Topic: The FED is almost Dead. (Fed = Federal Reserve Inc., a privately owned cartel). (Read 5038 times)

I don't get why people believe this stuff. This is like going to a fortune teller, or mystic, who gives you vague sort of substantial pieces of information collected into a picture that may or may not be related, and framed to look like their "prediction" is likely.

I have bad news! The USD and the Fed aren't "almost dead". If you have conclusive evidence that they are, put a date on it. Pick a date and predict exactly what will happen, and why. You're Nostradamus, throwing ideas at a board to see what sticks. It was crap then, it's crap now.

Well, only the FED could make that announcement.

Replacing USD with CNY would be a bad idea. The USD is at least freely convertible.
Bitcoin would be the true successor.

 
 Yuan to Start Direct Trading With Euro as China Pushes Usage
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-29/yuan-euro-direct-trading-begins-tomorrow-as-china-promotes-usage.html


 But then those 'commies' have also blown the largest debt bubble of all time in just the last several years worth of time.

 So NO, I wouldn't dare care for any phony yuan money anymore than phony dollar money.


 Their both PHONY CURRENCIES, and horrible 'stores of value', and their both being counterfeited to the extreme.

 Only delusional types would support such insanity. Or any other debt-based (phony baloney) currency.

This may be true, and it was true for the last 50 years. One thing you are forgetting however is that people generally do not keep their savings in paper cash. Paper cash has had the effect you are describing, but if you had put your money into an interest bearing savings account then the interest adjusted amount you would have today would be greater then it would have been 50 years ago.

Wow +1 for a great thread, I really look forward to checking out all the info you shared.  Also great job posting that "All Wars are Bankers Wars".  I was just thinking I should post it on this forum yesterday.

2050.... Still a long, long time away. Most of us would be retired by that time.
Our minute bitcoin holdings should be sufficient to fund our retirement plans by then.

Europe is trying to patch their shit up now 

Loads of economic informations available in this thread,to go through all of them when I have enough time this have been Bookmarked
Thanks

Guys i keep saying this but it's just true: 2050 is the year when USD and EUR are deep buried into nothingness. They will be worth peanuts compared to the current price. Smart money will flow into BTC and ASIA FIAT will be half of the cake. Shit will get eventually real.

There is a difference between USD dominance and the survival of the FED.  The USD could lose all of its international credibility and there would still be a need for a US central bank, maybe even more of a need.  Just like most nations have a central bank, so would the US.  The only exception would be if the US adopted some other nation's currency as its own.  Even then, it would want a lender of last resort for its banks.

 
MUST WATCH
15 mins of All Wars are Bankers Wars - Michael Rivero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V59Toqg5l54#t=18


 The fed is surrounded and being attacked by almost the entire informed world as the informed of this world
turns fully against it, and all the other major central banks first.

 The informed in this world finally understands what it must do: Destroy the fed, and ALL the other central
banks too. But FIRST destroy the fed, and the other LARGEST, most powerful, central banks. After they fall,
the rest will fall easily, without any viable defenses.

 Only then can future generations inherit the earth they deserve.

 Of course many a puppet government official and financial employee/employer is against this too. Get over
it. Either join us, or be financially destroyed, as well as falling from grace along with your banking masters.

 No matter what the costs the world must break free of the debt-based-financial-bondage (slavery) that is
central banking, and that we all have endured for centuries. Our children and grandchildren deserve this, so
do their future children. WE deserve this too. Starting NOW.

 Make no mistake. This is war for our monetary freedom from monetary debt-based-slavery.
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 And all while the fed and other central banks by their very design are all very much destroying themselves.

 Debt-based fiat schemes is a failed disaster by it's very design, and it's the most evil of all ponzi schemes
ever devised.

 This was utilized for centuries on end to enslave the world by way of debt-based-currency-bondage.

 But not any longer. Not ever again. We can reboot globally to vastly greater prosperity for all in a few
years time, and never again suffer from the boom/bust central banking crimes, and their gross incompetence.


