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Topic: The Final Satoshi [UPDATED] 4 BTC UP FOR GRABS - page 3. (Read 4790 times)

full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 100
You guys are really killing me...  Shocked. If you send me uncomfirmed coins chances are they will take longer than 25 minutes to hit 1st confirmation causing the site to assume you are trying to lock-out and cancelling your claim to the Final Satoshi. I've upped the time for it to wait for 1st confirmation, but please try to help on your side.


I've had to issue 3 refunds today, but it's all just helping shell out a much better and efficient product. Thanks for taking the journey with us!

How can I send you coins that are already confirmed?  You should assume that the new person owns the coin with 0 confirmations, but not pay the old owner until the confirms come in.  Then just roll back if the confirms fail.

Hey,

Say for instance you receive coins from satoshi dice or something but they are not yet confirmed but are available to spend. If you send those coins to an address they won't confirm until the satoshi dice payout confirms in your wallet. So there is an extended delay on confirmation relaying to the site. Instead of the usual 10 minutes for confirmation it can take anywhere to as much as 20! As for why I don't pay the old owner, it's because the system is fully automated. Also, let's consider scenarios like steals and releases. Without the 1st confirmation to make sure the payment is legit there is a lot of room for errors and mix-ups down the road.  It's overall a lot more easier for the other players, the site, and myself if the new person takes possession after confirmation.

I hope my explanation was clear, and if you have any more question feel free to inquire.

BTW, congratulations to the new owner High Overlord Sothhus.



Oh, sorry, did not realize that payment had not been confirmed.  (My coinbase wallet did not make that clear.)

What about the option to pay more than the next bid?  For example, current bid is at .214.  What if you allow someone to buy it for any price they want, as long as its over that?

That way, if I want to keep my name on the board longer, I can bid like .5 btc.  The previous owner gets a lot more profit, and I don't have to keep rebuying to keep my name up.

Great idea! I'm gonna start coding this right now... sort of like a max bid? So you would send X amount to cover the automatic buy back of The Final Satoshi until it reached price XX.  I'll try to have this option available ASAP.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
You guys are really killing me...  Shocked. If you send me uncomfirmed coins chances are they will take longer than 25 minutes to hit 1st confirmation causing the site to assume you are trying to lock-out and cancelling your claim to the Final Satoshi. I've upped the time for it to wait for 1st confirmation, but please try to help on your side.


I've had to issue 3 refunds today, but it's all just helping shell out a much better and efficient product. Thanks for taking the journey with us!

How can I send you coins that are already confirmed?  You should assume that the new person owns the coin with 0 confirmations, but not pay the old owner until the confirms come in.  Then just roll back if the confirms fail.

Hey,

Say for instance you receive coins from satoshi dice or something but they are not yet confirmed but are available to spend. If you send those coins to an address they won't confirm until the satoshi dice payout confirms in your wallet. So there is an extended delay on confirmation relaying to the site. Instead of the usual 10 minutes for confirmation it can take anywhere to as much as 20! As for why I don't pay the old owner, it's because the system is fully automated. Also, let's consider scenarios like steals and releases. Without the 1st confirmation to make sure the payment is legit there is a lot of room for errors and mix-ups down the road.  It's overall a lot more easier for the other players, the site, and myself if the new person takes possession after confirmation.

I hope my explanation was clear, and if you have any more question feel free to inquire.

BTW, congratulations to the new owner High Overlord Sothhus.



Oh, sorry, did not realize that payment had not been confirmed.  (My coinbase wallet did not make that clear.)

What about the option to pay more than the next bid?  For example, current bid is at .214.  What if you allow someone to buy it for any price they want, as long as its over that?

That way, if I want to keep my name on the board longer, I can bid like .5 btc.  The previous owner gets a lot more profit, and I don't have to keep rebuying to keep my name up.
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 100
You guys are really killing me...  Shocked. If you send me uncomfirmed coins chances are they will take longer than 25 minutes to hit 1st confirmation causing the site to assume you are trying to lock-out and cancelling your claim to the Final Satoshi. I've upped the time for it to wait for 1st confirmation, but please try to help on your side.


I've had to issue 3 refunds today, but it's all just helping shell out a much better and efficient product. Thanks for taking the journey with us!

How can I send you coins that are already confirmed?  You should assume that the new person owns the coin with 0 confirmations, but not pay the old owner until the confirms come in.  Then just roll back if the confirms fail.

Hey,

Say for instance you receive coins from satoshi dice or something but they are not yet confirmed but are available to spend. If you send those coins to an address they won't confirm until the satoshi dice payout confirms in your wallet. So there is an extended delay on confirmation relaying to the site. Instead of the usual 10 minutes for confirmation it can take anywhere to as much as 20! As for why I don't pay the old owner, it's because the system is fully automated. Also, let's consider scenarios like steals and releases. Without the 1st confirmation to make sure the payment is legit there is a lot of room for errors and mix-ups down the road.  It's overall a lot more easier for the other players, the site, and myself if the new person takes possession after confirmation.

I hope my explanation was clear, and if you have any more question feel free to inquire.

