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Topic: The Fate of Satoshi, a Bitcoin graphic adventure [BUY thread] [CrowdF + Equity] - page 3. (Read 10647 times)

legendary
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hero member
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rgbkey.github.io/pgp.txt
bitwho is certainly living up to his namesake.
legendary
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Sorry. i like your idea but i feel its a bit skeptical to invest on something that will lunch in july and who knows what kind of sales it will have. so i have a few question. Maybe these question are answered somewhere else but i need to ask them.

Who :
Who are you guys? i see that you posted a little information, but you are still very anonymous. Who are you ? Who is you partner? Do you have a company registered ? Does this project have anything registered? facebook? twitter?

What:
What exactly am i buying if i go with tier II option. %0.1 percent of what? Game sales ? whole company?
How will i be legally bonded to this shares?  How will i know i will always own %0.1 percent times each share? what will stop you guys from giving up and not paying us? How will we see what the actual sales margin are? If you go big and start having accessories sold such as games controllers, graphic cloth wear ,etc are we still going to be considered as owner of %0.1 shares?

Why :
Why should i invest. I know this is a harsh question and every project is a vision to the developers but i need you to give us your hindsight. Why do you need the money? if you so confident in your game and its design why not borrow from relatives/banks and own it %100?

Where:
Where do you see your self, the company and the game 6 months, 1 year, 2 year and and possible 5 years from now? Again, this is probably a harsh questions but i will need to know how far of a vision you guys have. Where is the limmit?

How:
How are you prepared to push this to mass market? How is your team going to push for this to get to reach the above goals?


thanks you. will be watching closely and waiting in anticipation for your answers. Please try to be as much detailed as possible
sr. member
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Heya,

Nope, just out for the weekend, sorry I couldn't answer sooner guys.

We're still working hard and putting lots and lots of night hours on the video, site and a first small gameplay version; but essentially I'm having everything on hold here until we can finish those things and reboot the campaign in Reddit to a greater audience. We extended our timeframe (from this past weekend) on this so as to have as most as we can ready for this Saturday 1st, on which we're going to the Bitcoin Hackathon here in Buenos Aires and presenting there as well (everything should be ready by then, except maybe the gameplay demo).

This is also (to a lesser extent) to let the current Gox crisis settle down a bit. We are finding most people very unsure of what to do right now and reluctant to go about investing at this (quite) particular moment.

Rest assured, there'll be no goxxxing here.

 
hero member
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rgbkey.github.io/pgp.txt
hero member
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Any update on whatz happening here ? Have we got enough funding
legendary
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What's the current funding status?

Still needs ~8 BTC until the the 20% mark.
hero member
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rgbkey.github.io/pgp.txt
How's the fundraiser going? Seems dead :/
legendary
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Wait, why exactly do you have it limited to a date in March ?
Why not keep open the campaign till until this sells ?
Thanks for your prompt replies,
Jambola2
legendary
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Hey gweedo,

Just to let you know, an Angel investor we talked to from outside the forum has bought 15 shares. I had him send the BTC to the escrowed address anyway.

This is the TX:

TX: ba1133aeff98fa3b386264a1edb57a114542457979a917b12384488156a7632d

15 shares (1.0545 BTC)
And the return address: 1GpNp9g4At3ESU8mHkkEhFBjzPEJXCtVpe

Ok quoting for proof.
sr. member
Activity: 266
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Can you give an update on amount funded and stuff ?
( I hope you guys get enough before the due date )

I've been investing in tonnes of Ponzis and HYIPs and failing  Sad


Hey there,

We're currently at 3.9 BTC out of the ~12 initial target.

I'm sorry I haven't posted these last few days, we're working hard on getting the site up and the teaser video (it's taking a couple days longer than we hoped). We'll hopefully have all of that ready in two or three more days, and will relaunch the remainder of the campaign both here and Reddit as well (it's only here so far). More PR articles are also on the hold until we have this new stuff, so as to give this a good bump as we enter the remainder month of the campaign.