 The fed and the rest of the worlds central banks are all dying quickly now. Even they themselves know
 this, and it's plainly apparent to anyone paying close enough attention and not in denial.

 A "brand new Bretten Woods New Banking Deal is in the cards. And it's up to the world to make certain
that it will NOT include any DEBT-BASED currencies, as in none at all, never again, not ever. NO debt-based
currencies ever again.

 It's recently been said that 132 nations and counting are now presently against the western empire's
major central banks. And that all 132 nations have risen up, stood up, and demand real monetary freedom.
With the nuclear powers of both China and Russia leading this extremely important and moral cause.

 Yes, the fed and other major central banks are all failing. Get over it...re-read the paragraph above if one
doubts this.

 The worlds wagons are circling them now. That's a sure sign of pending terminal failure for the failed
central banks, and their failed currencies too.

 The fed and almost all other central banks and fiat currencies are suddenly dying a thousand quicker and
quicker deaths as the Monetary Bubble of Last Resort increases in speed (Counterfeiting).


 Bitcoins are vastly superior to all debt-based fiat currency PONZI SCHEMES.
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learn why here: http://nakamotoinstitute.org/literature/

 Plus the obvious fact that Bitcoin is tailor made to be the next world's sole reserve currency.

 
MUST WATCH
15 mins of All Wars are Bankers Wars - Michael Rivero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V59Toqg5l54#t=18

The FED is dying, but not almost dead. It will die slowly, destroying huge parts of the economy and the lives of many people in the process.

The FED-fiat-system is main the source of power for those who rule. They will defend their power at all costs.

ya.ya.yo!

 The end of any fiat currency will only help Bitcoin. Capital controls are only hurting fiat currencies that
their hoping to defend by utilizing such capital controls.

 Anyone that holds or saves in bitcoins rather than dollars, or yen, euro's, yuan, francs, pounds, etc., are
voting a vote of no confidence by their own very actions. Diversification out of grossly flawed and failing
currencies is an act of prudence. Not doing so is an act of imprudence.



 In reality it's also extremely prudent to escape the ravages of taxation by stealth through insidious
inflation of the money supplies in fiat currencies, and by running to hard, real money instead for
safe haven in the "long term" scheme of things. Just beware of commissions reducing ones yield
and don't underestimate how damaging even modest commissions can be if trading often.

 And don't dare believe the nonsense that their isn't any inflation when the real rate of inflation is usually
much worse than any official stated rates. http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts

 Debt-based fiat currency is merely loaned into it's existence by private bankers at usury rates of interest
charged into perpetuity (forever).
It is sheer stupidity for any government and it's peoples to allow such debt based bondage (enslaving).
It's an act by evil bankers upon the unsuspecting masses and governments through fraud, corruption,
coercion, threats, and bribes, plus much, much more.

 Such debt-based fiat currency by it's very design must endlessly be debased (inflated) away, until finally
it reaches a value of zero as all debt-based fiat has done eventually throughout history. If the reader
doesn't understand why do your own search for the very reasons why this is so.

 Those in denial are just that: In Denial. Debt-based fiat currencies are all in terminal decline and meeting
failure after failure with endless counterfeiting as the only course of reaction while only decreasing the
time left before they all end in ruin for those left holding the savings in that type of soft currency.

 The real Smart Money, or at least the smartest of all Smart Money has long since shifted much of their
own savings into Hard Money, aka Real Money. i.e. gold, silver, other hard assets such as real estate,
and also into BITCOIN, which has already proven to be vastly superior to every fiat currency in all of history,
and is also likely to soon rival even gold as the hardest currency of all, and a new super reserve currency for
every  bank and government worldwide.

The real Smart Money has long since abandoned dollar based bonds that are now primed and pumped for
failure, just as government bonds across the globe are also primed and pumped for failure. And right when
corporation after corporation has gone the route of massive stock buybacks through issuing ever more bonds
at ever lower rates.

