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Quote from: Bitinity on July 02, 2024, 04:14:20 PM

The higher the capital = the higher chance to get more profit but at the same time it is also has higher risk to lose bigger amount of money. There are some other things to consider aside capital such as plan, strategy, timing, and capital efficiency. Without good plan, good strategy, good timing as well as good capital efficiency, our huge capital will be useless or even worse it will only lead us into negative result.

I'm sure there were many failed business in this world although they started with big capital. The reason can be different from one business to other, but I think the most common reason is about failure in managing the capital wisely because of wrong plans and strategies while running the business. So I cant fully agree that the higher capital = the higher the returns, because there is no guarantee of profit in any kind of business. When a risk is involved, we should always aware that there is possibility to lose regardless how much our capital.

Agree with your view, the more capital we have, the more profit we get, because the more capital we spend, the more risk we take, because the amount of capital does not guarantee a lot of profit, but a lot of the profit comes from our methods. manage it.

That's why before we spend a lot of capital on a business, the most important thing is that we must first learn how to manage a business correctly and on target, because it all has to start with knowledge, not just determination, there is an intention that we have to understand and the knowledge, then After that we can increase capital little by little, don't immediately spend a lot of capital at once.

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The higher the capital = the higher chance to get more profit but at the same time it is also has higher risk to lose bigger amount of money. There are some other things to consider aside capital such as plan, strategy, timing, and capital efficiency. Without good plan, good strategy, good timing as well as good capital efficiency, our huge capital will be useless or even worse it will only lead us into negative result.

I'm sure there were many failed business in this world although they started with big capital. The reason can be different from one business to other, but I think the most common reason is about failure in managing the capital wisely because of wrong plans and strategies while running the business. So I cant fully agree that the higher capital = the higher the returns, because there is no guarantee of profit in any kind of business. When a risk is involved, we should always aware that there is possibility to lose regardless how much our capital.

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Quote from: kingvirtus09 on July 02, 2024, 02:32:29 PM

In the traditional way of doing business, the higher the capital that you allocate to the business investment, when the opportunity you chose is successful, the profit that can be returned to you is also large, and when the capital is small, the return is always small.

But if it's like the Bitcoin or crypto industry, it can be the same as the traditional way of doing business, and it's also possible that even if it's just a small amount of capital, if the cryptocurrency you've chosen is right to hold it long-term, it's sure to be 100x more profitable and sometimes even reach more than 1000x what it returns to investors, which cannot happen in traditional business.

The higher the capital the more versatile actions or plans on which you could really be able to possibly apply and this is something thats one of the advantage when it comes to on having that bigger capital in compared to those who do have less but of course when it comes to the risks that you are really that taking then it would really be that higher and this is something that you should really be tending to consider to look
but of course you do know that potential earning that you could get on the moment that you would really be having that that bigger capital. When running up a business or planning to have that investment
then it would really be just that just that on how someone would really be able to cope up and tries out to handle such thing.

You should really be that wary on the risks involved if you do really want or having that kind of risks management on which it would really be always something crucial or something
that you would really be needing up to consider on every steps that you are taking whether having that small or big capital.

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In the traditional way of doing business, the higher the capital that you allocate to the business investment, when the opportunity you chose is successful, the profit that can be returned to you is also large, and when the capital is small, the return is always small.

But if it's like the Bitcoin or crypto industry, it can be the same as the traditional way of doing business, and it's also possible that even if it's just a small amount of capital, if the cryptocurrency you've chosen is right to hold it long-term, it's sure to be 100x more profitable and sometimes even reach more than 1000x what it returns to investors, which cannot happen in traditional business.

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Quote from: Yucky on June 25, 2024, 01:35:32 AM

Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.

This applies almost everywhere and the greater the capital we invest, the greater the opportunity to make a profit. Chasing big profits with small capital is impossible and we have to accumulate a long period of time with repeated patterns. For example, if the investment capital we make in Bitcoin is small, then to achieve profits we have to repeat the same thing every time. Of course, the risk is that it doesn't always go as we want because there are times when we go outside the set targets.

So when someone wants to pursue big profits, the level of rationality only depends on how much capital we invest. This applies not only in the world of investment because in business and other things it also has similarities. Because the path to getting big profits will follow the pattern of capital that we will place.

