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October 26, 2016, 01:09:51 PM
#32
Actually they can pre-mine the coin and well, if they are creating a coin, for sure they will make things like put your name on the wallet and track all your transactions, don't matter how the future will be, for sure the government will regule your life and you will have to pay taxes.

Exactly, no government would accept a currency as their own if they have no access on it at all, if bitcoin is legalized it would probably be an alternative currency but the main currency of a country always be the ones that is in control of government.
Yeah it's going to be regulated and controlled by goverments if ever it becomes mainstream and bitcoin may have a lot of changes by then. But i think fiat would still be the one in control of the market. I think it hold is too firm on people that some may have a hard time moving to an alternative

I think the governments will not regulate the bitcoin itself. They will only regulate the ownership of the bitcoin.
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October 26, 2016, 07:36:38 AM
#31
Actually they can pre-mine the coin and well, if they are creating a coin, for sure they will make things like put your name on the wallet and track all your transactions, don't matter how the future will be, for sure the government will regule your life and you will have to pay taxes.

Exactly, no government would accept a currency as their own if they have no access on it at all, if bitcoin is legalized it would probably be an alternative currency but the main currency of a country always be the ones that is in control of government.
Yeah it's going to be regulated and controlled by goverments if ever it becomes mainstream and bitcoin may have a lot of changes by then. But i think fiat would still be the one in control of the market. I think it hold is too firm on people that some may have a hard time moving to an alternative
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October 26, 2016, 05:41:52 AM
#30
Actually they can pre-mine the coin and well, if they are creating a coin, for sure they will make things like put your name on the wallet and track all your transactions, don't matter how the future will be, for sure the government will regule your life and you will have to pay taxes.

Exactly, no government would accept a currency as their own if they have no access on it at all, if bitcoin is legalized it would probably be an alternative currency but the main currency of a country always be the ones that is in control of government.
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October 26, 2016, 05:25:19 AM
#29
It's not possible for the cash to be ruled out.. because each countries have it's own value when it comes to their currency. Yes I agree also which country will handle bitcoins soon there will be a lot of discussions and arguments once government intervene with bitcoins.
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October 26, 2016, 04:38:32 AM
#28
Actually they can pre-mine the coin and well, if they are creating a coin, for sure they will make things like put your name on the wallet and track all your transactions, don't matter how the future will be, for sure the government will regule your life and you will have to pay taxes.

Exactly! Just I don't think we should just stand and watch that happen. That`s why bitcoin is here, to give us one more choice. Future is very unpredictable and there will be surprises, at least now we have opportunity to support bitcoin as decentralized network, and we can also hope that people of the world will recognize what is good and what is bad.
MMF coin is not so far away from the truth, but will people start to use it? I presume we will be forced to do it by our governments if they create some coin like this one.
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October 26, 2016, 04:23:33 AM
#27
Actually they can pre-mine the coin and well, if they are creating a coin, for sure they will make things like put your name on the wallet and track all your transactions, don't matter how the future will be, for sure the government will regule your life and you will have to pay taxes.
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October 26, 2016, 03:51:18 AM
#26
It is sure that future money will be digitalizedone but there is no assurity that blockchain concept will be used unless everyone is literate enough to understand just a hint of what they are handling.
No way blockchain will be use, we are talking here of the entire human race, there's a big question on who will represent for bitcoin and how the government will ensure that system of bitcoin to comply with the laws of the state, I think that is not possible.
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October 26, 2016, 03:46:27 AM
#25
Gold unlike crypto-currencies can't go down in price to zero in the worst case it is just a valuable technical metal will remain...separate gold is not difficult, if you know how to do it and also have the necessary expensive equipment. In practice, however, this process is not available to the common man. At the same time, anyone can divide a bitcoin into pieces up to eight decimal digits each. If necessary, the division could go on and on. Moreover, this operation is capable of any computer system. Such things happen automatically during each transaction. In addition, you can create any amount of free wallets to store your money in small fractions of bitcoins. There may be hundreds or thousands — there are no restrictions.

