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February 07, 2021, 06:44:19 AM
#48


I would expect the authorities are working hard to do so. Black markets are always hurting the government because no taxes are collected. And it probably going to be very hard to keep these black casinos a secret. Once people start losing a lot of money they might feel cheated and will report the casino to the government. Also there is no real protection for the gamblers, I wouldn't risk my money on one of these places.

These underground gambling sites are just hub or cover for illegal drugs, prostitution and even gun running only people with bad reputation are going to these places to transact, if you have a good name to protect better not play here or even go here out of curiosity, every country have this kind of activity not only in Britain.
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February 07, 2021, 06:33:15 AM
#47


Now why should it be a matter of concern?
- With the new Variant already in the UK these illegal platforms might be a hub for the fast spread of COVID plaguing the whole world
-there is no minor protection policies
-more illegal things are drug dealing and money laundering might be connected with such cases.




These three is enough reason to shut down these gambling black market, the black market is always associated to something bad and illegal and if this is the reason why there is a spread of CoVid then it's enough reason to do a drastic action.


I would expect the authorities are working hard to do so. Black markets are always hurting the government because no taxes are collected. And it probably going to be very hard to keep these black casinos a secret. Once people start losing a lot of money they might feel cheated and will report the casino to the government. Also there is no real protection for the gamblers, I wouldn't risk my money on one of these places.
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February 07, 2021, 05:33:04 AM
#46


Now why should it be a matter of concern?
- With the new Variant already in the UK these illegal platforms might be a hub for the fast spread of COVID plaguing the whole world
-there is no minor protection policies
-more illegal things are drug dealing and money laundering might be connected with such cases.




These three is enough reason to shut down these gambling black market, the black market is always associated to something bad and illegal and if this is the reason why there is a spread of CoVid then it's enough reason to do a drastic action.
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February 07, 2021, 02:38:25 AM
#45
Black market gambling will always be around and not only in Britain but every where. Why? Cause some people enjoy it cause of the free will to do anything.

One way the government can reduce it since its inevitable to take it down completely it is to regulate the gambling industry with this some people won't think of the black market.

And no, I would never try the gambling black market, that is too much risk.
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February 07, 2021, 01:46:03 AM
#44
I have used "black market" gambling in a sort of way, I gamble on crypto sportsbooks and thats not allowed in my nation, we already have sportsbooks that are legal here but their odds are nowhere near the same, they are very very bad, and they are not paying good for both sides as well, if it was just favorites with lower odds but underdogs higher odds I would understand but they are paying low odds for both sides and even the draw.

So, I do gamble on black market because places that are legit and allowed screws you over with the odds and do not pay you great deal of profit, which is why I think it is obvious that we are in a situation where black markets are a better option to gamble than real sportsbooks. Even if a place that we all love in black market ends up getting a legit license, they turn to being worse, so basically being licensed and legit makes a place worse.
I don't think that counts as a black market gambling, more like illegal gambling. Though they can be said to be the same, your case was that it was illegal in your country, afaik black market gambling is illegal in ALL countries. They don't have strict identity rules and what not, and only follow internal rules set up by the private organization behind that industry. I do have to agree though, casinos would sometimes just simply screw up your payments from time to time without reason, and even talking to their support at times wouldn't really provide anything substantial to fix the problem. Idk how the black market works with their service, though I'd reckon they follow the rules they set properly so as to avoid too much communication with customers.
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February 06, 2021, 11:59:49 PM
#43
I think the tradeoff in black market is you can also get screwed over by no payouts, or arbitrary rules that you can't complain over. I know you're probably in Asia like most of us, so actually before bitcoin came along we all had to use black market bookies;)

It's cost saving and time saving, but I never feel comfortable paying a lot in case something goes wrong.

The black market bookies are available in many countries, but that is not exposed to the public, and only some people know about the place that playing gambling on that place. Perhaps, that is the consequences for people who use the black market bookies to trade or gambling. Even after bitcoin came along, the black market bookies will still available because some people feel comfortable placing their bet on that service. They can accept the rule from that bookies, and even if they don't have a chance to win, they still come to play gambling.
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February 06, 2021, 12:17:14 PM
#42
So, I do gamble on black market because places that are legit and allowed screws you over with the odds and do not pay you great deal of profit, which is why I think it is obvious that we are in a situation where black markets are a better option to gamble than real sportsbooks. Even if a place that we all love in black market ends up getting a legit license, they turn to being worse, so basically being licensed and legit makes a place worse.

I think the tradeoff in black market is you can also get screwed over by no payouts, or arbitrary rules that you can't complain over. I know you're probably in Asia like most of us, so actually before bitcoin came along we all had to use black market bookies;)

It's cost saving and time saving, but I never feel comfortable paying a lot in case something goes wrong.
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February 06, 2021, 06:52:14 AM
#41
Have you ever used illegal black market to make a bet ? Gamble ? When the normal opportunities were not available ? But what do we think about Britain? In the Britain the black market gambling have more than just doubled , which is a matter of concern for everyone and not just the government.