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Its not that we cant deny that the more capital we have, the greater the profit we have, it's just that it only refers to that context because in fact we have to think about how to profit as well because it doesn't mean that with a lot of capital, we will definitely profit and with little capital we will make a big profit because its just a way to look at it from a positive perspective. When talking about business or investment, its not as easy as just based on capital, there are so many things that need to be prepared, there is a plan that we must realize is more important and of course we need several backup plans to support it better because in the end, the benefits of business or other things such as investment are certainly not only based on capital alone. Although capital is important, there are other aspects that support it so that capital does not just disappea .

Some time, capital is not a determinant in business. The first thing that matters most is idea of a particular business. Follow by other things like capital. Because when you have a good idea of a particular business, you can even start a business without capital. example those doing affiliate marketing. these people are doing business and they don't have their own capital why? because of the business idea that they have. But even if you have a huge amount of money as a capital, without a business idea, you are going to fail if care is not taken.
Furthermore, you May have big capital but because you don't know how to operate it in a business or you don't know the kind of investment you will do with it, your profit may be small, and somebody with small amount of money may have huge profit than your own because he or she knows how to do with it. So it not automatic.

But looking at your example, capital still plays a role in the end, right? Moreover, ideas without capital will only be a wish without realization in the end.

Taking an example from what you mentioned such as affiliation in this case regardless of whether it is large or small in the end it also has capital because for affiliation we must have facilities as initial capital so that no business is truly without capital because in the end everything also refers to capital whether large or small because in this case when we talk about the business of goods or services it still requires initial capital in the form of supporting infrastructure.

Indeed, the idea also from the beginning clearly must be taken into account but in the end if only the idea is owned without any other factors that we can make capital everything will not work in the end.

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Quote from: Raflesia on June 28, 2024, 02:04:38 PM

Its not that we cant deny that the more capital we have, the greater the profit we have, it's just that it only refers to that context because in fact we have to think about how to profit as well because it doesn't mean that with a lot of capital, we will definitely profit and with little capital we will make a big profit because its just a way to look at it from a positive perspective. When talking about business or investment, its not as easy as just based on capital, there are so many things that need to be prepared, there is a plan that we must realize is more important and of course we need several backup plans to support it better because in the end, the benefits of business or other things such as investment are certainly not only based on capital alone. Although capital is important, there are other aspects that support it so that capital does not just disappea .

Some time, capital is not a determinant in business. The first thing that matters most is idea of a particular business. Follow by other things like capital. Because when you have a good idea of a particular business, you can even start a business without capital. example those doing affiliate marketing. these people are doing business and they don't have their own capital why? because of the business idea that they have. But even if you have a huge amount of money as a capital, without a business idea, you are going to fail if care is not taken.
Furthermore, you May have big capital but because you don't know how to operate it in a business or you don't know the kind of investment you will do with it, your profit may be small, and somebody with small amount of money may have huge profit than your own because he or she knows how to do with it. So it not automatic.

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Quote from: Yucky on June 25, 2024, 01:35:32 AM

From basic economic principles, if you have a higher capital, you will certainly have higher returns compared to starting with a smaller capital. If you're just chasing returns or expecting a huge profit margin but pay slight attention to how much you use as your capital, even when you make a profit, the extent of your profit will largely depend on how much is your Capital.

   REMEMBER
   50% profit on $1000 is $500
   5% profit on $100,000 is $5000
      THE IMPLICATION IS;
Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.

This is the problem many investors are facing not knowing that they would have to invest more so that they can earn more money. When we invest in the crypto market with huge funds, we would not be too greedy to make huge profits because the money is huge and any slight movement in the cryptocurrency market can results in a huge problem without stress. This also applies for those people that the market goes contrary to their movement or predictions. If we want to make bigger money in the crypto market, we should be very much prepared to make money if not we might have to stressed trying to use small capital to earn big profits in the market.

When you do have that bigger capital or simply having that financial capacity then you would really be having that kind of advantage on which it would really be just that a normal approach or thing to understand .
It all matters on how someone would really be that wise on taking up decisions basing up on the current condition.Whereas, if he do really knows about the advantage on having that financial capacity then
you would really be that mainly thinking about that diversification thing on which it would really be giving out that kind of opportunity or chance that you would really be that earning more compared on what you are
currently that earning or taking. It all matters about risk taking since not all would really be that having this kind of consideration.