Yes it is true that gold is always a very important technical metal because of it being  better conductor on most of metals available in this planet.  It is also proven a symbol of greatness and wellness in life.  Gold will never be obsolete and will never goes down to worthlessness.
I think that allot of peopel here think that th ebitcoin is going to overrule the money but i dont think this is going to work becuase lots of people will let the bitcoin down off course because money is everything we need.
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October 26, 2016, 03:28:40 AM
#24
That seems to be the direction that's being pursued behind closed doors (R3CEV); however, the social and political changes that drive the adoption of bitcoin and similar technologies will be lost if controlled by a group of elites.  A value that is inherent in the blockchain technologies that I believe is being underestimated is the value associated with their networking possibilities themselves.  Our currencies are changing in such a way that their utility is far more relevant than merely a tool used as means of exchange or a device to store wealth....The monetizing of information propagation thru micro-payments and peer to peer networking is enormously important in a world which is controlled by an elitist group....Think about it.
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October 25, 2016, 11:15:22 PM
#23
It is sure that future money will be digitalizedone but there is no assurity that blockchain concept will be used unless everyone is literate enough to understand just a hint of what they are handling.
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October 25, 2016, 11:13:36 PM
#22
Paper money will be gone for many countries until 2020 probably. Everyone will prefer paying and receiving money on their wrists instead of having to take money out of their pocket etc.. It sounds easier, way easier but here we've got a lot of risks like hackers that we'll see EVERYWHERE around us trying to steal.

ITs  still impossible for  cash  to disappear on that said year and  im sure  cash would still remain  even  further  more because  no matter  how those  cryptos or  digital currencies would  fly on upcoming years but still its not  possible   to make cash  would  disappear so easily. Fiat does  play  big role  on economic activity all over the  world. We could  not really stop  the world  on evolving  regarding  on  technology  aspects  and we would really  love to see cashless world  but still   fiat would  remain and also government would  not  let  this things to  happen.
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October 25, 2016, 10:11:58 PM
#21
What cryptocurrency and blockchain technology has shown is that it would be now possible to "mint" your own private money and put that in circulation. Of course no single individual would be successful without the help of a community around it to help support it and make it grow the user base. POW based coins are a good example of what the future of money could look like. It's secure, it's peer to peer and there's no centralized power that controls it. It's a historical breakthrough.
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October 25, 2016, 05:44:52 PM
#20
Paper money will be gone for many countries until 2020 probably. Everyone will prefer paying and receiving money on their wrists instead of having to take money out of their pocket etc.. It sounds easier, way easier but here we've got a lot of risks like hackers that we'll see EVERYWHERE around us trying to steal.
Unlikely cash will disappear by 2020. Then again, it is possible due to the crazy year we've had and all these things we've seen being revealed as true even though we staunchly believed that it wasn't possible.

I personally prefer cash, and there are only a few ways to convince me that a fully digital system is a better economic form of exchange. Too much power is handed away.
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October 25, 2016, 05:33:57 PM
#19
Paper money will be gone for many countries until 2020 probably. Everyone will prefer paying and receiving money on their wrists instead of having to take money out of their pocket etc.. It sounds easier, way easier but here we've got a lot of risks like hackers that we'll see EVERYWHERE around us trying to steal.
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October 25, 2016, 05:32:13 PM
#18
May be in future paper money will be not used in every day normal buys/sells in merchants which is quite a reality in most of the developed cities around the world.

Bigger part of payment processor industry may be under bitcoin related projects like bitcoin debit cards, bitcoin itself as payment system.

On future also there will be high manipulation on share markets by big whales and governments. Even in future there will be high taxes to make richer more richer and poor people more poorer.

In some countries, the use of bitcoin is limited. More prospects for the blockchain technology behind bitcoin: it is able to simplify and transactions in gold, says Sprott CEO Peter Grosskopf. In the investment prospects of bitcoin, he believes: "We will invest in the digitization of gold, but the gold will remain faithful."The gold market is much more market of bitcoins. Just released $6.8 billion bitcoins (estimate Blockchain) whereas gold is made transactions for $150-240 billion a day (world gold Council). Investments exchange-traded funds in gold – about $80 billion

And how's Peter Grosskopf's digitized gold different from BitGold of the BitShares fame? Last time I checked, the whole BitShares shebang had a market cap of something like $11M, collapsing from the all time high of nearly $59M in October, 2014, with a daily volume of approximately $50k as of recent...



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There are no real assets behind BitAssets, i.e., there is no gold in a vault backing BitGold. However, BitGold is backed by an equivalent value of BTSX, so it isn’t like it isn’t backed by anything. If you want BitGold, you need to put up collateral in the form of BTSX

Yeah, but we already knew that, didn't we?
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October 25, 2016, 04:46:25 PM
#17
May be in future paper money will be not used in every day normal buys/sells in merchants which is quite a reality in most of the developed cities around the world.