 Denial is the strongest of all human instincts. But make no mistake; the vast majority of the entire world is
financially collapsing while some are extremely busy building the new financial backbone of the future called
Bitcoin, and or it's Decentralized successors and competitors.


Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware!

If people in the US start preferring bitcoin to USD, then it would be a whole new ball game. It would dwarf the China effect.

If truly all this activities are going on within the various section of government it simply indicates the effect the btc community is having in the economy and the likelihood of it shaping the trend of exchange sooner than expected.

Federal Reserve-A Stunning Failure-James Corbett
http://usawatchdog.com/federal-reserve-a-stunning-failure-james-corbett/

 Presently it's said that 132 nations are turning away from trading in dollars as quickly as they possibly can going forward.

 Suddenly it's painfully apparent the Fed has lost complete control of their stranglehold on global trade in their dollars.

 Much has changed recently. Some are in complete denial. Another just today stated that Russia & China are "attacking us"
by way of no longer trading in dollars, but rather merely trading in their own currencies instead of someone else's dollars.

 No, their not attacking us per say. Instead their voting a no-confidence vote with their feet and own currencies because our
Masters at the Fed have grown insanely imprudent. As have our "Keep Borrowing & Spending till the end", and that in fact
"deficits don't matter" insanely stupid governments across the globe.

 Monetary prudence isn't the Fed, and never was the Fed. It's exactly the same for every other Central Bank the world over,
with only a couple of exceptions: Norway, and Russia.

 Central banks can't be all things to any government. And governments can't be all things to everyone. But neither has shown
any discipline nor prudence in almost my entire lifetime of greater than half a century.

 Fiscal prudence hasn't been the US Government for many decades. Nor almost no other governments either, with the same
two couple of exceptions: Norway, and Russia.

 Beware of all paper assets going forward that have any counter-party default risks, and of course of any bonds should interest
rates rapidly rise and thus horrifically devalue the bonds all while most may be trapped in them due to sudden lack of liquidity.
Saying nothing of the inability of almost every government to ever be able to keep indefinitely paying those bond holders in full.

 Ironically the safest, most rational stocks with the least amount of debts are much better wagers (gambles) than most other
assets today. But those too could lose up to the vast majority of their valuations for as long as decades before they again finally
fully recover their present valuations in real terms.

 Of course Real Hard Money (Gold, Silver, & now Bitcoin) are the obvious safe havens going forward. Just beware that many
governments may again force holders of gold to give it up to suddenly broke governments desperate for real money. It happened
just over 70 years ago with horrible terms, and penalties, and was in fact illegal to own for decades afterwards, much less trade.
And maybe the same fate awaits Bitcoin holders but I for one believe that not all will be forced into government coffers, and maybe
not any of them this time around the bend, per say.

 Hedge your wagers ladies & gentlemen. That's the best advice. And hedge for both massive inflation, and severe deflation, because
nothing is truly off the table depending on whom does what, or doesn't do what is expected, and whatever unexpected twists and
turns come down the rocky road ahead for all of us.

 The Fed is dying. In fact the entire Central Banking Scheme is dying world wide, as are it's parent organizations the IMF, the World
Bank and the BIS. As are all debt-based fiat currencies. Why? Because the debts are overwhelming them and their captive countries.
It's the DEBTS that are drowning both the countries and the central banks. Compounded Interest times Time equals untenable, and
unmanageable Debts that can never be repaid. Today there is far more debts than there is money. It is simply impossible to ever
pay off the debts. There are ways out of this mess but every avenue out has dire financial costs for all of us.

 It's not even remotely complicated. But then denial is one of the strongest human emotions.

 Financial experts and the professional Economist all what everyone else to believe it's extremely complicated and far above the
average persons ability to grasp. All so their long cons of Central Banking with privately & so termed publicly issued debt-based fiat
currencies can keep right on enslaving nation after nation, and their peoples, into perpetuity, for ever and ever.

