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Topic: The Fate of Satoshi, a Bitcoin graphic adventure [BUY thread] [CrowdF + Equity] - page 2. (Read 10647 times)

hero member
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I am going to wait for one more week to get more clarity . Can you please post a deadline of dates that we are looking at  like :

x  : Launch campaign on  Indiegogo
y : Setup counterparty protocol support

etc ...

hero member
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rgbkey.github.io/pgp.txt
I would like a refund to the address 1DxtoKWAGkZi6K143WgACJswH5bHRcHRbx as I had paid from, but only because it is a blockchain.info wallet that I do not normally use. I will be investing again from an address I am more comfortable with.
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Money be green
Hello everyone,

I'm extremely sorry. We've had some pretty heavy family health issues and a housing problem come all at once down here. These last couple weeks have been rather bad for us. I've been knee deep and haven't been able to pay close to any attention to the project in the last few days. Fortunately things are starting to clear up for us now, and yesterday we signed a lease for a new place. That said, days flew by, we reached our due date and I have to talk about where we stand.

We intend to keep going and move ahead, but realistically we need and will re-launch the full campaign with a more all-around exposition in either Indiegogo or Crowdtilt or StartJoin, more material and removing the BTC only payment limitation (which was one of our original goals of having it exclusively funded in BTC, but it ain't happening). I'm still working on the details on how we'll be moving forward and will finish thinking and deciding through the weekend and post the plan on Monday.

As of now however, those of you who wanna opt-out (if you're patient please bare with me till Monday) are free to do so. Please clearly state so here and Gweedo will proceed to refund you. We'll understand and thank you anyway for your support thus far, for real. We'll also be very happy to move forward with those of you who still feel comfortable and believe in the idea.
 

Again, I'm really really sorry for keeping you in the dark these last few days. You have all been great and we're very very grateful for your support. I feel like I've let you down; all I can say is sometimes life just gets hard and out of control. We hope at least some of you will still accompany us looking forward.

I'll work out the details ahead and post again on Monday, or hopefully sooner.

Thanks,
Santiago.

Can I just say that I totally forgive you. Life can get a little bit messy sometimes. It's perfectly understandable, particularly with such a small team working on this project. I wish you and your family well (and more than simply wishing, I will continue to work hard at the cutting edge of genomics research to help everyone avoid preventable and treatable ill-health).

For me this was always a long-term investment so I'm not affected negatively by these developments. I am slightly disappointed that you feel the need to remove the BTC only limitation however. There is seriously no reason why you can't raise 20+ BTC in the next week or two. All it requires is a little bit more exposure on the appropriate media channels - e.g. coindesk, bitcoin magazine, bitcoin reddit etc. This is real news!

I would be willing to invest even more money (2+ BTC) if you consider using the Counterparty Protocol again. They have made some incredible progress in the last month and this recent blog post is particularly relevant - https://www.counterparty.co/pay-dividends-with-bitcoin/. Adam B Levine of Lets Talk Bitcoin (http://letstalkbitcoin.com/) is launching LTBcoin on Counterparty shortly. (In fact he already has - http://ltbcoin.com/discussion/52/someone-issued-ltbcoin-on-counterparty). This is the ideal way to re-launch the fund-raiser.

Please take the time to consider what you would be achieving by bootstrapping your own project into existence and sharing ownership of the project with investors all within the Bitcoin ecosystem. That is an amazing idea.

The timing of all of this is too perfect to miss out on this opportunity!

If you need any assistance please feel free to ask me any questions or start a "Fate of Satoshi" thread at the Counterparty forums - https://forums.counterparty.co/.

Don't give up! Smiley
sr. member
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Hello everyone,

I'm extremely sorry. We've had some pretty heavy family health issues and a housing problem come all at once down here. These last couple weeks have been rather bad for us. I've been knee deep and haven't been able to pay close to any attention to the project in the last few days. Fortunately things are starting to clear up for us now, and yesterday we signed a lease for a new place. That said, days flew by, we reached our due date and I have to talk about where we stand.

We intend to keep going and move ahead, but realistically we need and will re-launch the full campaign with a more all-around exposition in either Indiegogo or Crowdtilt or StartJoin, more material and removing the BTC only payment limitation (which was one of our original goals of having it exclusively funded in BTC, but it ain't happening). I'm still working on the details on how we'll be moving forward and will finish thinking and deciding through the weekend and post the plan on Monday.

