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Quote from: Furious 7 on July 17, 2024, 03:52:43 PM

Quote from: erep on July 14, 2024, 03:44:14 PM

However, I agree with your statement that rich people will get richer with their business, I think life is unfair but that is the reality of life, we can also wake up with enough capital to build a business even though the profits are small. We must be consistent in running the business to achieve high profits in the future.

Regardless of whether it is fair or not, in the end, things like this must always be maintained because after all, when things like this are changed by wanting equality in terms of wealth and wealth, for example it will also disrupt the electability of life so that no matter how fair or not between the rich and the poor, it must still continue because it is a wheel that cannot be lost.

With this condition, it will actually create a new thing where the life lived becomes not monotonous and makes this a condition where there is competition, especially when the poor who are trying to catch up with the rich and the rich who maintain their power.
We are set up for something like that, because it would not be funny if the justice system was seen only because of equality in wealth, if that happened then who would work as an employee because everyone would want to be the boss. So whether it's fair or not all depends on the portion for this kind of thing.

It's a mistake to think the existing economic division is okay since it makes things more competitive. This economic wheel is broken, centuries-old, and fixed. Our wheel must be replaced, not expanded. Money given to the poor should be considered as an investment, not a gift. Everyone should have an opportunity to succeed. The system works best when everyone has a chance

Why keep a few in charge? This is insane old rubbish. It's about making a difference, not fortune. Healthcare, education, and technology deserve our money. Being an employee or boss shouldn't depend on your salary. It should matter what you contribute

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Quote from: yudi09 on July 17, 2024, 01:16:52 PM

If you make a wrong choice as intended, the statement that the higher the capital, the higher the profits, will not apply, both in crypto activities and in other types of activities.
If the sentence applies to this type of crypto activity, then the designation of Bitcoin is appropriate to interpret the sentence. The calculation of the percentage of 50% profit from $1000 is that $500 will be earned even though the Bitcoin market fluctuates, it could be more than $500.

As long as it can be managed well, I think high capital for something that already has value can bring higher profits, but on the one hand we also have to involve a level of risk that we have to bear when market and environmental conditions start to change for the worse. But for Bitcoin, of course it would be better if we put in a larger amount of capital with a fairly established time target in order to be able to generate one hundred percent profit through it.

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Quote from: erep on July 14, 2024, 03:44:14 PM

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I also believe that having higher capital would help you get a return in the long run. this is also one of the reasons why rich people who have great management skills are getting even richer. They are smart with the money and could really make things better for them and find profit anywhere.

Rich people have the advantage of being able to allocate high business capital without needing to apply for a capital loan from a bank, they can build a business according to initial planning and they can do anything to increase their business income, they have financial support to make their business a success, they even allocate campaign funds for business promotion on top billboards.

However, I agree with your statement that rich people will get richer with their business, I think life is unfair but that is the reality of life, we can also wake up with enough capital to build a business even though the profits are small. We must be consistent in running the business to achieve high profits in the future.

When it comes to bigger funds or capital, of course the rich people has definitely an edge over those poor people. But that doesn't mean that all rich people who come to invest in bitcoin have ended up successful and earn a lot and make more money. Those who are well knowledgeable and well experienced about bitcoin, rest assured that they will most likely succeed, but for those who are only here for quick profits, they end up losing a lot and eventually quit bitcoin investment.

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Quote from: erep on July 14, 2024, 03:44:14 PM

However, I agree with your statement that rich people will get richer with their business, I think life is unfair but that is the reality of life, we can also wake up with enough capital to build a business even though the profits are small. We must be consistent in running the business to achieve high profits in the future.

Regardless of whether it is fair or not, in the end, things like this must always be maintained because after all, when things like this are changed by wanting equality in terms of wealth and wealth, for example it will also disrupt the electability of life so that no matter how fair or not between the rich and the poor, it must still continue because it is a wheel that cannot be lost.