-Despite having Gambling as a controlled legal sport the black market continues to flourish. WHY ?
What are your opinions?

https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/11001/new-bgc-research-shows-number-of-customers-using-black-market-sites-has-more-than-doubled

Now why should it be a matter of concern?
- With the new Variant already in the UK these illegal platforms might be a hub for the fast spread of COVID plaguing the whole world
-there is no minor protection policies
-more illegal things are drug dealing and money laundering might be connected with such cases.

I do think the government needs to actually look forth for their licensing policies they time and again force the small gambling companies to shut off their business but at the same time doing it illegally doesn't make it any less of a crime.

What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?
It is easy to see why there is a black market for gambling, casinos are heavily taxed and while they can still earn great profits out of it many people prefer to open illegal casinos and get more profits that way, but then why customers use illegal casinos? One answer is that they do not know they are using an illegal casino, but another option is that since the casino is not paying taxes they could offer better odds to their customers and they prefer to use such casino despite its illegal nature.

Its hard to digest that statement that they didn't know if the casino is illegal since they can always do a certain verification to know if they are dealing with legal and not, But what I think many people choose to play in black market gambling is due to restrictions what legal have also people want anonymity as well some of  black market casino is so exciting to play especially if we know the risk and how the play executed.
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February 06, 2021, 05:37:29 AM
#40
Have you ever used illegal black market to make a bet ? Gamble ? When the normal opportunities were not available ?
I have used "black market" gambling in a sort of way, I gamble on crypto sportsbooks and thats not allowed in my nation, we already have sportsbooks that are legal here but their odds are nowhere near the same, they are very very bad, and they are not paying good for both sides as well, if it was just favorites with lower odds but underdogs higher odds I would understand but they are paying low odds for both sides and even the draw.

So, I do gamble on black market because places that are legit and allowed screws you over with the odds and do not pay you great deal of profit, which is why I think it is obvious that we are in a situation where black markets are a better option to gamble than real sportsbooks. Even if a place that we all love in black market ends up getting a legit license, they turn to being worse, so basically being licensed and legit makes a place worse.
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February 06, 2021, 01:43:28 AM
#39
I have gambled in the black market countless of times. Black market gambling in this part of the world is strongly prevalent, although I would say that Britain's black gambling market is definitely different from ours.

I cannot tell for sure the real situation in Britain, but what I can probably say is that the gambling black market in Britain might not be characterized with poverty. From where I am speaking, depressed areas are places where illegal gambling thrives. Many of these illegal gambling games are often preying on the poor who are actually much heavier gamblers than the rich in terms of income and gambling expenses ratio.
I agree, black market gambling thrives in a poor country, I guess this is a way to past their time or just simply wanted to gamble for a quick money. And I would say that in Asia, it is prevalent as government lack of control and corruption is still the main reason why this underground gambling continues. And then we have corruption, most of the time the elected officials like the Mayors and Governors are the one protecting this illegal bookies. But I don't think that is applicable to Great Britain.
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February 06, 2021, 01:25:04 AM
#38
In my opinion, the black market gambling not only growing in England. But in some countries where gambling activities are prohibited, there is
always black market gambling. And in my country the government indeed prohibits gambling activity in any form, so some gambling addicts who
don't have the money to go to a country where playing gambling is legal, prefer to play the Black market gambling. I never wanted to be in trouble
with the police so avoid playing the black market gambling, I prefer to play online gambling using a VPN.

I think a week ago (or a bit more) we had a thread about illegal gambling in Thailand! I researched that topic and found out what's happening there... maybe two days ago in my local newspaper I saw they busted 3 houses where some people organized illegal gambling activities, all 3 houses are closed! Now we read about black market in Britain...
So you are right Shasha, it's happening around the world, and probably these illegal casinos are for people on the margins, outcasts of any kind... people who don't like to go to fancy legal houses, or they can't go there, or simply they don't think they have enough money to play in legal casinos... Whatever the case is this illegal casinos exist, and as it looks like governments can't do anything about it!
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February 06, 2021, 01:14:24 AM
#37
Have you ever used illegal black market to make a bet ? Gamble ? When the normal opportunities were not available ? But what do we think about Britain? In the Britain the black market gambling have more than just doubled , which is a matter of concern for everyone and not just the government.

-Despite having Gambling as a controlled legal sport the black market continues to flourish. WHY ?
What are your opinions?

https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/11001/new-bgc-research-shows-number-of-customers-using-black-market-sites-has-more-than-doubled

Now why should it be a matter of concern?
- With the new Variant already in the UK these illegal platforms might be a hub for the fast spread of COVID plaguing the whole world
-there is no minor protection policies
-more illegal things are drug dealing and money laundering might be connected with such cases.

I do think the government needs to actually look forth for their licensing policies they time and again force the small gambling companies to shut off their business but at the same time doing it illegally doesn't make it any less of a crime.