 My favorite currency is the one I now save in: Bitcoin. But I also treasure gold & silver bullion coins too. And the best, most prudent
survivor type stocks that can ride out the worst of times.

 Nothing else appears safe except the most viable non-commercial rental properties, but they are already few and far between what
with the global real estate Bubble 2.0 already blown sky high once again. Of course should massive inflation truly be the course we're
destine to ride out then yes it will keep right on soaring ever higher and prove to be a good wager. But it's nothing less than a pure
gamble for the simplest of reasons: this could go either way.

 The strongest forces of capitalism are hammering the central banks and governments, all while the strongest forces of financial
depressions and deflationary forces are hammering all the attempts to re-inflate the economies. No one knows how this ends,
except to know that it ends badly for most. Anyone that thinks they know how this ends is merely guessing. And 'guessing is for
losers'.

 Although Bitcoin continues to be in my own eyes THE HUGE Winner going forward that may end up not being true. There are real
risks involved. Be prudent, be wise, diversify. Of course I don't always take my own advice, but that's another matter that is unique
to my own tolerance for larger risks as well as my own unique situation in life. I strongly urge everyone not to risk too much on any
one asset class, but instead to diversify and hedge for both massive inflation, and a deflationary Debt Default Collapse. Either is
certainly possible, and one or the other is inevitable in many experts opinions, and mine as well.

 I spelled out what I think is prudent, but the reader here is on their own. This is NOT offered as investment advice, and should not
be construed as such. I am NOT a professional investment adviser, and one should always consult their professional investment
adviser before making any investment choices.

 Just realize they too often have serious conflicts of interest unless you pay them merely a fee for their time. Always be keenly aware
of any and all potential conflicts of interest in all financial transactions. Failure to do that, and failure to do your own due diligence is
often the very downfall of most investors outcomes.

 Above all else: don't trust strangers on the internet, or on the financial news networks, or any stranger anywhere else. And always
tend to trust those that tended to be correction their historical analysis and opinions, and not those one trick ponies nor anyone merely
new to this arena. Do your due diligence or you may very well wish you had more than anything else.


In closing:
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 The fed is nearly dead as we all know it. So too are all central banks. Hopefully their abolished and completely outlawed, along with
all debt-based usury fiat currencies. Their an evil onto themselves, and of the sort that has no equal anywhere else. Their the most
diabolically evil institutions that have ever existed. Don't dare believe any of their lies and nonsense.

 The 1st step to sanity is abolishing central banking and ending all debt-based currencies. It's also the biggest fear of the banking class
of financial pirates called Bankers. But without abolishing them and their debt-enslaving currencies we will never have any real freedom.

 Governments can have their own debt-FREE currencies, or join the Decentralized Cryptocurrencies as they please. And all people should
be FREE to choose either their own governments "legal tender" currency, or alternatives to that should their own government not act
with monetary and fiscal prudence.

 But we certainly don't need any so termed "financial experts at central banks" to aid us in doing any worse than they have done for
centuries on end for both their captive governments and all of us: The People's of this World. For centuries central banking has been an
total failure. And complete disaster. Their credibility is completely obliterated and more today. Governments could do no worse, and in
fact almost infinitely better, let alone the superior properties inherent to Monetary Revolution termed Decentralized Cryptocurrencies.

 Independent Central Banking and their debt-based enslaving currencies are all almost dead. It may take a while more, but their surely
fading away, and dying out faster and faster as each and every day passes by. Their object failures and inherently grossly flawed. Their
untenable, and unmanageable. Only financial con artists, those in total denial, and charlatans plus many a fool would state otherwise.

