The gambling black market thrives in Britain - page 5.

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Quote from: dothebeats on February 05, 2021, 04:48:32 PM

Most illegal bookmakers and gambling providers that I've met still have the sense of decency to not allow minors to play on their platform. One reason I see why that's the case is because minors tend to get so cocky about their wins and brag about it, resulting into them possibly telling that there is an illegal gambling platform that exists which could lead to the operators getting busted. We do have our fair share of illegal gambling operators on my side of the globe and that's their reasoning why minors aren't allowed to gamble.

For Britain's problem re: gambling black market, I think this is because of the continuous lockdowns and people are trying to get a hold of their gambling fix on places that would allow them to play. There exists online casinos, yes, but there are still some people more comfortable in playing in physical casinos rather than play online, and that's understandable. The situation of COVID-19 in Britain hasn't gone for the better in recent times, and people are really tired of the lockdowns and establishments being closed, hence the need for alternative--yet illegal--places to go ignoring the health and safety protocols imposed by the government.

Physical casinos? The link of the OP isn't talking about that, it deals with blacket market ONLINE casinos ...
you don't need to write such long posts if it's off-topic bro LOL Cheesy

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Most illegal bookmakers and gambling providers that I've met still have the sense of decency to not allow minors to play on their platform. One reason I see why that's the case is because minors tend to get so cocky about their wins and brag about it, resulting into them possibly telling that there is an illegal gambling platform that exists which could lead to the operators getting busted. We do have our fair share of illegal gambling operators on my side of the globe and that's their reasoning why minors aren't allowed to gamble.

For Britain's problem re: gambling black market, I think this is because of the continuous lockdowns and people are trying to get a hold of their gambling fix on places that would allow them to play. There exists online casinos, yes, but there are still some people more comfortable in playing in physical casinos rather than play online, and that's understandable. The situation of COVID-19 in Britain hasn't gone for the better in recent times, and people are really tired of the lockdowns and establishments being closed, hence the need for alternative--yet illegal--places to go ignoring the health and safety protocols imposed by the government.

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Quote from: madnessteat on February 05, 2021, 11:37:59 AM

Illegal gambling has always existed and I am not at all surprised by the growth of the black gambling market in Britain during the pandemic because people are tired of isolation, forced social distance and longing for real communication. I am sure that once all restrictions are lifted the black market will go down.

if they will only wait and stick on the uncomfortable routine for a while , the recovery of covid 19 can speed up and they can soon go back playing in phyical casinos but the problem is they cant wait . they still try to gamble illegaly making the covid 19 spread more and longer to cure .

if they will continue like this , they are only going to suffer at the end but we that are fine with online gambling we dont have any complaints anymore .

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Wow, never really heard or known that such a thing is becoming more rampant in the UK, my question is, what is the government there doing about it? How has it gone to major scales if it's being taken care of by their Government? And what will their plans be in the future knowing that syndications like this will continue to grow if no new tactics or approach is given?

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Quote from: fiulpro on February 04, 2021, 01:54:49 PM

Have you ever used illegal black market to make a bet ? Gamble ? When the normal opportunities were not available ? But what do we think about Britain? In the Britain the black market gambling have more than just doubled , which is a matter of concern for everyone and not just the government.

I am not too keen on getting into trouble but i usually do not check all the gambling sites whether they are legal or not. If the illegal gambling black market is said about physical ones then i never tried my luck there, but if there are online sites, i usually do not check whether they are running legally or not and any government can term them illegal gambling houses if they are not registered with them. All i look is whether the site can be trusted and if anyone trust these gambling houses irrespective of the endorsement from the government i do not see a problem Grin

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Illegal gambling has always existed and I am not at all surprised by the growth of the black gambling market in Britain during the pandemic because people are tired of isolation, forced social distance and longing for real communication. I am sure that once all restrictions are lifted the black market will go down.