What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?
It is easy to see why there is a black market for gambling, casinos are heavily taxed and while they can still earn great profits out of it many people prefer to open illegal casinos and get more profits that way, but then why customers use illegal casinos? One answer is that they do not know they are using an illegal casino, but another option is that since the casino is not paying taxes they could offer better odds to their customers and they prefer to use such casino despite its illegal nature.
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February 06, 2021, 12:44:36 AM
#36
I have never tried doing any illegal form of gambling such as black market gambling which involves lots of prohibited things like illegal drugs. I think one of the reasons why there are underground gambling is because of the inexistence of legal gambling in their country. The government should do something to stop underground gambling because it could affect even innocent people when they spread the COVID virus but they should also do something about the legalization of gambling in their country because if not, illegal activities like this would still continue because gamblers will always find ways to gamble.
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February 05, 2021, 09:49:15 PM
#35
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no.gambling isnt the cause for covid to appear in the uk but covid spreads naturally .
 theres already covid cases on all countries including in the uk  .
uk was in the countries where new covid variation has spotted and illegal gambling may fasten the spread of this new deadly virus but if the govermments can react now and starts to hunt illegal gambling they can save more lives . for legal gambling , they are organized and can operate contiously because the government can easily regulate them
I hope the UK can reduce the new case. I think for legal gambling, they can cooperate with the owner to control the spreading. I hope the government can make strict every place that usually has a crowd to save more lives. I don't follow what happens to the UK, but I hope everything can under control by the government.

Where gambling is legal there are other side of it and that's illegal black market gambling because this is open and unrestricted, ultra gamblers and risk takers wants a place where there are no presence of authorities or they are not bound by any laws, sometimes this place is where drug dealers and illegal transaction occur, because they are protected and they pay for their protection.
The drug dealers and the other people who have an illegal business can play on illegal gambling in a hidden place because they don't have to bond to some laws except the gambling place. They can make a deal too on that place, so the illegal gambling will help them transact with the other. But if that spreads more new Covid variant cases, I think the illegal gambling must warn them because the owner doesn't want to see their place get raided by the government.
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February 05, 2021, 09:12:01 PM
#34
In my opinion, the black market gambling not only growing in England. But in some countries where gambling activities are prohibited, there is
always black market gambling. And in my country the government indeed prohibits gambling activity in any form, so some gambling addicts who
don't have the money to go to a country where playing gambling is legal, prefer to play the Black market gambling. I never wanted to be in trouble
with the police so avoid playing the black market gambling, I prefer to play online gambling using a VPN.
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February 05, 2021, 08:35:30 PM
#33
I haven't tried to gamble in a black market and can not tell what is inside of it but as what I have heard from others it is illegal, I don't know why the black market keeps on growing even though it is illegal, the government should do something to avoid it especially with this current situation wherein the virus is still not over. For sure the black market does not have such hard restrictions in terms of health, that is why the possibility of spreading the virus will also increase, that should be given action by the government.
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February 05, 2021, 07:50:40 PM
#32
I have gambled in the black market countless of times. Black market gambling in this part of the world is strongly prevalent, although I would say that Britain's black gambling market is definitely different from ours.

I cannot tell for sure the real situation in Britain, but what I can probably say is that the gambling black market in Britain might not be characterized with poverty. From where I am speaking, depressed areas are places where illegal gambling thrives. Many of these illegal gambling games are often preying on the poor who are actually much heavier gamblers than the rich in terms of income and gambling expenses ratio.
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February 05, 2021, 06:30:51 PM
#31
Illegal gambling has always existed and I am not at all surprised by the growth of the black gambling market in Britain during the pandemic because people are tired of isolation, forced social distance and longing for real communication. I am sure that once all restrictions are lifted the black market will go down.

That might be a case but since we are still in the pandemic and we will be dealing with this for a long period of time, there might be those gamblers that would be used to this activity. A lot of gamblers are longing for this as you've said and I think the longer this pandemic happens, the longer they will gamble in this market, the more they will be used to it.
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February 05, 2021, 06:16:36 PM
#30
Illegal gambling has always existed and I am not at all surprised by the growth of the black gambling market in Britain during the pandemic because people are tired of isolation, forced social distance and longing for real communication. I am sure that once all restrictions are lifted the black market will go down.

There could be a negative effect to underground gambling activities as well as back market in Britain. But the use of cryptocurrency will still exist in most gambling players, because they get used to it due to convenience and fast transactions. Unlike the traditional fiat used at local gambling site casino, it's transparent to strangers whom able to see you.
If there's a possibility that black market will go down, I think they won't stop and still find more ways to run their operations.
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February 05, 2021, 06:04:29 PM
#29
When the gamblers have got legitimate and provably fair platforms why they're looking for such places. With all forms of business there'll be alternate opportunities. I find this black market based gambling as one of the opportunity for the gamblers. With all efforts from government it can be restricted, can't be abolished completely.

Everything is business, someone could've benefitted through this manner. This could've been shared with the one close to him. He starts the service and when there is profit automatically more people will come forward to provide these services taking risks. This also a big reason for the strengthening of these kind of gambling.
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