 
RE:


How The U.S. Dollar Reserve Currency Dies… Slowly At First, Then All At Once
http://srsroccoreport.com/how-the-u-s-dollar-reserve-currency-dies-slowly-at-first-then-all-at-once/how-the-u-s-dollar-reserve-currency-dies-slowly-at-first-then-all-at-once/


 Yes they do explain that the fed is dying, and in fact it's almost dead, at least as we know it.
i.e. the fed is privately owned, and fully independent, thus answers to no one, and is not even at all
accountable to the US Government. Despite all the many lies and misinformation elsewhere I speak
the truth. Even Alan Greenspan has publicly admitted such truths, so has the Fed's legal council,
and so have federal government judges.

 Today here at bitcointalk.org we have many fed shills, and many other banking shills too, all whining
and crying out 'it ain't so'. WRONG. Plus bashing Bitcoin. You will fail. The future is not yours. Your
Masters rein is almost up, and so too is your parasitical existence.

 I speak the truth. Their full of crap. End of story.

 But maybe the link above will aid others that want to refuse to accept the bitter reality of what looms
large. Many will find themselves displaced no matter how talented they are in the coming years. It's
time for extreme prudence, and to start saving a lot of funds in a diversified portfolio of sound assets,
simply because life never turns out they way we hope, or expect, far too very often. Those sound
assets include plenty of bitcoins too btw.

 The vast majority of the world is now beginning to end their bi-lateral trade in Federal Reserve Notes
otherwise commonly called Dollars. Their fed up to the max with the fed and it's endless free lunch.
The Fed and Bank of England, with their subsidary central banks all throughout the western world have
caused extreme exploitation and oppression through financial tyranny for centuries on end. But not for
much longer. The world is a far smarter place today because of the internet and it's power to spread
knowledge that was hidden and denied, and that is still to this day denied. Such as the outright lie that
the Fed is "an independent branch of the US Government". That is a bold faced lie still told on
mainstream news. Why? Because the banksters hold controlling interest in those corporations too.

 Review the opening post of mine in this tread and those titles to all those links. That alone is enough to
realize that the dollar and the fed both are now in the majority of the worlds cross-hairs. That alone
should send a chill right up any sane, rational, thinking Amerikan's spine.

Facts:
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  The Fed loans our dollars to the US Government/Treasury, at interest, Usury rates of interest, into
perpetuity (forever). For every dollar there is a a dollar of debt, plus the interest on that debt, so that
there is always more debt than dollars, thus making it impossible to ever pay off our debts. Thus
assuring we're all enslaved to the criminal bankster gangster cartel called the Fed into perpetuity.
Until of course the government says no more.

 We cannot afford that. This year alone it will cost nearly half a Trillion dollars in interest alone, and
that is at record low rates of interest because we would never be able to pay higher rates. In fact we
have to borrow the money to pay our Interest payments this year, and for every year going forward,
just like we have for decades.

 The Fed Broke the USA, busted it out, many decades ago. And now is finishing extracting all the
wealth left out of their client state called the USA Inc, and it's citizen slaves. That is why the Fed is
nearly dead. The USA is much worse than merely broke. It's utterly insolvent to the extreme, just like
almost every nation on this earth, truth be told.

 It wont be long before even the USA's Govt. will find the situation as untenable as the vast majority
already do. And the Fed is well aware of this fact. That is why they have been stealing everything in
site with abandon for 14 years now. And why their member banks (shareholders) have committed
endless amounts of felonies for the very same reasons. Plus all the while knowing they are currently
above the laws because they have the US Congress, and the Judges all in their back pockets, not to
mention the past and present White House Administrations, the DOJ, the SEC, and countless other
Federal Agencies and Regulatory bodies. BUT NOT FOR MUCH LONGER. It's untenable already. And
very soon the fed is dead, and so too is the dollar as we all knew it.

 Sure the "dollar" may well survive, but it wont be "the same dollar" at all. Nor in the hands of
Private Banksters, and loaned to all of us. NOT A CHANCE that it or their dollar survives.

