meaning of "Unsigned". for me I would just like his name and case to go into extinction where nobody would remember his name.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on March 15, 2024, 03:57:30 PM

I saw a great comment on this "saga" not long ago and the author roughly said something like: we can all claim to be Satoshi apart from Craig Wright who is the only person in the world told by the court that he is not. The clown should be punished for doing that as he damaged the reputation of the real Satoshi, whoever he is. I can't run around town saying I'm the president. They'd probably arrest me for that and put me up for mental health check, but Craig can lie for years and not even get thrown in the loony bin?

But now Craig faketoshi saga has come to an end which is certainly a good thing for us. Although this has not affected us so much since we all know actually that he’s a fake one, but I believe a lot of beginners have still fall on his trap and believed on his lies. And most probably, sooner in the future, there will be another VIP who’ll claim to be Satoshi, because as long as bitcoin remains on top of the newsfeed, the name Satoshi will always be taken advantage.

My advice to everyone is that don’t easily believe on strangers. Regardless if they have high position in the industry, that won’t guarantee that they’re being honest and would never do such scamming. Any person can imitate what Wright has done, and everyone that turns out claiming Satoshi’s name are directly named as scammers.

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Quote from: Reatim on March 15, 2024, 03:21:12 AM

It has always been obvious and known just like the judge said the evidence were just
too overwhelming and his stance was just ridiculous. It is regretful that
this whole process came too long but at least now we can put this behind and we can
focus on what lies ahead of us.

Let us not believe anyone claiming to be satoshi let us try to think more critically to
avoid being victimized or scammed

The real Satoshi will never claim its name if ever, either the forum itself. But the people will certainly determine him because of what he is, not because of self-proclamation as it turns out that you have an intention to steal other spotlight. Good thing this comes to an end, and Wright will no longer have to lie anymore and influence newbies about his fake identity. There are a lot of scams happening in crypto, that even the name Satoshi itself has many times steal by fake ones.

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Since the start of the trial, Judge Mellor had shown real restraint. If you followed Norbert on Twitter, you would have enjoyed his minute-by-minute updates about the cross examinations as he was present inside the courtroom. The court even had a provision for getting access to the live feed but it was illegal to make any sort of recordings.

There were some hilarious moments including wright being asked what a "const unsigned int" means. He was unable to explain what unsigned was.

Then there was the amazing stuff about wright talking about hosted platforms changing his documents, the new excuse about the watermark in whitepaper. It truly was like the narcissistic, pathological liar was inventing lies on the fly. At a lot of points, he has his own lawyers embarrassed. If i recall correctly, his lawyer at one point said, "I am not sure my client knows what he is talking about my lord".

The high point of course was the closing remarks by Judge Mellor recounted below for your enjoyment. Read every line to your heart's content for all the times that you had been exasperated seeing that slickly dressed, smug SoB bamboozle people with his feigned expertise and jargon. Here is what Judge Mellor said at closing:

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MR JUSTICE MELLOR: Thank you. Well, I thank all the parties for their written closing and oral arguments, and they've been very helpful indeed.They will require me to prepare a fairly lengthy written judgment, which will be handed down in due course. And for all those who have already been hassling my clerk as to when the judgment will be ready, the short answer is as follows: it will be ready when it's ready and not before.

However, having considered all the evidence and submissions presented to me in this trial, I've reached the conclusion that the evidence is overwhelming. Therefore, for the reasons which will be explained in that written judgment in due course, I will make certain declarations which I am satisfied are useful and are necessary to do justice between the parties.

First, that Dr Wright is not the author of the Bitcoin White Paper.
Second, Dr Wright is not the person who adopted or operated under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto in the period 2008 to 2011.
Third, Dr Wright is not the person who created the Bitcoin System.
And, fourth, he is not the author of the initial versions of the Bitcoin software.

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Am glad it's finally coming to an end because it is because of a comment I made, thinking it was against him that I earned a neutral tag and am going to be much happy if this trial is over and the real Satoshi reclaiming his name.

With all the fake documents presented am sure he would resort to his calm corner to think on what he has done because as far as am concerned many individuals will run the other way if he shows his face in public or run for a public post or management position in any big company.

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