BTW, congratulations to the new owner High Overlord Sothhus.

full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
You guys are really killing me...  Shocked. If you send me uncomfirmed coins chances are they will take longer than 25 minutes to hit 1st confirmation causing the site to assume you are trying to lock-out and cancelling your claim to the Final Satoshi. I've upped the time for it to wait for 1st confirmation, but please try to help on your side.


I've had to issue 3 refunds today, but it's all just helping shell out a much better and efficient product. Thanks for taking the journey with us!

How can I send you coins that are already confirmed?  You should assume that the new person owns the coin with 0 confirmations, but not pay the old owner until the confirms come in.  Then just roll back if the confirms fail.
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 100
You guys are really killing me...  Shocked. If you send me uncomfirmed coins chances are they will take longer than 25 minutes to hit 1st confirmation causing the site to assume you are trying to lock-out and cancelling your claim to the Final Satoshi. I've upped the time for it to wait for 1st confirmation, but please try to help on your side.


I've had to issue 3 refunds today, but it's all just helping shell out a much better and efficient product. Thanks for taking the journey with us!
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 100

I bought:

19e73ffe5d1176798aef92e26d39f817cde39e4737a3628b95e464c9d69fda65

Still not own with name tidu...

Issue has been fixed but I need a return address to send your coins to. Thanks for reporting.
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
I bought:

19e73ffe5d1176798aef92e26d39f817cde39e4737a3628b95e464c9d69fda65

Still not own with name tidu...
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 100
SITE IS BACK UP.
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 100
The site appears to be down at the moment. Oh well, it's all mine anyway  Cheesy

It is indeed yours right now, we are rolling out some updates. Expect the site to be back up in a few hours before height time.
member
Activity: 106
Merit: 10
The site appears to be down at the moment. Oh well, it's all mine anyway  Cheesy
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 100
Congratulations to our first successful thief:

1752xWJWSMrgdVniW5sA59vKR7vrUUCJaq stole the Satoshi for 0.122 btc

EDIT:

Updating steal module so that thief takes over The Final Satoshi at the current price instead of at price he/she paid to steal it. Also increased 1 confirmation timeout to 25 minutes.
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 100
"This is a 10% profit (0.221 btc) for you."

In the intro on the first page, you might want to change the 10% profit number to actually reflect 10%. I like the game and idea Smiley Its a nice spin

The number in the brackets is exactly how much you would receive into your Wallet rounded to the 3rd decimal place. But yes, I see how that could be confusing and will update it. Thanks for the feedback!
sr. member
Activity: 328
Merit: 250
"This is a 10% profit (0.221 btc) for you."

In the intro on the first page, you might want to change the 10% profit number to actually reflect 10%. I like the game and idea Smiley Its a nice spin
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 100
Really cool game.  Playing now.

Thank you for the positive feedback. New patch is now up and running.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
Really cool game.  Playing now.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1000
Okay because everyone is not as honest as we would like. We have patched the game. This means:

IF YOU SEND A TRANSACTION WITH NO FEE, WE WILL ASSUME IT WAS WITH THE ILL INTENTION OF STALLING THE GAME. ALL TRANSACTIONS NOW HAVE A 15 MINUTE CONFIRMATION TIME OUT, SO IF 1 CONFIRMATION IS NOT MET WITHIN 15 MINUTES YOU LOSE CLAIMS TO THE FINAL SATOSHI AND MUST BE ISSUED A MANUAL REFUND WITH A FEE DEDUCTED.

I'm sorry for any legit people this may effect but now you know that you cannot simply send transactions without a fee. The site was in lock down for 24 hours because of this and it is unfair to other players as well as to us, who have to handle bad press and monetary loss from advertising.

Thank You!

Hey man, I totally agree, I have updated my client to include a higher default transaction fee
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 100
Okay because everyone is not as honest as we would like. We have patched the game. This means:

IF YOU SEND A TRANSACTION WITH NO FEE, WE WILL ASSUME IT WAS WITH THE ILL INTENTION OF STALLING THE GAME. ALL TRANSACTIONS NOW HAVE A 15 MINUTE CONFIRMATION TIME OUT, SO IF 1 CONFIRMATION IS NOT MET WITHIN 15 MINUTES YOU LOSE CLAIMS TO THE FINAL SATOSHI AND MUST BE ISSUED A MANUAL REFUND WITH A FEE DEDUCTED.

I'm sorry for any legit people this may effect but now you know that you cannot simply send transactions without a fee. The site was in lock down for 24 hours because of this and it is unfair to other players as well as to us, who have to handle bad press and monetary loss from advertising.

Thank You!

EDIT:

I felt it was important to mention; if you send a payment yet it does not confirm in 15 minutes you do still lose claims. However if we see it was not with ill-intentions and that you did indeed include a fee we won't deduct our own fee and will refund you what you paid. The fee deduction from our side is simply to prevent lock-outs.
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 100
When you send payment include the fee. NOT cool. I will start implementing consequences for repeat offenders.
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 100
I'm in for a bit of fun Smiley

Network's taking a while to confirm though

Can you exaggerate on this? Are you having issues with buying/stealing/releasing?
member
Activity: 106
Merit: 10
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