As of now however, those of you who wanna opt-out (if you're patient please bare with me till Monday) are free to do so. Please clearly state so here and Gweedo will proceed to refund you. We'll understand and thank you anyway for your support thus far, for real. We'll also be very happy to move forward with those of you who still feel comfortable and believe in the idea.
 

Again, I'm really really sorry for keeping you in the dark these last few days. You have all been great and we're very very grateful for your support. I feel like I've let you down; all I can say is sometimes life just gets hard and out of control. We hope at least some of you will still accompany us looking forward.

I'll work out the details ahead and post again on Monday, or hopefully sooner.

Thanks,
Santiago.
legendary
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Due date for funding is 45 days from today, roughly March 13, so there's plenty of time.

Today is the due date !  If there has not been enough funding , can we get our coins back !

I am pming him right now, I would give him the day to response. But again your coins are safe with me and I will only release them on the terms that you guys agreed.

In the event that I have to return the coins, it will take some time due to the security I use to store the private keys. I will then be comparing the my quote of your signed messages to your original post if any of them have changed in anyway, those will release only with another signed message. If nothing was changed the amount from one address will be sent to the refund address you all supplied.
hero member
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Due date for funding is 45 days from today, roughly March 13, so there's plenty of time.

Today is the due date !  If there has not been enough funding , can we get our coins back !

Or if there has been enough funding can someone post an update ! Can we have these shares on bitcoin share trading platform or something like that . Right now , I dont have an idea what is happening to my equity
legendary
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Don't worry the Bitcoins are still in my wallet and my control.
hero member
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rgbkey.github.io/pgp.txt
Voodah has not replied in a long time. Starting to get worried.
newbie
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We're currently at 3.9 BTC out of the ~12 initial target.

I'm sorry I haven't posted these last few days, we're working hard on getting the site up and the teaser video (it's taking a couple days longer than we hoped). We'll hopefully have all of that ready in two or three more days, and will relaunch the remainder of the campaign both here and Reddit as well (it's only here so far). More PR articles are also on the hold until we have this new stuff, so as to give this a good bump as we enter the remainder month of the campaign.

As Loaded said: Expect (more of us in the next few days !)


Will the BTC raised in this IPO be sold for fiat in Argentina and entering the local Argentinian economy?

Are all of your expenses going to remain confined to Argentina and unaffected by their draconian capital controls?

What's the current price per share and how many unsold shares are there?

If the BTC price goes up before they are exchanged for fiat, will the IPO investors receive a partial rebate?

When the game is being sold to consumers, will their payments be sent to the same BTC Address so investors can monitor sales?
hero member
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rgbkey.github.io/pgp.txt
Bumping because there's been no updates on this.
legendary
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I have purchased one equity share.
https://blockchain.info/tx/28772cd0548c316bcdf867097cd13caed586db2f44812719524a83195f41bb11
Good luck with development and don't slack on End of The World while developing this Cheesy

Can you sign using this address 1D67DShPPB1YxbtR3KH7p4eQoZSRXNroHQ the transaction id and a refund address.

Damn those change addresses.

Message : 17kzPBwE8cRGUkgimViRGfYwGNHahQ3FFZ
28772cd0548c316bcdf867097cd13caed586db2f44812719524a83195f41bb11

Signature : HJw/Kdtxljvsl28umXuQLSFCAPJibqViJVOKVHOzLTzWaLH2TD027NxmnmvkWWPkJUWgAavQZbF+A7Y/EFeWVV8=

Receiving address is the first one , 17kzPBwE8cRGUkgimViRGfYwGNHahQ3FFZ
The transaction ID is , 28772cd0548c316bcdf867097cd13caed586db2f44812719524a83195f41bb11 , the second number.


Thank you, quoting for proof.
legendary
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If they sell the game for even 5$ , I'm pretty sure they can easily sell 10k copies.
This seems unlikely to fail if funding goes through.

Anyways , can you provide any updates on the selling ?
I see under 4 BTC in the equity address.
From January 28 , it seems that 45 days would be ending soon , under a couple weeks or so.

Before you had commented that you'd be done by March.
Any updates or release plans ?

Thanks for prompt responses Cheesy

Jambola2
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rgbkey.github.io/pgp.txt
bitwho brought up a question, as to the shares, I own a single one, so at 0.1%, I make 0.1% of the profit that the game makes across the platforms it's sold on? So if you made $10,000 in profits off of the game in the first month, I would recieve $10 worth of BTC? Please correct me if i'm wrong.

Yes, this is correct !
Meaning that for investors to make their money back the game needs to make at least $50,000 in profit.
sr. member
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bitwho brought up a question, as to the shares, I own a single one, so at 0.1%, I make 0.1% of the profit that the game makes across the platforms it's sold on? So if you made $10,000 in profits off of the game in the first month, I would recieve $10 worth of BTC? Please correct me if i'm wrong.

Yes, this is correct !
legendary
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I have purchased one equity share.
https://blockchain.info/tx/28772cd0548c316bcdf867097cd13caed586db2f44812719524a83195f41bb11
Good luck with development and don't slack on End of The World while developing this Cheesy

Can you sign using this address 1D67DShPPB1YxbtR3KH7p4eQoZSRXNroHQ the transaction id and a refund address.
sr. member
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ha. its fine. we are dealing with money here so i don't mind. that being said. is there any other threads i missed?

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haha so i might have exaggerated a bit, and on purpose too. that is because i want to you to get a bit overworked and really get the mind working. i want you to angry start replying me back and prove me wrong.


Thanks for understanding !

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Yes, you are mostly right in your self-answers but without the hint of sarcasm Smiley

How: Right now, it is too difficult to work on this project so we need some income. Once we receive founding we will try to hire proper stuff. its too hard and too much work to work on it solely as it is at a good paste. If we receive this IPO-prepaid income we can stop everything else in our life and focus only on this game  (seriously guys, support us so we can stop working at a pizza parlor and work on this multi-billion-dollar game that will educate the world about bitcoin)

Yup, pretty much spot on ! Smiley

We're not trying to hide anything here..

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And your later post:
i believe that is what OP is saying , my question is how? and how will we get paid dividends at each sell. what if this game keep selling every week, every month? every year?. How can we check the sale revenue? are we only to depend on your word? there is no info. Only buy one share and receive %0.1 You can't just do that. you need to show and prove how we will get rewarded on helping you now at tough times

This is mostly answered above (from the proposal) but again, it is %0.1 profit share in monthly BTC dividends, forever (games usually have a life cycle of no more than a couple years, but regardless).

All information regarding the shares, sales and everything will be made public (it already is in the blockchain) in our website coming very soon (next weekend).

There is no way for us to prove anything at this point because nothing happened so far, and there's no way for us to prove the future other than our word. I don't really know what you're referring to or what you're expecting in that sense.

Ultimately, it is like any other investment, where you have to assess if it can be done, if you trust the people doing it and whether you think it's a rather good idea.

There's no securities for us either in that sense, we just believe in it and are willing and wishing to put the time and effort to make it happen.

I hope that mostly answers your doubts, but please let me know any others you might have.

 
legendary
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i believe that is what OP is saying , my question is how? and how will we get paid dividends at each sell. what if this game keep selling every week, every month? every year?. How can we check the sale revenue? are we only to depend on your word? there is no info. Only buy one share and receive %0.1 You can't just do that. you need to show and prove how we will get rewarded on helping you now at tough times
hero member
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rgbkey.github.io/pgp.txt
bitwho brought up a question, as to the shares, I own a single one, so at 0.1%, I make 0.1% of the profit that the game makes across the platforms it's sold on? So if you made $10,000 in profits off of the game in the first month, I would recieve $10 worth of BTC? Please correct me if i'm wrong.
legendary
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Sorry. i like your idea but i feel its a bit skeptical to invest on something that will lunch in july and who knows what kind of sales it will have. so i have a few question. Maybe these question are answered somewhere else but i need to ask them.

Who:
Who are you guys? i see that you posted a little information, but you are still very anonymous. Who are you ? Who is you partner? Do you have a company registered ? Does this project have anything registered? facebook? twitter?

What:
What exactly am i buying if i go with tier II option. %0.1 percent of what? Game sales ? whole company?
How will i be legally bonded to this shares?  How will i know i will always own %0.1 percent times each share? what will stop you guys from giving up and not paying us? How will we see what the actual sales margin are? If you go big and start having accessories sold such as games controllers, graphic cloth wear ,etc are we still going to be considered as owner of %0.1 shares?

Why :
Why should i invest. I know this is a harsh question and every project is a vision to the developers but i need you to give us your hindsight. Why do you need the money? if you so confident in your game and its design why not borrow from relatives/banks and own it %100?

Where:
Where do you see your self, the company and the game 6 months, 1 year, 2 year and and possible 5 years from now? Again, this is probably a harsh questions but i will need to know how far of a vision you guys have. Where is the limmit?

How:
How are you prepared to push this to mass market? How is your team going to push for this to get to reach the above goals?


thanks you. will be watching closely and waiting in anticipation for your answers. Please try to be as much detailed as possible

Hey bitwho,

I don't want to be rude here, but what you're asking is for me to re-write the whole proposal here, which it seems you have not read at all.

If you are even 10% serious on considering investing here (or anywhere else), please take the 10-15 minutes required to go through, read, and understand all the available information (full proposal, answers to questions in both threads, interview, etc). This is a very important good practice and part of your due-diligence when considering this or any other investment.

Please do not take this the bad way, but you ask for "as much detailed as possible" and yet haven't even read the proposal; that's where all the details are !

I will gladly answer any questions you put forth after reading the whole thing.

Thanks and please understand. It is in no one's best interest that I save you the 15 min of doing so by retyping everything here.

(link to full proposal in my sig btw !)


ha. its fine. we are dealing with money here so i don't mind. that being said. is there any other threads i missed?


The reason i posted those question is because i wanted to reinforce any information i did not understand or that you lacked off providing. You might think you have given us a lot of info but you have not cover some basic detail. mostly the shares. We want to help you and we want to believe in this. You are giving us a slice to you pie. But you need to specify how we will eat it!.
Give us some more additional information that we can feel comfortable enough to feel like this is an opportunity.


I did went back and read it once more. This time i will tell you what and how i understand your answers to my question should be  based on the info you have posted so far.

  • Who: me and my brother. maybe some other guys if we pay you via this IPO
  • What: i will be paying you upfront for a game or a game + maybe some shares(shares that have no information on how it will work or how i will own be owner of them)
  • Where: I had a successful previous indie game so it should be considered to notice that this will totally be a success. There is no future set plans except that we will work hard for this game.Note that this is  a good thing, to see a dev that wants to fight hard. But i don't see any form of future plans of attack. (guy, i made a "successful" game once. So give use some support money and we will make this bad ass game. oh and get this... it will be about satoshi! you know.. bitcoin)
  • How: Right now, it is too difficult to work on this project so we need some income. Once we receive founding we will try to hire proper stuff. its too hard and too much work to work on it solely as it is at a good paste. If we receive this IPO-prepaid income we can stop everything else in our life and focus only on this game  (seriously guys, support us so we can stop working at a pizza parlor and work on this multi-billion-dollar game that will educate the world about bitcoin)
(this text in paranthesis is a mocking explanation of how i understanding of what you are telling me)


haha so i might have exaggerated a bit, and on purpose too. that is because i want to you to get a bit overworked and really get the mind working. i want you to angry start replying me back and prove me wrong.
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sr. member
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Sorry. i like your idea but i feel its a bit skeptical to invest on something that will lunch in july and who knows what kind of sales it will have. so i have a few question. Maybe these question are answered somewhere else but i need to ask them.

Who :
Who are you guys? i see that you posted a little information, but you are still very anonymous. Who are you ? Who is you partner? Do you have a company registered ? Does this project have anything registered? facebook? twitter?

What:
What exactly am i buying if i go with tier II option. %0.1 percent of what? Game sales ? whole company?
How will i be legally bonded to this shares?  How will i know i will always own %0.1 percent times each share? what will stop you guys from giving up and not paying us? How will we see what the actual sales margin are? If you go big and start having accessories sold such as games controllers, graphic cloth wear ,etc are we still going to be considered as owner of %0.1 shares?

Why :
Why should i invest. I know this is a harsh question and every project is a vision to the developers but i need you to give us your hindsight. Why do you need the money? if you so confident in your game and its design why not borrow from relatives/banks and own it %100?

Where:
Where do you see your self, the company and the game 6 months, 1 year, 2 year and and possible 5 years from now? Again, this is probably a harsh questions but i will need to know how far of a vision you guys have. Where is the limmit?

How:
How are you prepared to push this to mass market? How is your team going to push for this to get to reach the above goals?


thanks you. will be watching closely and waiting in anticipation for your answers. Please try to be as much detailed as possible

Hey bitwho,

I don't want to be rude here, but what you're asking is for me to re-write the whole proposal here, which it seems you have not read at all.

If you are even 10% serious on considering investing here (or anywhere else), please take the 10-15 minutes required to go through, read, and understand all the available information (full proposal, answers to questions in both threads, interview, etc). This is a very important good practice and part of your due-diligence when considering this or any other investment.

Please do not take this the bad way, but you ask for "as much detailed as possible" and yet haven't even read the proposal; that's where all the details are !

I will gladly answer any questions you put forth after reading the whole thing.

Thanks and please understand. It is in no one's best interest that I save you the 15 min of doing so by retyping everything here.

(link to full proposal in my sig btw !)
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