 Only Debt-Free Dollars have any chance of surviving into the future versus real money alternatives
such as Bitcoin, Gold, Silver, and various other alternatives. Why is this? Financial bondage/slavery
will be abolished, that's why. The Public will demand it. So too will their respective governments very
soon.

 Debt-Based Currencies are tools that were utilized for centuries on end, up to the present point in
time to enslave the entire world, less the axis of evil countries which didn't have debt-based usury
currencies. How quaint. pun intended. In other words the Banksters demand full spectrum dominance
of every last country on this earth. And should any of them balk then they are sooner or later brought
back into the fold one way, or another. But that's another lesson not to be discussed further here.

 Only ignorant idiots and financial parasites defend the Fed. Or defend the Bank of England, or any of
their other subsidiary western central banks. In fact as another puts it: All Wars are Banker Wars.

 Fact is both the City of London and Manhattan are also dying.

 The biggest future financial centers of the world will likely be elsewhere instead.
Much like Detroit died so too will the City of London, and likely it's the same for Manhattan too.
Although we're getting about a decade or more ahead of ourselves speaking of that looming period of
time.

 Make no mistake: The world has turned their collective backs on the Dollar. Blame Congress, blame
Obama, or Bush, or better yet blame the actions of The Federal Reserve Incorporated (fed), and it's
member banks that own the fed, because after all, it's the fed and their member banks that are the
true rulers of Amerika today. But their rein is fast coming to a quick, sudden end. Bribery, blackmail,
coercion, and threats, along with murders and tortures will only take anything so far, until suddenly
they are in the cross-hairs, and become the hunted, instead of the hunters and masters.


One Last thing:
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 America died. It was exported to elsewhere. All while it's still busy importing new slaves willing to
work for low wages that other Amerikan's refuse to work for. And of course for the not so well kept
secret that Amerika's tax base can't support it's soon to be giant group of retiree's due to it's killing
of 40+ million unborn American's through abortion murders. So import them instead we seemingly
must. Either that or our tax base is surely doomed as we keep rapidly aging and there isn't enough
young people to take over the reins and support the older generations, not to mention purchase
the many stocks and other assets such as real estate as older generations downsize and spend down
their assets to merely survive.

From NAFTA to all the Immigrant Visa programs allowing the importation of Tech Workers and now
many Doctors, to all the other lower paid willing foreign "professionals" America died a very long time
ago.

 Today it's fully hollowed out, much like Detroit. And the cancer is systemic now, and fully malignant.
Only a full scale overhaul and rebuilding can hope to fix the many things that must be fixed in order
for America to ever be re-born. And it wont include the fed either, nor their debt-based dollar scam.

 America already died. Or didn't the reader get that memo either? Sleep walking and drinking the
official news cool-aid (propaganda) will cause such a thing. Best turn off the main stream news on
the TV and start doing your research fast, because otherwise your apt to be part of the vast majority
of new age financial neo-fuedalist slaves until things start turning around, and America is finally re-born.


How The U.S. Dollar Reserve Currency Dies… Slowly At First, Then All At Once
http://srsroccoreport.com/how-the-u-s-dollar-reserve-currency-dies-slowly-at-first-then-all-at-once/how-the-u-s-dollar-reserve-currency-dies-slowly-at-first-then-all-at-once/


Make no mistake: We're already in World War 3.

From sanctions to the near global revolt against the PetroDollar for bi-lateral trading the world is
already well into World War 3.

How it ends is up to debate.


 Bitcoin is a big part of The Future.
It will also greatly aid in keeping governments in check, by helping to prevent them from
overspending, and thus over printing too much debt-free currency. And should they do that then
people will flee to much sounder Stores of Value, such as bitcoin's and gold bullion.


 Bitcoin is pure genius.
http://nakamotoinstitute.org/literature/

It's corrupt for sure, but none of those links really descrive how it is 'dead'.

I'm sure it'll last a lot longer than people think. It's probably not sustainable, but it's gone on for this long.