Topic: The Government Must be Winning! (Read 2006 times)
I don't think that the government can stop cryptocurrency. It's the entire purpose of it. Any ideas of how it could actually stop cryptocurrency from being used?
I think the most probable outcome it for cryptos to start getting taxed, so the Gov can also have a stake
We need not only rules to become enemies for Bitcoiners. bad developers, thieves, hackers. If we can not control all the bad things in the room of Bitcoin and Altcoin, do not think for a moment all of this will retreat so unregulated and unnoticed. If we do not organize our actions against our cruel and selfish effort in making extra money, then we will end up with a greater advantage over us.
it is not a war against bitcoin but it is a war against the people who hold that bitcoin but use it in undesirable purpose like drug trafficking, money laundering, ransoms, tax evasion from crypto trading. Statelessness is what the criminals and villains dream because they want to dominate by their evil powers and the weak is their slaves, and need no protection. Government must regulate the usage of bitcoin to citizens as it is for our own good. Tax is what we pay the government to protect the people in accordance with the law. Fraudulent investors, businessmen and traders hate government because they think they take away their money of course indeed because that money is not from a legal transactions. Everybody must win between, the government and the bitcoin community to sustain this crypto currency world.If you use that crypto for fiat currency exchange - the government owned currency then government should take their shares too.
Nope I don't think the government is winning anything. As long as Bitcoin remains Decentralized maybe with just little centralization, no government can censor it.
Bitcoin reacting to News is pretty normal even Fiat react to news in thesame way which is why people trade forex.
You mustn't always lose when Bitcoin dips If you know what you doing. Experienced traders made lots of money from that fall... so you still profit from price fluctuating in both ways.
Pump and dump is part of game and the real strategic player is that one who play successfully in crucial time and stay calm dump is also good for the investors they can make money from it also as they need to think about it and many of investor buy a lot in dump because they knew well that this will give them huge profit in the time of pump. Bitcoin reacting to News is pretty normal even Fiat react to news in thesame way which is why people trade forex.
You mustn't always lose when Bitcoin dips If you know what you doing. Experienced traders made lots of money from that fall... so you still profit from price fluctuating in both ways.
i think "WE" [enthusiast of bitcoin and altcoin] are not in the losing side and we are not enemy of the government and banks and vice versa. The real enemy here are those Scammers, Thieves, Online Criminal that use bitcoin and other altcoin to there unlawful businesses. If we dont take an action and let this happen that can defile the name of Cryptocurrency in the world, that will be the start that government will take action and regulate it. We must first discipline our self and dont be too greedy to attain our financial freedom and wealth. If we abuse its function we will all end up with nothing.
Nope I don't think the government is winning anything. As long as Bitcoin remains Decentralized maybe with just little centralization, no government can censor it.
Bitcoin reacting to News is pretty normal even Fiat react to news in thesame way which is why people trade forex.
You mustn't always lose when Bitcoin dips If you know what you doing. Experienced traders made lots of money from that fall... so you still profit from price fluctuating in both ways.
Bitcoin reacting to News is pretty normal even Fiat react to news in thesame way which is why people trade forex.
You mustn't always lose when Bitcoin dips If you know what you doing. Experienced traders made lots of money from that fall... so you still profit from price fluctuating in both ways.
I think the government is overwhelmed with bitcoin, especially if the government wants to impose a tax on bitcoin users, it will be very difficult, because bitcoin users are very difficult to track and are anonymous, I think it will take a very long time if the government wants to fight and apply taxes against bitcoin
Which government from which country are you specifically point towards? I'm quite sure ultimately there will be government that can accept and advocate the concept of BTC and when the rest have seen what BTC could do, they might change their mind afterwards as well. Even China is not banning ICO outright (who doesn't love money?), ICO will still be back after they have sort out all the regulations and rule, to make ICO better eventually!
My point of thinking as well because from the look of things the "winning" that the government seems to have is being handed over to them by the players in the industry that tend to create panics and that winning will even be short lived the moment the market is back in place then they realise that their attack can only shake us but not drown us.
I'm not taking this issue lightly or it just that I can't see any possibilities either.. Government and bitcoin are now working to regulate and take bitcoin to the next level for legalization.. It was so absurd to think they will totally banned bitcoin as a whole,, for it will only shows they're greed of money from bankers.. It will only put them on bad lights and it will be chaos in the long run..
government is only taking advantages of our weaknesses. we the bitcoins have never hide any information related to Bitcoin but still, people who are less familiar with the Bitcoin is being affected by the rumors spread by governments. they are the politicians they play with people's mind. I think it is no point on winning or losing because we have to spread the awareness to humans so that they can understand why exactly Bitcoin has these weaknesses.
What weakness are you blubbering about? I never heard of Bitcoin having weakness, since the government are desperate in making this currency be a centralized one. But the thing is they can't crack the code out of it. I agree in the part that the government are using political aspects so that they could convince people not to use Bitcoin, so that they can have less problems in the future. But the truth is the community is still growing in positive rate. The people have never been the weakness of Bitcoin but it is the weakness of the people it self. Since they are not familiar and not that aware about Bitcoin. 
government is only taking advantages of our weaknesses. we the bitcoins have never hide any information related to Bitcoin but still, people who are less familiar with the Bitcoin is being affected by the rumors spread by governments. they are the politicians they play with people's mind. I think it is no point on winning or losing because we have to spread the awareness to humans so that they can understand why exactly Bitcoin has these weaknesses.
The real question for cryptocurrencies is whether global ban on them would prevent their mass adoption or only delay it? The whole point of crypto is its ability to withstand any direct attacks, but it would be up to people to risk their freedom and wealth (if crypto will be illegal) to get more financial freedom. Take weed for example - it was illegal in all states, yet very high percentage of population tried it at least once, similar can happen if crypto will be banned - people will continue to use it nonetheless, if they will clearly see benefits for them. What is important is that cryptocurrencies need to continue improving, and offer better privacy and scalability, so they can compete better with legacy financial system.