With this condition, it will actually create a new thing where the life lived becomes not monotonous and makes this a condition where there is competition, especially when the poor who are trying to catch up with the rich and the rich who maintain their power.
We are set up for something like that, because it would not be funny if the justice system was seen only because of equality in wealth, if that happened then who would work as an employee because everyone would want to be the boss. So whether it's fair or not all depends on the portion for this kind of thing.

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Quote from: yudi09 on July 17, 2024, 01:16:52 PM

Quote from: Yucky on June 25, 2024, 01:35:32 AM

REMEMBER
   50% profit on $1000 is $500
   5% profit on $100,000 is $5000
      THE IMPLICATION IS;
Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.

If you make a wrong choice as intended, the statement that the higher the capital, the higher the profits, will not apply, both in crypto activities and in other types of activities.
If the sentence applies to this type of crypto activity, then the designation of Bitcoin is appropriate to interpret the sentence. The calculation of the percentage of 50% profit from $1000 is that $500 will be earned even though the Bitcoin market fluctuates, it could be more than $500.

Then this will go back to what the profit target is in its representation, is the percentage or the amount of money you want to get.
I strongly agree with it that we are not looking for a hundred-fold multiplier to get a very large multiplication of money if the capital is large, we will get a large profit if our capital is also large even if the percentage increase is small and that's how it works very well in investing rather than focusing on a high percentage increase.

While it is also true that we need to talk about the opposite, big profits must have big risks, if it is said that the profit can reach $5000 from $100,000 then vice versa if you get a 5% loss of $5000 too and that is a considerable amount, which if a bad mentality will get a very bad loss too if panic selling occurs, this must be considered in the use of large capital, so do not just focus on profits alone without considering the risks that you can accept.

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Quote from: Yucky on June 25, 2024, 01:35:32 AM

From basic economic principles, if you have a higher capital, you will certainly have higher returns compared to starting with a smaller capital. If you're just chasing returns or expecting a huge profit margin but pay slight attention to how much you use as your capital, even when you make a profit, the extent of your profit will largely depend on how much is your Capital.

   REMEMBER
   50% profit on $1000 is $500
   5% profit on $100,000 is $5000
      THE IMPLICATION IS;
Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.

I think you are looking at this the wrong way around. People who have little money have to take much higher risks in order to get the same returns as those investing with much more money. However when risk goes up, there chance you will walk away with less or even no money at the end gets higher. What you'll tend to find is that people with money have learned, through practice generally, to read risk better and even conserve their funds. They will often be encouraged to diversify by financial experts, so if they have a million they might have 500k in property, 400k in stocks and 100k in more risky assets which can balance out to give a reasonable return - but they know not to overstretch their resources.

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Quote from: Yucky on June 25, 2024, 01:35:32 AM

REMEMBER
   50% profit on $1000 is $500
   5% profit on $100,000 is $5000
      THE IMPLICATION IS;
Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.

If you make a wrong choice as intended, the statement that the higher the capital, the higher the profits, will not apply, both in crypto activities and in other types of activities.
If the sentence applies to this type of crypto activity, then the designation of Bitcoin is appropriate to interpret the sentence. The calculation of the percentage of 50% profit from $1000 is that $500 will be earned even though the Bitcoin market fluctuates, it could be more than $500.

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Quote from: Etranger on July 17, 2024, 02:31:52 AM

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You're right but it depends and I think that most of them are conservative. While they've got funds that come from other investments as well, they want to protect it more and stay with the typical approach that they have that the safer route is better than taking bigger risks. But it's true, we don't know what kind of how big that risk they take for other projects that they have on their ports. Maybe that big for us is low for them because of how much they have and how they are used to these risks that has become part of their lives.

The hardest thing about wealth is not to earn it for the first time, but to save it. And this task requires a person to be flexible and keep up with the times. Conservatism will lead to decline, because it does not allow you to see new, more profitable opportunities. If a person managed to earn a fortune 30 years ago, but now does not turn to new investment opportunities, then after some time he will simply lose it, because what worked 30 years ago is no longer effective today. This is why I do not believe in the conservatism of rich people (if they remain rich, and have not lost their capital). Conservative people remain where they started, without moving forward.