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A black market is hard to take down in reality because of its big backers and even though the government tries to seize it, It won't be eliminated. It's also true that other illegal activities are connected to it. I personally haven't experienced gambling in a black market and I don't have a plan to be playing at it. Gambling is accessible in our country and adding to that is there are online casinos out there, so why would I risk my life playing on it just to avoid some fees.

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Quote from: dunfida on February 04, 2021, 02:59:42 PM

Quote from: fiulpro on February 04, 2021, 01:54:49 PM

What are your thoughts ?

This will exist no matter what and for those who had been restricted or prohibited are mostly the ones who had been ending up on this path.

Quote from: fiulpro on February 04, 2021, 01:54:49 PM

Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

None and wont ever tend to do so if you do like to save up your ass into a trouble then its better to stick with legal ones.Even though it isnt really that perfect
or the game you've been looking for isnt there then you can always have the chance to look for another.

Haha yeah ofc I do not think that I will ever try that for sure. There are far too many games around and literally a lot of platforms so you can easily find whatever you are looking for.

Quote from: Wexnident on February 04, 2021, 07:23:30 PM

Even if I wanted to, I couldn't since I had no bloody idea how to enter it. And well, there would always be people who would want to be in a market that agrees with all of their conditions, no matter the cost. Legal casinos still have their rules and all, after all, not to mention that some of them force others to compromise (banned issues, often solved by money). Sides, black market gambling can possibly involve multiple dealings, plus meetings with others in the related trade. Just like how normal casinos have those kinds of social interactions, I guess the black market also has its own.

If given the chance, I'd really like to explore the black market, but it'd only be limited to that, exploration. I have no plans to join them with whatever deals they are doing.

I would say it depends where you live , if you have no idea just leave it aside 🤣 , be like a sane person and just order piranhas from the dark web 🕸️ , that's the most action that you should get into. In the black market money extortion is a big thing therefore until and unless you think you can handle it then you should not touch this section.

Or roam around in the most fishy neighbor or even be the bookie for the bets v.v this way you don't have a license but ur gambling ( ask your friends and family around lol)

I think that would work much.

..... where I am from there the gambling is banned but you can easily find bookies and places to gamble at every corner.

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Not only in Britain, but there are also a lot of countries with a share of the gambling black market, and it continues to thrive because the rules are not bound by government rules or restriction, gambling operators and gamblers like this because they can do anything they want, illegal drugs and gambling black market are connected to each other and they both thrive in these environments.
I have not played on this kind of gambling site and I don't think I can play, because of the existence of drugs.

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Quote from: fiulpro on February 04, 2021, 01:54:49 PM

Have you ever used illegal black market to make a bet ? Gamble ?

Since I’ve always had sports bookmakers on virtually every corner quite legally (and so it is today), I’ve never had the need to look for an illegal way to make sports bets - and honestly I haven’t even heard anyone talk about it.

I guess people are going in the direction of the black market because the odds are higher and there are no taxes - which in the case of a positive outcome for the player brings higher earnings. Perhaps one of the reasons is that the black market also allows some sports that cannot be found in the legal offer.

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I agree with just_Alice on this one. Of course, when you're going into some storage room in a nightclub to play poker or to place bets, you can be pretty sure and aware that it's illegal. But when you're betting online and trying out a new website, you might accidentally play illegally because of not knowing the specifics of your country's regulations or of the license that a casino has. All in all, I think the governments should make reasonable regulations of gambling, so that casinos are encouraged to operate legally and people feel encouraged to use these casinos.

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Sounds risky at first, but now that I think of it, how do you actually distinguish between legalized and illegal gambling websites? I mean, do any of you actually try and search if a certain website legal in your country or not? It's not like you enter a website and it tells you that it's a black market website, right? Grin

For instance, in my country gambling itself has only been legalized a few months ago (due to endemic-induced economic crisis, I guess) and there are very few websites offered by the government, and they all suck. Does this mean that if I use any other websites (that might be legal in other countries, but not in mine) - I gamble in the black market?