On the moment that you would really be just that making yourself that investing on huge amounts then it would really be that getting equalled on how much you could
potentially lose. This is the cons that you would really be having but doesnt mean that it would really be something that completely stop you on taking up such step forward
just because you are really that afraid on dealing up with things.

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Quote from: Yucky on June 25, 2024, 01:35:32 AM

From basic economic principles, if you have a higher capital, you will certainly have higher returns compared to starting with a smaller capital. If you're just chasing returns or expecting a huge profit margin but pay slight attention to how much you use as your capital, even when you make a profit, the extent of your profit will largely depend on how much is your Capital.

   REMEMBER
   50% profit on $1000 is $500
   5% profit on $100,000 is $5000
      THE IMPLICATION IS;
Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.

This is the problem many investors are facing not knowing that they would have to invest more so that they can earn more money. When we invest in the crypto market with huge funds, we would not be too greedy to make huge profits because the money is huge and any slight movement in the cryptocurrency market can results in a huge problem without stress. This also applies for those people that the market goes contrary to their movement or predictions. If we want to make bigger money in the crypto market, we should be very much prepared to make money if not we might have to stressed trying to use small capital to earn big profits in the market.

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Quote from: Iranus on June 30, 2024, 03:34:17 AM

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Quote from: Iranus on June 29, 2024, 03:42:03 AM

Of course, with a larger amount of capital, you will gain more profits, but if you lose, you will also suffer heavier losses, which is obvious because everything is proportional to each other. There is no investment that is both safe and highly profitable and vice versa.
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But normally those who have a lot of capital do not risk so much. If you know anyone who works in private banking or investment banking, you will see that the strategies of high net worth individuals are generally more focused on capital preservation than on gaining more capital. With large capital you can live comfortably on income with low risk investments, whereas if you are building your capital it makes sense to risk more, especially if you are young.

I don't deny that and as I said, high profits high risks, low profits low risks. People with large amounts of capital will not be foolish to invest in things that are too risky and too volatile, they will take advantage of their large capital and invest in things with low returns but are safer.

I've also said this many times before and I'm positive that bitcoin is not always everyone's choice. People like us who have little capital but want to get rich will need to take risks and bitcoin is the perfect choice. But for the rich, they have no reason to choose bitcoin and risk their money when they have better options than investing in gold and real estate. That way, they were able to easily make bigger profits than us based on their large capital.

I agree with your point of view because my thinking is also like you. Very rich people always prefer property because property is safe and they can occupy it and they can get fare from tanent in case of they gave their house to get rent. I also like rental properties and I helped my friend in buying the rental and he got 100 percent money from that in 10 years and now that asset has double to triple rate of the price at which he buy that property. Many big owners buy and sell markets sand shops and that is very difficult for us to invest in because we are middle class people that depends on salary. We get monthly salary from the frum and after that Government get 5 percent commission on the salary and then we pay gas and electricity bills and we are entrapped in that procedure.

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Quote from: Yucky on June 25, 2024, 01:35:32 AM

From basic economic principles, if you have a higher capital, you will certainly have higher returns compared to starting with a smaller capital. If you're just chasing returns or expecting a huge profit margin but pay slight attention to how much you use as your capital, even when you make a profit, the extent of your profit will largely depend on how much is your Capital.

   REMEMBER
   50% profit on $1000 is $500
   5% profit on $100,000 is $5000
      THE IMPLICATION IS;
Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.

Not necessarily, you're talking about shit in an ideal setting, where there is no business venture or anything of that matter that ever fails, to which I say it's true. However, you have to take into account that risks happen all the time, and sometimes for no apparent reason even.

That's why not chasing high capitals is the best course of action for many people, you have to find that sweet middle ground where you're able to invest as much as you can, but at the same time have a backup plan just in case it doesn't work. That's why we keep saying shit like "don't invest what you can't afford to lose, cause as it specifically says, losing something you can't afford to not have will set you back astronomically, you may not even be able to recover at all in some cases.

So in the case of investing, starting up a business, or anything that is equal to that effect, always find that middle level where you can maximize your earnings, while securing your losses as much as possible.