I agree, that preservation of the wealth that's obtained from the hard way is the hardest. This is also the reason why the rich are getting richer because they are preserving their wealth and they are doing everything they can to save it. As for that thought about conservatism, I can understand that many of the rich are still like that. But I also see wealthy people that are adopting the changes that's happening to this world, coming from the trends, businesses and whatever they are up to in things that they do.

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Quote from: tabas on July 16, 2024, 03:54:50 PM

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We won't go and say about guaranteed profits but it's safer to say that there's lesser and low risk that they'll choose and that's how many of them assess risks that they're taking.

Actually, I think they have both low-risk and high-risk projects in their portfolios. They know that each of these options can be interesting and profitable, so it is better to have both, rather than choosing one over the other, reducing your chances of profit in that case. But of course risk management works in each of these cases.

You're right but it depends and I think that most of them are conservative. While they've got funds that come from other investments as well, they want to protect it more and stay with the typical approach that they have that the safer route is better than taking bigger risks. But it's true, we don't know what kind of how big that risk they take for other projects that they have on their ports. Maybe that big for us is low for them because of how much they have and how they are used to these risks that has become part of their lives.

The hardest thing about wealth is not to earn it for the first time, but to save it. And this task requires a person to be flexible and keep up with the times. Conservatism will lead to decline, because it does not allow you to see new, more profitable opportunities. If a person managed to earn a fortune 30 years ago, but now does not turn to new investment opportunities, then after some time he will simply lose it, because what worked 30 years ago is no longer effective today. This is why I do not believe in the conservatism of rich people (if they remain rich, and have not lost their capital). Conservative people remain where they started, without moving forward.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on July 15, 2024, 03:26:03 PM

If I base it on the traditional way of doing business, it is true that when you have a large amount of fund capital that will be allocated to the business, there is a high chance that we will get a profit from it, but the chances that we will lose money are also high, or the risk is high too.

At the same time, when it is small capital, it is always a small risk, and with small capital, you expect profit to be small, but when it comes to crypto business, it is not like that because your small capital here in crypto or business can be multiplied. of 100x up to 1000x or more.

When it comes to crypto, there's always an exception. Most beginners these days just want to start investing or trading with a huge capital because their greed for quick profits is high. But the fact that majority of them do not come well handed and are less knowledgeable about how the investment works, they end up seeing their huge capital go into waste.

So it's not really applicable in crypto having more capital, higher returns as well. Unless if you have high experience on making your investments highly profitable in the long run.

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Quote from: Etranger on July 16, 2024, 06:18:37 AM

Quote from: tabas on July 14, 2024, 11:58:56 AM

We won't go and say about guaranteed profits but it's safer to say that there's lesser and low risk that they'll choose and that's how many of them assess risks that they're taking.

Actually, I think they have both low-risk and high-risk projects in their portfolios. They know that each of these options can be interesting and profitable, so it is better to have both, rather than choosing one over the other, reducing your chances of profit in that case. But of course risk management works in each of these cases.

You're right but it depends and I think that most of them are conservative. While they've got funds that come from other investments as well, they want to protect it more and stay with the typical approach that they have that the safer route is better than taking bigger risks. But it's true, we don't know what kind of how big that risk they take for other projects that they have on their ports. Maybe that big for us is low for them because of how much they have and how they are used to these risks that has become part of their lives.

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Quote from: erep on July 14, 2024, 03:44:14 PM

Rich people have the advantage of being able to allocate high business capital without needing to apply for a capital loan from a bank, they can build a business according to initial planning and they can do anything to increase their business income, they have financial support to make their business a success, they even allocate campaign funds for business promotion on top billboards.

However, I agree with your statement that rich people will get richer with their business, I think life is unfair but that is the reality of life, we can also wake up with enough capital to build a business even though the profits are small. We must be consistent in running the business to achieve high profits in the future.