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Quote from: fiulpro on February 04, 2021, 01:54:49 PM

What are your thoughts ?

not surprising especially iht everyone stuck up at home for months because of covid. we are in an era where technology is a part of our daily life and the younger generation who are born in it are starting to grow up and other people adapting to it. information is free and can reach almost anyone may it be legal or illegal. I wouldn't be surprised if the count of people using an online black market double in the next two years.

Quote from: fiulpro on February 04, 2021, 01:54:49 PM

Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

online? no. physically? does unlicensed gambling casino near your area count as black market gambling? if it does count then yes but that was years ago and I only played out of curiosity.

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We sort of do it all the time in Asia I guess. But it is not like in movies where you go place bets with dirty guys smoking and all that, it is usually just sms to a number, they take your bet and you just pay with mobile money:)

Small time people do it part time all the time. Offer better odds or no fees (gambling here takes 15% entertainment tax).

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I am surprised Britain as a developed country has problems with the black market.Where I live now the government has restricted sport betting and local casinos together with a repression reform by blocking the most well known online casinos by ordering all ISP-s to blacklist those sites.However this has translated in an increased black market,almost in every coffee or bar which used to have sport betting people are playing with their phones.The owner of the shop has an account in bet365 for example which he access through proxies and people give money to him for their bets for example they say 5 usd for Juventus to win and give him 5 usd while he sends them a print screen of their bet.

What I want to say with the thorough example above is you cannot stop gambling or the black market no matter what you do.

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I guess it's not only Britain, but in the rest of the world black market is really thriving whether we have the pandemic or not. It just magnify today because of the current situations as most land base casinos or any other form of legal gambling is close. And as the saying goes, gamblers will be gamblers so they are going to create ways to continue for vices and black market is the most logical choice for them/us.

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The link you posted seems to be talking about gambling that happens online rather than physically, or no?
I wonder what connection that has with the pandemic, or are they gathering physical to bet online?
According to the website you posted:

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The number of British gamblers using black market websites has more than doubled, according to new research carried out by the Betting and Gaming Council (BGC).

I wonder exactly what the government is worried about... Is it worried about:
1. Citizens using Unregulated Betting sites
2. Citizens getting exposed to *very risky/unsafe bettings* or gambling
3. Or is worried about other betting sites taking its market share.?
I guess the government maybe worried about the three. I think it's important the government worries more about the citizens getting exposed to unsafe betting industry.

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Been betting underground for many years now, horse racing, lottery, local basketball games, cock fighting, you name it, been there done that. Actually just like week, some of my friends are caught red handed in a cock fight, luckily I didn't go with them. Only one was able to run, the rest are caught.

My thoughts is that the government can't prevent it, will be cat and mouse game. And gamblers will continue to do illegal stuff, just saying.

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Quote from: fiulpro on February 04, 2021, 01:54:49 PM

What are your thoughts ?
Have you ever tried Gambling in the black market ?

I never tried gambling in the black market. Illegal stuff is just not for me, I can't relax and always think the police is going to come any second. One time I used one of the illegal Cabs in London and instantly got caught by the cops. In my opinion the rise of the black market in the gambling industry might also be due to the corona pandemic, unfortunately most casinos were closed during the lockdown. Once life is going back to normal I would expect most people to switch from the black market casinos to the regular ones again.

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Quote from: maydna on February 04, 2021, 11:26:57 PM

I don't think that the new variant of Covid in the UK is just because of illegal gambling or the black market, but we should search from the other places to find where the spread. The government can use a strict rule to any company with a crowd, whether it is employee or customer, because that is one thing from many factors the spread of the virus will attack them.

no.gambling isnt the cause for covid to appear in the uk but covid spreads naturally .
theres already covid cases on all countries including in the uk .
uk was in the countries where new covid variation has spotted and illegal gambling may fasten the spread of this new deadly virus but if the govermments can react now and starts to hunt illegal gambling they can save more lives . for legal gambling , they are organized and can operate contiously because the government can easily regulate them

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