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Quote from: Pi-network314159 on July 01, 2024, 04:36:57 AM

It doesn't work that way mate. The highest the capital the higher the return may sound nice in the ear, but how possible it could be? What can you say about those that have a higher capital yet the still lose in business? The capital can only play a vital role in entrepreneurship when it is utilised properly or invested in a business that will yeald a better profit, otherwise you way still invest big and reap lose. Over the years many investors has lose alot of fund to business due to lack of orientation and planing and they later because bankrupt.

What you have said is actually enough to illustrate that all businesses must have a clear orientation and planning and also be properly integrated so that any capital used is not lost in vain. I quite agree with what you say because it is quite a real thing that happens in various businesses when capital is not managed properly and is not invested in a business that is promising enough. Because losing large amounts of capital through a particular business will make it difficult for the owner to make a comeback through another business even though it is still possible to do so.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on July 01, 2024, 05:06:42 AM

Quote from: Yucky on June 25, 2024, 01:35:32 AM

Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.

Without starting from a smaller base and investment you can’t reach the next goal or even gather sufficient capital. I’m saying this because I know not everyone is born wealthy and have the choice start with initial capital to grow. Instead, if you work and invest intelligently in your field to achieve better returns, you can gradually manage to reach larger capital.

As some users have mentioned out; life isn't always easy or everything in black and white. Not all advice applies for everyone since each person has his own circumstances, environment, and life goals are unique.

This is true, if we are people starting from zero then what we need to pursue is bigger profits because once we have big profits, our capital will increase. Not everyone is born with an inheritance or their parents give them money to start a business, and not everyone gets to choose the amount of initial capital they can own.

Quote from: GxSTxV on July 01, 2024, 05:06:42 AM

I would also like to mention that the larger your capital becomes, the greater the risk of bigger losses. Personally, I prioritize higher returns despite the increased risk related with larger capital.

But people with large capital will never invest in high-risk investments and they know how to manage their finances effectively, thereby minimizing risks.

You prioritize high profits because as I said, people who do not have large capital but want to earn high profits will be willing to accept risks to seek greater rewards. That's why we're here, and our top pick is bitcoin, not gold or real estate.

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Quote from: Yucky on June 25, 2024, 01:35:32 AM

Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.

Without starting from a smaller base and investment you can’t reach the next goal or even gather sufficient capital. I’m saying this because I know not everyone is born wealthy and have the choice start with initial capital to grow. Instead, if you work and invest intelligently in your field to achieve better returns, you can gradually manage to reach larger capital.

As some users have mentioned out; life isn't always easy or everything in black and white. Not all advice applies for everyone since each person has his own circumstances, environment, and life goals are unique.

I would also like to mention that the larger your capital becomes, the greater the risk of bigger losses. Personally, I prioritize higher returns despite the increased risk related with larger capital.

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It doesn't work that way mate. The highest the capital the higher the return may sound nice in the ear, but how possible it could be? What can you say about those that have a higher capital yet the still lose in business? The capital can only play a vital role in entrepreneurship when it is utilised properly or invested in a business that will yeald a better profit, otherwise you way still invest big and reap lose. Over the years many investors has lose alot of fund to business due to lack of orientation and planing and they later because bankrupt.

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You can set the profit you want to get, but usually traders will forget or do not consider it important to set a loss that can be afford.
So thinking about profit in trading is not something that will definitely be obtained because there is also a risk of loss, so the journey will not always be in accordance with the theory.

Big capital will indeed provide greater profits but also greater losses, such as the difficulty of getting profits is even more difficult to make our capital bigger unless we are from a wealthy family whose money is so much that it doesn't matter to increase the capital, even traders with small finances will be afraid of losing capital and profits earned so that they will stick to the initial capital without thinking of adding capital from profits.

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Quote from: Yucky on June 25, 2024, 01:35:32 AM

   REMEMBER
   50% profit on $1000 is $500
   5% profit on $100,000 is $5000

This theory is correct in economics provided all things being equa,l but in reality all things are not always equal, so it's not applicable in all areas of businesses and investments. The more capital that a shop owner has to stock up goods will be the more customers that will patronize the business because they will get varieties of what they want, meaning more profit for the business owner. If another shop owner puts more capital into his business and stocks goods that are not marketable or not in demand, he will run into loses despite the huge capital.

In cryptocurrency the more money you invest in Bitcoin will give you greater ROI on the long run because it's a store of value that always increases in price. The same thing can not be said about most altcoins, the more money that you use to invest in then is the higher risk of loosing your capital. If it's a scam coin/ token your lose will be higher because you invested a higher amount of money.