I hope you know that most rich people that we see around with large successful businesses are mostly on loans. Even the likes of Bexoz don't sell their shares to create another sub business, what they do is they take loan from banks to cover any new project they have in hand because selling shares means they will be selling with some tax to the government but taking loan and using the share as collateral help them take loan with any tax and they pay back when they make back the money from the business or take another loans.

Rich people are getting richer because they have the resources to be richer while poor man doesn't have the reouces to be richer. If you are rich and have assets, you can gave access to large loan quickly without any problem but if you have nothing, you might not be granted the loans and you Will be stuck within your range with idea but can't grow, this is the problem that limit poor people to grow their business and investment.

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Quote from: tabas on July 14, 2024, 11:58:56 AM

We won't go and say about guaranteed profits but it's safer to say that there's lesser and low risk that they'll choose and that's how many of them assess risks that they're taking.

Actually, I think they have both low-risk and high-risk projects in their portfolios. They know that each of these options can be interesting and profitable, so it is better to have both, rather than choosing one over the other, reducing your chances of profit in that case. But of course risk management works in each of these cases.

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Quote from: jaberwock on July 15, 2024, 12:06:24 PM

Quote from: tabas on July 14, 2024, 11:58:56 AM

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I think that rich people pay attention to absolute numbers as well, as to the percentage. And sometimes they are more interested in getting the percentage because it is attractive and quite large. But sometimes they really agree to a low percentage, about 1-3, but with their initial investment the return is quite high. It all depends on their risk management strategy.

I agree, they are great at measuring the risk that they're taking and whether the numbers are high or low as long as they get decent returns. That's what all matters to them. There are conservative investors that even the return would definitely be too low for them, it won't matter as long as they're safe and low risk. We won't go and say about guaranteed profits but it's safer to say that there's lesser and low risk that they'll choose and that's how many of them assess risks that they're taking.

It is not even just about measuring risk, it's about calculating risk/reward ratio correctly.

Yeah, that's called risk management and mitigation.

Quote from: jaberwock on July 15, 2024, 12:06:24 PM

If you have 50% chance of making 1 million dollars when you bet 10 dollars on something, you would bet on it won't you? Everyone would, worst case you lose ten bucks, best case you win a million dollars. But reverse it, and if you could make 10 dollars with a 50% chance if you bet 1 million dollars, would you then do it? Of course not, that would not make sense at all. Now what is the middleground and reasonable place? What is the % in any situation?

We're good at taking a risk with small amounts and the potential of having larger rewards. It's the same with investing in Bitcoin several years ago, the risk is quite high and you're not obliged to invest with a large amount. But the others defied that fear and took the risk with bigger sums of capital and now, those who have held and are patient are raking in the results of that risk because of their bravery.

Quote from: jaberwock on July 15, 2024, 12:06:24 PM

We do not know that and we can't possibly know it, but at the same time we are talking about something that will take a while, and we should be considering the fact that it is not going to be what we know, yet whales do know it.

Whales have got an idea because they can afford to invest with larger capital. Whilst for most commoners like me and probably you, we're actually taking the risk as it seems going to be a gamble if we have little knowledge about it and that's why in general as an investor, we need to know what we're dealing with.

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If I base it on the traditional way of doing business, it is true that when you have a large amount of fund capital that will be allocated to the business, there is a high chance that we will get a profit from it, but the chances that we will lose money are also high, or the risk is high too.

At the same time, when it is small capital, it is always a small risk, and with small capital, you expect profit to be small, but when it comes to crypto business, it is not like that because your small capital here in crypto or business can be multiplied. of 100x up to 1000x or more.

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This is very true and exactly what is happening in the airdrop space nowadays. If you look at all tye point system projects who has already airdroped to users, you will discover that those who are at the top 10 for example have tye highest points and as such earned the bigger portion of the airdrop percent.
The more money you suppl in a pool, the bigger will be your airdrop reward. Same thing applies to investment, the more tye merrier.
Reason why the rich will always get richer because they have the capital to invest heavily.