As Loaded said: Expect (more of us in the next few days !)



legendary
Activity: 1120
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Can you give an update on amount funded and stuff ?
( I hope you guys get enough before the due date )

I've been investing in tonnes of Ponzis and HYIPs and failing  Sad
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1000
what do you mean sign a message?

txid b1ca54ced73e0f9c9fc57cf0c4e0f4115c50c7101c5f3a7426d20420cf7bc9f3
refund 19cvuCCHrr5TQv6mtDwxJz711BVZ9XuPke

sig HOjsBOtvUnWQF/s7YKsTTaH3w9YVhoLwKepyjdgW7sjmJhP9s0sw9SB8fQ4dAIX6CsJjuYnXEXBFcZVV4g9XyHE=
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1000
what do you mean sign a message?
legendary
Activity: 1176
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Hi bought a share. 0.0819.

txid b1ca54ced73e0f9c9fc57cf0c4e0f4115c50c7101c5f3a7426d20420cf7bc9f3
my return or divi address: 19cvuCCHrr5TQv6mtDwxJz711BVZ9XuPke

good luck guys

inca
legendary
Activity: 1498
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Purchased ten shares @ 0.07030:
39768bc42b964f4bc8b90f71ca2a3c93dd368e539b3eec6c86ebf7e46d481f4e

Code:
Feb. 7, 2014: TxID: 39768bc42b964f4bc8b90f71ca2a3c93dd368e539b3eec6c86ebf7e46d481f4e return address: 1APEunfrJyvuGLkaueLFmvQxWJJKN5NuYZ

Code:
G7m9qkLRPZFF/JqthjKf+OFBZ0kHtixC5uRcED25DIBOAvD5fyipK6D/mYKaa1i10cQMFIowgHMfIGaKlnUIdaU=

Thank you, and quoting for proof.
sr. member
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I was trying to share it among some of my friends , but most of them have the same doubt as me :-

I am pretty sure that the game will be funded and even if it is not funded , we shall get refunds.
I am not scared of being scammed , because you seem trustworthy enough and have a reputed member escrowing too.
But the problem is , what if the game does not sell much after being made ?
How can our investments be considered a "risk free Bitcoin investment" , when there is a high risk that the game will not gain enough popularity after being released ?

PS : Any estimate for end of the worlds becoming a full game ? So far it is awesome ( and addiciting ) Cheesy


You need to break things down to the fundamentals. Forget about Bitcoin for a second. The guys here have all the elements to make a very enjoyable and thoroughly engrossing game. Go do some research on the "point and click"/"graphical adventure" game genre. Notice the emphasis that these games put on quality. Quality art, engaging story. Good games get played by a lot of people. There is also a lot of longevity to games like this. People today still play graphical adventure games from the the 80's and 90's.

Now back to Bitcoin. The story of Bitcoin is one of the most interesting in the history of humanity. From it's conception to it's adolescence to it's ongoing maturity and it's continually changing future possibilities, the Bitcoin story is one of incredible mystery and confusion.

TLDR: What Voodah and his team are doing is using one of the best story telling mediums ever to tell one of the best stories ever. If that won't be popular, I don't know what will.

Thanks for these kind of talks, I really appreciate all honest debate (and thanks Alias for your spot on words as well).

And yes, I understand your concerns. When I was thinking through this whole process, your concern was my main one as well. I disliked how Kickstarter gives nothing back to backers who put above the minimum, and I wanted to reward our backers with a stake in the game's success. I thought long and hard about how to do it in a way that makes achieving full ROI a reality, instead of an impossible (as has happened to me in other investments like mining).