Before investing money into any business it's very important to carry out research on the business, to know the chances of making high ROI when you invest a lot of money into it. Otherwise the high capital will amount to high loses.

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Quote from: Iranus on June 30, 2024, 03:34:17 AM

I don't deny that and as I said, high profits high risks, low profits low risks. People with large amounts of capital will not be foolish to invest in things that are too risky and too volatile, they will take advantage of their large capital and invest in things with low returns but are safer.

Yep mate your statement is just absolutely right that people with higher capital will not invest in something that is based on a higher level of risk and volatility because the requirement of wisdom is that by investing in volatile assets, not only high return can be obtained but also high losses can be obtained. So first of all it is logically proven that only a foolish person can do this stance and not a wise person. And the second thing is that even from a technical perspective, if someone has high amounts of funds and invests them in something that has a large flow of volume on a daily basis, then there is no doubt that due to high volatility. Neither can lose their funds easily. So my opinion is that if someone has high amounts of funds, but he should not invest all the funds together, rather he should reconsider the fact that he should invest so much fund that he risks his life by losing it. I can't put it because the high volatility of Bitcoin can give you a massive loss.

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Quote from: Yucky on June 25, 2024, 01:35:32 AM

From basic economic principles, if you have a higher capital, you will certainly have higher returns compared to starting with a smaller capital. If you're just chasing returns or expecting a huge profit margin but pay slight attention to how much you use as your capital, even when you make a profit, the extent of your profit will largely depend on how much is your Capital.

   REMEMBER
   50% profit on $1000 is $500
   5% profit on $100,000 is $5000
      THE IMPLICATION IS;
Don't chase bigger returns, chase more capital. This is also applicable to How much you invest in Bitcoin and how much profit you can get from it.

Always on two ways, bro. Yes bigger capital leads to bigger profit but also loss potential. If you have the financial capacity to "go big" then that's good however not all people could put that much on investments. Also, speaking of investments, no investment could generate assured profit. So I would more prefer encouraging people to invest in accordance with their risk appetite than to just follow the numbers. As I agreed upon, bigger capitals could lead to bigger profits but not in all instances. If you happened to invest on a losing asset, what to expect then? Nothing's guaranteed, always choose to manage the risk than to just aim for what could give you bigger returns.

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I have also noticed that the more capital available the easier it becomes making more money. In other words, with big capital, the investor can better mitigate risk and explore options that yield lower returns with lower risk. For instance, investor with $500 might not consider buying Bitcoin which many people believe is high priced and cannot easily yield X2 profit, hence such will explore other options such as altcoins or memecoin and will often lose his capital. Meanwhile someone with $500k can just buy Bitcoin and 30% rise in price will give such a big profit.

That makes sense as ive been wondering why people always recommend btc even tho alt will gives more returns, probably because big money is in btc, so in a way it has less risk than an alt?

Well, knowing Bitcoin, we cannot hide the fact that it is more reliable than with altcoins. Yes, all cryptos have risk and market price volatility in nature but Bitcoin has proven itself to recover on every market price decline over the years giving it a more compact trust from this industry.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on June 29, 2024, 04:42:51 AM

Quote from: Iranus on June 29, 2024, 03:42:03 AM

Of course, with a larger amount of capital, you will gain more profits, but if you lose, you will also suffer heavier losses, which is obvious because everything is proportional to each other. There is no investment that is both safe and highly profitable and vice versa.
money.

But normally those who have a lot of capital do not risk so much. If you know anyone who works in private banking or investment banking, you will see that the strategies of high net worth individuals are generally more focused on capital preservation than on gaining more capital. With large capital you can live comfortably on income with low risk investments, whereas if you are building your capital it makes sense to risk more, especially if you are young.

I don't deny that and as I said, high profits high risks, low profits low risks. People with large amounts of capital will not be foolish to invest in things that are too risky and too volatile, they will take advantage of their large capital and invest in things with low returns but are safer.

I've also said this many times before and I'm positive that bitcoin is not always everyone's choice. People like us who have little capital but want to get rich will need to take risks and bitcoin is the perfect choice. But for the rich, they have no reason to choose bitcoin and risk their money when they have better options than investing in gold and real estate. That way, they were able to easily make bigger profits than us based on their large capital.

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