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Quote from: tabas on July 14, 2024, 11:58:56 AM

Quote from: Etranger on July 14, 2024, 11:33:45 AM

I think that rich people pay attention to absolute numbers as well, as to the percentage. And sometimes they are more interested in getting the percentage because it is attractive and quite large. But sometimes they really agree to a low percentage, about 1-3, but with their initial investment the return is quite high. It all depends on their risk management strategy.

I agree, they are great at measuring the risk that they're taking and whether the numbers are high or low as long as they get decent returns. That's what all matters to them. There are conservative investors that even the return would definitely be too low for them, it won't matter as long as they're safe and low risk. We won't go and say about guaranteed profits but it's safer to say that there's lesser and low risk that they'll choose and that's how many of them assess risks that they're taking.

It is not even just about measuring risk, it's about calculating risk/reward ratio correctly. If you have 50% chance of making 1 million dollars when you bet 10 dollars on something, you would bet on it won't you? Everyone would, worst case you lose ten bucks, best case you win a million dollars. But reverse it, and if you could make 10 dollars with a 50% chance if you bet 1 million dollars, would you then do it? Of course not, that would not make sense at all. Now what is the middleground and reasonable place? What is the % in any situation?

We do not know that and we can't possibly know it, but at the same time we are talking about something that will take a while, and we should be considering the fact that it is not going to be what we know, yet whales do know it.

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Quote from: erep on July 14, 2024, 03:44:14 PM

Quote from: crwth on July 14, 2024, 12:12:38 PM

I also believe that having higher capital would help you get a return in the long run. this is also one of the reasons why rich people who have great management skills are getting even richer. They are smart with the money and could really make things better for them and find profit anywhere.

Rich people have the advantage of being able to allocate high business capital without needing to apply for a capital loan from a bank, they can build a business according to initial planning and they can do anything to increase their business income, they have financial support to make their business a success, they even allocate campaign funds for business promotion on top billboards.

However, I agree with your statement that rich people will get richer with their business, I think life is unfair but that is the reality of life, we can also wake up with enough capital to build a business even though the profits are small. We must be consistent in running the business to achieve high profits in the future.

Apart from the money they have that can support what they want to do, they also have experience and steps from previous businesses that have brought them success. From this experience, there are many things they will gain, because apart from learning from failure, we also have to learn from success because it will show us a little of the way and what we have to do to be successful.
So far, we often hear someone say "learn from mistakes", but we rarely hear people say "learn from success". Even if you think about it, it's just as important, maybe we haven't experienced success, but we can learn from other people's success. Because currently there are many people sharing their experiences, yes, although sometimes there are some of them who I don't agree with because they have different privileges.

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Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.

When you chase high capital no matter the inflation in your country and invest in a decentralized business or real estate business, what you will get in return will increase you financially in your environment because you have pay the sacrifice to use big capital in the business.

When you go after big profit without increasing your capital in that particular business, it will be hard for you to achieve the profit that will satisfy you because high capital allow investors to achieve their target when the price pump higher in the market. Having different sources of income can also help you to increase your capital because you will see some good business you can invest to increase your source of income, but those that don't have such opportunity to increase their capital always struggle to increase their capital in the land.

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Quote from: crwth on July 14, 2024, 12:12:38 PM

I also believe that having higher capital would help you get a return in the long run. this is also one of the reasons why rich people who have great management skills are getting even richer. They are smart with the money and could really make things better for them and find profit anywhere.

Rich people have the advantage of being able to allocate high business capital without needing to apply for a capital loan from a bank, they can build a business according to initial planning and they can do anything to increase their business income, they have financial support to make their business a success, they even allocate campaign funds for business promotion on top billboards.

However, I agree with your statement that rich people will get richer with their business, I think life is unfair but that is the reality of life, we can also wake up with enough capital to build a business even though the profits are small. We must be consistent in running the business to achieve high profits in the future.

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