Bigger part of payment processor industry may be under bitcoin related projects like bitcoin debit cards, bitcoin itself as payment system.

On future also there will be high manipulation on share markets by big whales and governments. Even in future there will be high taxes to make richer more richer and poor people more poorer.



In some countries, the use of bitcoin is limited. More prospects for the blockchain technology behind bitcoin: it is able to simplify and transactions in gold, says Sprott CEO Peter Grosskopf. In the investment prospects of bitcoin, he believes: "We will invest in the digitization of gold, but the gold will remain faithful."The gold market is much more market of bitcoins. Just released $6.8 billion bitcoins (estimate Blockchain) whereas gold is made transactions for $150-240 billion a day (world gold Council). Investments exchange-traded funds in gold – about $80 billion.
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October 25, 2016, 01:29:01 PM
#16
May be in future paper money will be not used in every day normal buys/sells in merchants which is quite a reality in most of the developed cities around the world.

Bigger part of payment processor industry may be under bitcoin related projects like bitcoin debit cards, bitcoin itself as payment system.

On future also there will be high manipulation on share markets by big whales and governments. Even in future there will be high taxes to make richer more richer and poor people more poorer.
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October 25, 2016, 12:58:23 PM
#15
I think you're looking at it wrong, the 'elite' are a consequence and not the cause of the current system. They appear to have the power to control the direction the world takes when in fact they have no say in the unfolding of events. They only pretend that they have the power and the non-elite believe them. It's mind control not real power.
 
That's how Tintin gets out of a tight spot in 'Prisoners of the sun'. He pretends to have the power to banish the sun and the Inca believes him when all of a sudden the sun starts to dim because of an eclipse   Roll Eyes

Tintin is a good story but I believe the world system is a different one.

See my post A Brief History of Modern Money for my take on the modern system.

The transition from one global empire to the next requires long-range planning.  It would very much be in the interest of the financial elite to manage this transition smoothly.  If not, the consequences are terrible for them.
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October 25, 2016, 12:42:07 PM
#14
Okay, but how would it then be different from Bitcoin if anyone can mine it?

It would be no different in this regard.  That is precisely the point: make it resemble Bitcoin as much as possible to gain public confidence.  (It would likely have the anonymity feature, too, I imagine.)

Also, if your Imfcoin is to back up national currencies (like gold was backing up dollars up to a certain point), it shouldn't be used directly as a currency. Otherwise, there will be a case for a special kind of Gresham's Law, but even closer to the original idea than the interpretation I suggested a few year ago here. In short, why would the elites want the populace to mine it, and why would then the latter want to mine it?

In most cases, imfcoins wouldn't be used to transact, but would be a good place to park your savings in some situations.  If you're a Thai and you suspect your government is issuing too much debt, you convert some of your Bahts into Imfcoin until the danger is over, or as a long term store of value.  This is not different from the role of gold during the gold standard, or the role of dollars in many countries today.

I think I understand what you mean by Gresham's Law operating in this world.  While stability holds, Gresham's Law won't operate, because there is bank interest.  During the gold standard, holding gold earned no return and holders were losing more to inflation than holders of paper money deposits, while stability lasted.  (For the same reason, developing countries today have much higher bank interest than dollar deposits anywhere.)  Again, there would be no difference with Imfcoin.

How could it possibly give more stability to crippling economies?

In the same way as the gold standard while the state had enough gold to hold the system stable.  It was only after states ran out of gold (after runs on the gold during crises of confidence) that the gold standard became a 'bad idea' according to establishment economists.  Trust me, the elites would love to go back to the gold standard (with the economic profession changing tune again) if it were not for the embarrassment.  Here is one good way to do it, from their point of view.
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October 25, 2016, 06:35:15 AM
#13
The future of money is, that most probably paper money will be replaced with plastic money. But paper money will be in use many years ahead. Many poor countries from Asia, etc. are using only paper money, they do not have Internet connections in shops - so, they can not use credit cards.  Grin
Paper money can not be replace of plastik money like credit card becuase paper money is use all over the world and it is hard to replace it as you sais many country poor they can not provide to get a credit card so nothing can replace our paper money.
are you sure with "plastic money" ? credit card is not a plastic money because credit card is actually digitalize your fiat to make your transaction in digital world simple and instant,it's not plastic money at all if you are actually know what it is
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