Which government from which country are you specifically point towards? I'm quite sure ultimately there will be government that can accept and advocate the concept of BTC and when the rest have seen what BTC could do, they might change their mind afterwards as well. Even China is not banning ICO outright (who doesn't love money?), ICO will still be back after they have sort out all the regulations and rule, to make ICO better eventually!
My point of thinking as well because from the look of things the "winning" that the government seems to have is being handed over to them by the players in the industry that tend to create panics and that winning will even be short lived the moment the market is back in place then they realise that their attack can only shake us but not drown us. 
Which government from which country are you specifically point towards? I'm quite sure ultimately there will be government that can accept and advocate the concept of BTC and when the rest have seen what BTC could do, they might change their mind afterwards as well. Even China is not banning ICO outright (who doesn't love money?), ICO will still be back after they have sort out all the regulations and rule, to make ICO better eventually!
Cryptocurrency is representing a dream...a dream when we can get away from the control, power and influence of the government most especially with finance and economy. This includes minimizing the control of central banking on matter on matters of policies and economic direction.
However, correct me if I am wrong, the battle has not yet started and it looks we the many Bitcoin or crypto enthusiasts are on the losing side. We have just witnessed how a single pronouncement or a news can drastically affect the value of the Bitcoin market.
Now, what would happen if many of the big governments would one day declare Bitcoin to be illegal? Will it mean that realistically it is the government who is winning in this battle? Or is there really a battle in the first place?
Tell me your convictions and dreams regarding Bitcoin.
However, correct me if I am wrong, the battle has not yet started and it looks we the many Bitcoin or crypto enthusiasts are on the losing side. We have just witnessed how a single pronouncement or a news can drastically affect the value of the Bitcoin market.
Now, what would happen if many of the big governments would one day declare Bitcoin to be illegal? Will it mean that realistically it is the government who is winning in this battle? Or is there really a battle in the first place?
Tell me your convictions and dreams regarding Bitcoin.
Now, what would happen if many of the big governments would one day declare Bitcoin to be illegal? Will it mean that realistically it is the government who is winning in this battle? Or is there really a battle in the first place?
- This won't be happen for sure, because if you know what happened before in Russia and China these both country they banned bitcoin, right? but in a short period of time they revoked it. Instead, they'll ride on the trend also they adopt the system of bitcoin up to now. And for sure in the near future there are more nations are preparing themselves to make bitcoin legalize to their own country as what Japan did a couple of months ago.
Bitcoin at worst will get heavily regulated by most of the major governments, and that's really it. If I look at how things were back in 2013/2014/2015, everything was still more or less a joke. I could just buy and sell Bitcoin at any exchange or service without a single form of verification. I could cash out my profits without any problems in terms of paying tax - my local government didn't even know what Bitcoin was. Currently this all has changed as everything has become a whole lot more serious. I believe that in the forthcoming years things will get even more serious as crypto in general is a growing industry. Governments just need time to catch up, but more regulations are to be expected.
It is possible only when the governments banned bitcoin in their respective countries. Otherwise it is not possible for them to control all about the bitcoin, because it is not a paper currency. It is a digital currency and it has no physical existence, so it will be very difficult for them to take control over the buying, selling and using bitcoin. I think the officials must accept the importance of bitcoin.
Cryptocurrency is representing a dream...a dream when we can get away from the control, power and influence of the government most especially with finance and economy. This includes minimizing the control of central banking on matter on matters of policies and economic direction.
However, correct me if I am wrong, the battle has not yet started and it looks we the many Bitcoin or crypto enthusiasts are on the losing side. We have just witnessed how a single pronouncement or a news can drastically affect the value of the Bitcoin market.
Now, what would happen if many of the big governments would one day declare Bitcoin to be illegal? Will it mean that realistically it is the government who is winning in this battle? Or is there really a battle in the first place?
Tell me your convictions and dreams regarding Bitcoin.
However, correct me if I am wrong, the battle has not yet started and it looks we the many Bitcoin or crypto enthusiasts are on the losing side. We have just witnessed how a single pronouncement or a news can drastically affect the value of the Bitcoin market.
Now, what would happen if many of the big governments would one day declare Bitcoin to be illegal? Will it mean that realistically it is the government who is winning in this battle? Or is there really a battle in the first place?
Tell me your convictions and dreams regarding Bitcoin.
Now, what would happen if many of the big governments would one day declare Bitcoin to be illegal? Will it mean that realistically it is the government who is winning in this battle? Or is there really a battle in the first place?
- This won't be happen for sure, because if you know what happened before in Russia and China these both country they banned bitcoin, right? but in a short period of time they revoked it. Instead, they'll ride on the trend also they adopt the system of bitcoin up to now. And for sure in the near future there are more nations are preparing themselves to make bitcoin legalize to their own country as what Japan did a couple of months ago.
Yes! I get your point and this is actually what scares me. The government can be evil especially when it comes to money. We can not stop the government if it will make bitcoin illegal. The government should be serving the people, but we all know that they serve themselves more. Not all, but a lot. Government officials will not make themselves left behind from earning something. If the government will know how big Bitcoin is now, it might ban Bitcoin already.
Bitcoin will never be illegal. A lot of people from government from any country already use bitcoins
Yes bitcoins is new technology even many countries has adopted technology of blockchain and there are some countries made bitcoins to be legalitation for currency, the government of countries that can adopt new technology will survive in the future, when crisis happen, inflation and it can be anticipated with bitcoins, even the government won't it, the people want it. Jump to: