The Habanero - 650GH/s - OOS - page 26.

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Quote from: nexus99 on June 11, 2014, 11:26:59 AM

Quote from: bit_NINj4 on June 11, 2014, 09:34:15 AM

Quote from: nexus99 on June 11, 2014, 09:19:02 AM

Quote from: s1gs3gv on June 11, 2014, 09:15:59 AM

How much should I expect to spend on the power supply(s) and cooling solutions for one of these boards ?

I'd budget 200 bucks for a base level PSU and water cooler. Sky is the limit from there.

I'd say this is a conservative estimate.
You're probably going to want at least an 80+ Gold PSU ~800w which will give you ~85% efficiency and will cost you ~$90-130.
Then, you're probably going to want a decent water cooling system with double radiator and two 120 fans and will cost you ~$110-130.

While you may get away with the bare minimums as far as cooling and power are concerned, I strongly advise that you acquire my minimum recommendations. They may cost you about 25% more than just the bare minimums, but they will save you money and headaches in the future. Do you really want to be stuck with just enough power output and then there's a firmware update that can increase hashing power by 15%, but you don't have the juice to squeeze it out of the board?
Not only this, but high heat on the dies 24/7 will only decrease their lifespan and max load on the PSU will only cause it to burn out faster and may cause damage to the boards, not to mention cost you more in electricity.

You can never have too much power and cooling available.

I agree bit_ninj4.

My numbers came from using a Gigampz kit for power (80) and a Nepton 280L. It might be best to use a PC PSU which has all the assorted connectors though. Some coolers require a sata power connector. And if you want to run more fans molex can come in handy. So maybe closer to 300 is better.

So 1150$ for 640GH/s doesn't look so good to ROI this investment. (almost 2$ gh/s) I don't understand why it would good to buy those in terms or ROI.

1$ for 1 gh/s and this would be awesome !

Otherwise great project !

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Quote from: nexus99 on June 11, 2014, 11:26:59 AM

Quote from: bit_NINj4 on June 11, 2014, 09:34:15 AM

Quote from: nexus99 on June 11, 2014, 09:19:02 AM

Quote from: s1gs3gv on June 11, 2014, 09:15:59 AM

How much should I expect to spend on the power supply(s) and cooling solutions for one of these boards ?

I'd budget 200 bucks for a base level PSU and water cooler. Sky is the limit from there.

I'd say this is a conservative estimate.
You're probably going to want at least an 80+ Gold PSU ~800w which will give you ~85% efficiency and will cost you ~$90-130.
Then, you're probably going to want a decent water cooling system with double radiator and two 120 fans and will cost you ~$110-130.

While you may get away with the bare minimums as far as cooling and power are concerned, I strongly advise that you acquire my minimum recommendations. They may cost you about 25% more than just the bare minimums, but they will save you money and headaches in the future. Do you really want to be stuck with just enough power output and then there's a firmware update that can increase hashing power by 15%, but you don't have the juice to squeeze it out of the board?
Not only this, but high heat on the dies 24/7 will only decrease their lifespan and max load on the PSU will only cause it to burn out faster and may cause damage to the boards, not to mention cost you more in electricity.

You can never have too much power and cooling available.

I agree bit_ninj4.

My numbers came from using a Gigampz kit for power (80) and a Nepton 280L. It might be best to use a PC PSU which has all the assorted connectors though. Some coolers require a sata power connector. And if you want to run more fans molex can come in handy. So maybe closer to 300 is better.

Don't forget to budget air-moving fan(s) if you plan to push them, they are seriously spicy peppers! Cheesy

I've got a 20" high velocity fan blowing on mine to keep them tamed.

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Quote from: bit_NINj4 on June 11, 2014, 09:34:15 AM

Quote from: nexus99 on June 11, 2014, 09:19:02 AM

Quote from: s1gs3gv on June 11, 2014, 09:15:59 AM

How much should I expect to spend on the power supply(s) and cooling solutions for one of these boards ?

I'd budget 200 bucks for a base level PSU and water cooler. Sky is the limit from there.

I'd say this is a conservative estimate.
You're probably going to want at least an 80+ Gold PSU ~800w which will give you ~85% efficiency and will cost you ~$90-130.
Then, you're probably going to want a decent water cooling system with double radiator and two 120 fans and will cost you ~$110-130.

While you may get away with the bare minimums as far as cooling and power are concerned, I strongly advise that you acquire my minimum recommendations. They may cost you about 25% more than just the bare minimums, but they will save you money and headaches in the future. Do you really want to be stuck with just enough power output and then there's a firmware update that can increase hashing power by 15%, but you don't have the juice to squeeze it out of the board?
Not only this, but high heat on the dies 24/7 will only decrease their lifespan and max load on the PSU will only cause it to burn out faster and may cause damage to the boards, not to mention cost you more in electricity.

You can never have too much power and cooling available.

I agree bit_ninj4.

My numbers came from using a Gigampz kit for power (80) and a Nepton 280L. It might be best to use a PC PSU which has all the assorted connectors though. Some coolers require a sata power connector. And if you want to run more fans molex can come in handy. So maybe closer to 300 is better.

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Quote from: GenTarkin on June 11, 2014, 09:52:41 AM

Is there a version of cgminer / bfgminer that can be compiled to work on an rpi to be Hab controllers?
Or does stock cfgminer compiled w/ HF support work?

Thanks

GenTarkin,

ZBC3 mentioned the following ->

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sudo systemctl stop miner
cd ~
wget http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/cgminer-4.3.4.tar.bz2
tar -xvf cgminer-4.3.4.tar.bz2
cd cgminer-4.3.4
sudo ./configure --enable-Hashfast
sudo make
mv /opt/minepeon/bin/cgminer /opt/minepeon/bin/cgminerOld
mv cgminer /opt/minepeon/bin/cgminer
sudo systemctl start miner

Optional to delete the CGMiner directory after moving the binary out & delete the zip file you downloaded:
Code: [Select]
cd ~
sudo rm -rf cgminer-4.3.4
sudo rm -rf cgminer-4.3.4.tar.bz2

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Quote from: gateway on June 10, 2014, 12:32:11 PM

Please send me a PM with the actual number of boards you want to order. I want to take a tally of how many people on the forum still want boards.

Pm Sent.

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Is there a version of cgminer / bfgminer that can be compiled to work on an rpi to be Hab controllers?
Or does stock cfgminer compiled w/ HF support work?

Thanks

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Quote from: nexus99 on June 11, 2014, 09:19:02 AM

Quote from: s1gs3gv on June 11, 2014, 09:15:59 AM

How much should I expect to spend on the power supply(s) and cooling solutions for one of these boards ?

I'd budget 200 bucks for a base level PSU and water cooler. Sky is the limit from there.

I'd say this is a conservative estimate.
You're probably going to want at least an 80+ Gold PSU ~800w which will give you ~85% efficiency and will cost you ~$90-130.
Then, you're probably going to want a decent water cooling system with double radiator and two 120 fans and will cost you ~$110-130.

While you may get away with the bare minimums as far as cooling and power are concerned, I strongly advise that you acquire my minimum recommendations. They may cost you about 25% more than just the bare minimums, but they will save you money and headaches in the future. Do you really want to be stuck with just enough power output and then there's a firmware update that can increase hashing power by 15%, but you don't have the juice to squeeze it out of the board?
Not only this, but high heat on the dies 24/7 will only decrease their lifespan and max load on the PSU will only cause it to burn out faster and may cause damage to the boards, not to mention cost you more in electricity.

You can never have too much power and cooling available.

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Quote from: s1gs3gv on June 11, 2014, 09:15:59 AM

How much should I expect to spend on the power supply(s) and cooling solutions for one of these boards ?

I'd budget 200 bucks for a base level PSU and water cooler. Sky is the limit from there.

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ex uno plures

How much should I expect to spend on the power supply(s) and cooling solutions for one of these boards ?

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Gateway,

Do you have enough indications of interest to go forward with batch 3 production?

Will there be another price drop if you proceed with batch 3?

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Quote from: xjack on June 10, 2014, 05:04:32 PM

Update to my earlier trouble with finding the "sweet spot". Went back and re-read gateway/MrTeal published methods of overclock/overvolt and wound up both boards at .995v/950MHz.

I did quite a bit more tweaking and now with just 2 monster fans on the radiator blowing over the board I am getting ~650 GH/S at 875mhz.
Temps are 80/80/85/78

At 900mhz the board starts flaking out without a voltage tweak.

I have no Linux... so I think I'll let things sit as they are for a while.

Thanks to all who gave me pushes in the right direction.

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Quote from: gateway on June 10, 2014, 12:32:11 PM

Please send me a PM with the actual number of boards you want to order. I want to take a tally of how many people on the forum still want boards.

PM Sent!

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64 bit, 4.3.4

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Quote from: Swimmer63 on June 10, 2014, 08:30:07 PM

Quote from: gateway on June 10, 2014, 04:54:02 PM

Quote from: QuiveringGibbage on June 10, 2014, 04:38:07 PM

Have received my 2 Habanero boards.

Tried to fit the Corsair H100i and it seems the 115x stand offs are too high. The CPU block has about 5mm of space to move up and down. The LGA2011 stand off did the trick but had to source 4 separate 4mm nuts to screw it down. Still to be tested.

While I was sourcing the 4mm nuts, I also started setting up the XSPC Water Cooling Kit for the 2nd board.

More pics can be found here: http://imgur.com/a/SMBJP

While I have both boards ready with water coolers installed and powered up, I keep getting the following errors on cgminer:

Code:

[2014-06-10 23:21:10] Hashfast detect (2:17) failed to initialise (incorrect device?)
[2014-06-10 23:21:15] USB init, open device failed, err -3, you don't have privilege to access - HFA device 2:17-i1

ha and it just occurred to me that I didn't run cgminer with sudo .. this may be the cause of my errors.. will attempt to run again later tonight after work. Silly me.

Back to work i guess,
QG

Very nice, im curious to see what you can get out of the boards, just be gentle with them since the dies are fragile.

One thing you mentioned is the cgm issue, its important to on unix boxes to follow the directions on the git depo search for the key word LINUX: on this page

or follow these commands

Code:

sudo usermod -G plugdev -a `whoami`

If your distro doesnt have plugdev do this

Code:

sudo groupadd plugdev

lastly its important to copy the cgminer udev rules over, once done its probably a good idea to reboot.

Code:

sudo cp 01-cgminer.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/

after doing this you shouldn't have to run cgminer with sudo

I am getting the same thing when trying to run more than one miner on Windows 7. Any answer for that? It zombies out when I try 2,3 or 4 Hashfast miners. The only device 0 runs. I got them all running when I restarted the PC, but then they three of the four zombied out after 2 minutes.

That's strange, 64 or 32 bit, and what cgminer version? I have 6 habaneros (4.3.3, 64 bit) running on one instance and it doesn't seem to be having any issue.

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Quote from: gateway on June 10, 2014, 04:54:02 PM

Quote from: QuiveringGibbage on June 10, 2014, 04:38:07 PM

Have received my 2 Habanero boards.

Tried to fit the Corsair H100i and it seems the 115x stand offs are too high. The CPU block has about 5mm of space to move up and down. The LGA2011 stand off did the trick but had to source 4 separate 4mm nuts to screw it down. Still to be tested.

While I was sourcing the 4mm nuts, I also started setting up the XSPC Water Cooling Kit for the 2nd board.

More pics can be found here: http://imgur.com/a/SMBJP

While I have both boards ready with water coolers installed and powered up, I keep getting the following errors on cgminer:

Code:

[2014-06-10 23:21:10] Hashfast detect (2:17) failed to initialise (incorrect device?)
[2014-06-10 23:21:15] USB init, open device failed, err -3, you don't have privilege to access - HFA device 2:17-i1

ha and it just occurred to me that I didn't run cgminer with sudo .. this may be the cause of my errors.. will attempt to run again later tonight after work. Silly me.

Back to work i guess,
QG

Very nice, im curious to see what you can get out of the boards, just be gentle with them since the dies are fragile.

One thing you mentioned is the cgm issue, its important to on unix boxes to follow the directions on the git depo search for the key word LINUX: on this page

or follow these commands

Code:

sudo usermod -G plugdev -a `whoami`

If your distro doesnt have plugdev do this

Code:

sudo groupadd plugdev

lastly its important to copy the cgminer udev rules over, once done its probably a good idea to reboot.

Code:

sudo cp 01-cgminer.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/

after doing this you shouldn't have to run cgminer with sudo

I am getting the same thing when trying to run more than one miner on Windows 7. Any answer for that? It zombies out when I try 2,3 or 4 Hashfast miners. The only device 0 runs. I got them all running when I restarted the PC, but then they three of the four zombied out after 2 minutes.

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Quote from: bit_NINj4 on June 10, 2014, 05:30:47 PM

Man those numbers are fantastic. I can't wait to get my hands on these boards.
What are you using for cooling? Ambient temp?

Nepton 280 w/ 1 stock fan and 1 upgraded 125cfm screamer fan. Tons of air blowing on boards. 75F or under ambient for 99-100C. 102-103.5C at 85F ambient.

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Quote from: xjack on June 10, 2014, 05:04:32 PM

Code:

 cgminer version 4.3.4 - Started: [2014-06-09 19:57:50]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):1.637T (1m):1.509T (5m):1.457T (15m):1.448T (avg):1.439Th/s
 A:24621448  R:56063  HW:6863  WU:20109.0/m | ST: 387  SS: 483  NB: 147  LW: 25689431  GF: 2  RF: 1
 Connected to xxx diff 512 with stratum as user xxx
 Block: 3cb3f81f...  Diff:11.8G  Started: [16:02:29]  Best share: 9.54M
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [U]SB management [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 0: HFB Dabs    : 950MHz 100C 100% 0.91V  | 817.5G / 716.8Gh/s WU:10014.0/m A:12314820 R:25856 HW:3606
 1: HFB Chip    : 950MHz 101C 100% 0.91V  | 792.2G / 722.6Gh/s WU:10095.0/m A:12306628 R:30208 HW:3257
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [2014-06-10 16:15:45] Accepted 20cc96d5 Diff 2K/1024 HFB 1 pool 0
 [2014-06-10 16:15:45] Accepted 09940513 Diff 6.84K/1024 HFB 0 pool 0
 [2014-06-10 16:15:51] Accepted 32e84c36 Diff 1.29K/1024 HFB 1 pool 0

Update to my earlier trouble with finding the "sweet spot". Went back and re-read gateway/MrTeal published methods of overclock/overvolt and wound up both boards at .995v/950MHz.

Man those numbers are fantastic. I can't wait to get my hands on these boards.
What are you using for cooling? Ambient temp?

xjack

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Code:

 cgminer version 4.3.4 - Started: [2014-06-09 19:57:50]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):1.637T (1m):1.509T (5m):1.457T (15m):1.448T (avg):1.439Th/s
 A:24621448  R:56063  HW:6863  WU:20109.0/m | ST: 387  SS: 483  NB: 147  LW: 25689431  GF: 2  RF: 1
 Connected to xxx diff 512 with stratum as user xxx
 Block: 3cb3f81f...  Diff:11.8G  Started: [16:02:29]  Best share: 9.54M
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [U]SB management [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 0: HFB Dabs    : 950MHz 100C 100% 0.91V  | 817.5G / 716.8Gh/s WU:10014.0/m A:12314820 R:25856 HW:3606
 1: HFB Chip    : 950MHz 101C 100% 0.91V  | 792.2G / 722.6Gh/s WU:10095.0/m A:12306628 R:30208 HW:3257
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [2014-06-10 16:15:45] Accepted 20cc96d5 Diff 2K/1024 HFB 1 pool 0
 [2014-06-10 16:15:45] Accepted 09940513 Diff 6.84K/1024 HFB 0 pool 0
 [2014-06-10 16:15:51] Accepted 32e84c36 Diff 1.29K/1024 HFB 1 pool 0

Update to my earlier trouble with finding the "sweet spot". Went back and re-read gateway/MrTeal published methods of overclock/overvolt and wound up both boards at .995v/950MHz.

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Reckon I'll get in on batch 3 if a batch 3 happens.

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Quote from: QuiveringGibbage on June 10, 2014, 04:38:07 PM

Have received my 2 Habanero boards.

Tried to fit the Corsair H100i and it seems the 115x stand offs are too high. The CPU block has about 5mm of space to move up and down. The LGA2011 stand off did the trick but had to source 4 separate 4mm nuts to screw it down. Still to be tested.

While I was sourcing the 4mm nuts, I also started setting up the XSPC Water Cooling Kit for the 2nd board.

More pics can be found here: http://imgur.com/a/SMBJP

While I have both boards ready with water coolers installed and powered up, I keep getting the following errors on cgminer:

Code:

[2014-06-10 23:21:10] Hashfast detect (2:17) failed to initialise (incorrect device?)
[2014-06-10 23:21:15] USB init, open device failed, err -3, you don't have privilege to access - HFA device 2:17-i1

ha and it just occurred to me that I didn't run cgminer with sudo .. this may be the cause of my errors.. will attempt to run again later tonight after work. Silly me.

Back to work i guess,
QG

Very nice, im curious to see what you can get out of the boards, just be gentle with them since the dies are fragile.

One thing you mentioned is the cgm issue, its important to on unix boxes to follow the directions on the git depo search for the key word LINUX: on this page

or follow these commands

Code:

sudo usermod -G plugdev -a `whoami`

If your distro doesnt have plugdev do this

Code:

sudo groupadd plugdev

lastly its important to copy the cgminer udev rules over, once done its probably a good idea to reboot.

Code:

sudo cp 01-cgminer.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/

after doing this you shouldn't have to run cgminer with sudo

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