Right off the bat, the first consideration was to not auction the shares. If I let the share price go sky high, no one would ever get ROI. Thus we did this with a capped maximum funding and fixed % equity based on the USD value put in. So naturally, next came thinking of the actual numbers to make it work as I intended. I did a lot of research on the sales data of indie games, they're infrastructure and the relationship with Steam, Desura and the mess the industry is in right now regarding the Bundle sales. The chosen numbers reflect my plan of having the backers get full ROI before 2500 copies are sold, which is a ballpark number of what an unknown non-megasuccessful indie game typically makes if it can NOT manage to go into Steam. This is the "floor", unless your game is utter shit and nobody ever wants to touch it.

So the key here is of course, distribution; and the king is of course Steam. Once a game gets into Steam, poor sales are usually in the order of 10k copies sold (consider Steam gets a big NDA protected cut of that). At the very beginning I even considered forgoing and shunning off Steam because they don't yet accept BTC, but after careful analysis of the industry and going through the numbers over and over, it became clear that Steam is an integral part of success, and furthermore, if we want to change Steam's view on Bitcoin, doing it from the inside would also yield better results than trying to be the outcast martyr.  

Now everyone in the industry knows, actually getting your first couple of games on Steam is easier said than done. Greenlight did not shape out to be the great tool it was supposed to be, and some successful games (with over 25k copies sold prior to Steam) had to wait close to a year inside Greenlight before getting on the actual platform. We're getting things ready for Greenlight but at the same time, we're receiving guidance from other devs and our investors (one of em actually had a video game company which later he sold) that the best plan is to not just sit idly on Greenlight but to contact Steam internally. So that's our game plan with two attack vectors: one of our investors is already published and has a working relation with Steam, and we're also real life friends with someone who knows and worked with Bruno Carlucci (for those who don't know him, he's an Argentine, e-sports data analyst and caster on James "2GD" Harding's team who are actively working with Valve and main casters of their BIG events; if you've watched Valve's The International, he's the caster with the crazy suits and outfits). Hopefully, between those things and Greenlight we'll have a quicker entry to the store.

I invite you to check this post as well for extended sales data (a very hard to find subject because of NDA and store clauses):
http://www.pixelprospector.com/the-big-list-of-game-revenue-sales/

These guys have done a pretty good compilation of most of the indie sales data available.

Anyway, I see you bought a share before I could give you this answer, so thank you so very much ! We'll do our best to not let you guys down !


 

legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1038
I have purchased one equity share.
https://blockchain.info/tx/28772cd0548c316bcdf867097cd13caed586db2f44812719524a83195f41bb11
Good luck with development and don't slack on End of The World while developing this Cheesy

Can you sign using this address 1D67DShPPB1YxbtR3KH7p4eQoZSRXNroHQ the transaction id and a refund address.

Damn those change addresses.

Message : 17kzPBwE8cRGUkgimViRGfYwGNHahQ3FFZ
28772cd0548c316bcdf867097cd13caed586db2f44812719524a83195f41bb11

Signature : HJw/Kdtxljvsl28umXuQLSFCAPJibqViJVOKVHOzLTzWaLH2TD027NxmnmvkWWPkJUWgAavQZbF+A7Y/EFeWVV8=

Receiving address is the first one , 17kzPBwE8cRGUkgimViRGfYwGNHahQ3FFZ
The transaction ID is , 28772cd0548c316bcdf867097cd13caed586db2f44812719524a83195f41bb11 , the second number.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
One share.
Code:
Transaction ID 93b2d2f157ff6b3c1daaada82e5bd779b2c5c41dabdf95ab393c8529cf333173 Refund Address 1EqgbEzacMpsWYBLKsN1pUvmwEqxhUyVjx
Code:
G2jKRRCm7DMbhA+T1CcfamzWDXSg4O0canysQk9F3asQfC/O4u31Nktd4A2aWJe1pg3yGcDELY7BS4VcgGDayRw=
Because cool!

Thank you quoting for proof.
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1038
I have purchased one equity share.
https://blockchain.info/tx/28772cd0548c316bcdf867097cd13caed586db2f44812719524a83195f41bb11
Good luck with development and don't slack on End of The World while developing this Cheesy
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