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I don't think Bitcoin price will plunge, altcoin will only need to go and meet Bitcoin at the top, there are some prjection that by March 2018, Bitcoin will be at $10k

By march 2018 that may be right, but before it goes there it'll drop, it has always done that, and it will keep doing that
Every pump have a corresponding dump, what we don't know is up to what amount and when will it occur, so always have a backup plan and backup cash too sinace it will be long ride. Roll Eyes
We should really get used to it knowing crypto trading is really just like a sea which it do have waves and for us traders or investors we should really know how to ride incase if theres a storm.Back up plans would really be always suggested incase of unexpected things do happen.$10k price prediction is somehow possible but not would happen on next year for sure.

Bitcoin is always a solid hedge, just like right now. In that case you can always invest some in the alts in case they dump
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Sooner or later the money is going to flow into alts. The higher bitoin goes, the stronger alts rebound will be.
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Now that the fork is happening,seemingly,  the trend is positive toward the fork. It's possible that people want to repeat the success of BCH so that they're grabbing bitcoin as much as they can whereas other btc owners are holding as well. So the price is increasing because of that. There seems to be a reasonable level of certainty as to what will happen after the fork , which is that there might  be a massive dump because they may move their money into altcoins again.
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The problem with many alts is that tokens are useless for the moment. Many projects can't explain why you should hold their tokens for a real use and I think it's dangerous.

The tokens are basically tradeable shares, barely different from the shares of microsoft or google, except they're spendable to some extent
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The problem with many alts is that tokens are useless for the moment. Many projects can't explain why you should hold their tokens for a real use and I think it's dangerous.
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I must say I think 10k is very possible soon. I think around June or July bitcoin will be 10k A LOT of people are getting into bitcoin and altcoins at the time.
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I don't think Bitcoin price will plunge, altcoin will only need to go and meet Bitcoin at the top, there are some prjection that by March 2018, Bitcoin will be at $10k

By march 2018 that may be right, but before it goes there it'll drop, it has always done that, and it will keep doing that
Every pump have a corresponding dump, what we don't know is up to what amount and when will it occur, so always have a backup plan and backup cash too sinace it will be long ride. Roll Eyes
We should really get used to it knowing crypto trading is really just like a sea which it do have waves and for us traders or investors we should really know how to ride incase if theres a storm.Back up plans would really be always suggested incase of unexpected things do happen.$10k price prediction is somehow possible but not would happen on next year for sure.
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I don't think Bitcoin price will plunge, altcoin will only need to go and meet Bitcoin at the top, there are some prjection that by March 2018, Bitcoin will be at $10k

By march 2018 that may be right, but before it goes there it'll drop, it has always done that, and it will keep doing that
Every pump have a corresponding dump, what we don't know is up to what amount and when will it occur, so always have a backup plan and backup cash too sinace it will be long ride. Roll Eyes
sr. member
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I don't think Bitcoin price will plunge, altcoin will only need to go and meet Bitcoin at the top, there are some prjection that by March 2018, Bitcoin will be at $10k

By march 2018 that may be right, but before it goes there it'll drop, it has always done that, and it will keep doing that
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I don't think Bitcoin price will plunge, altcoin will only need to go and meet Bitcoin at the top, there are some prjection that by March 2018, Bitcoin will be at $10k
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History always repeats itself, because people suddenly aren't going to become rational investors and leave their emotions aside. As soon as bitcoin starts falling, people will panic sell, and sell orders will be filled as well. The alts will rise because that's happened time after time again. People expect it, so it'll be a self fulfilling prophecy.
Either way, none of us can predict the future, we'll see.

Happy trading!
Digital market is a volatile one and yeah past has a good way of reflecting but don't you think so people are getting aware of the fact that after every dump in the price of bitcoin, its value skyrockets and now people will be more careful during the dip.

They won't repeat their past mistakes. At least some of them will not do panic selling out. Investors trust bitcoin now more than ever.

Old investors might not make the same mistakes, but new investors will. Also, the whales will cash out billions when bitcoin hits 6K, and they'll buy the alts that are so damn low right now to make even more billions in a matter of weeks. That's the way it's always been, and there really isn't an easier way to double or triple your money in a very short period of time
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But I think Bitcoin has started a new upward cycle that will bring it well over $ 6,000; in my opinion, it will grow for this whole month of October and until mid-November, when the next segwit2x fork will approach.
I believe that in those days Bitcoin can do intraday tricks up to $ 8,000-9,000, then go down violently as you say, and maybe go to touch the old ATH at $ 5,000 that he just broke right now.

If you look even in the past, after the big growths, when bitcoin collapses it drops by at least 40%. The $ 8,000-9,000 range with a 40% drop just goes up to the $ 5,000 of the old ATH.

In any case, it will be an interesting month, and perhaps a blood bath for Alt  Grin

It's hard to say how bitcoin will go this time. There's no way to know really. This could be the top, or $7000 could be it, hell even $10000.

But what seems rather clear is that sooner or later, the cycle will end and then alts will rise again. I don't believe this is the end of altcoins as we know them. Maybe eventually most alts will die, but I think after BTC takes a break, alts will rise again an those that bought the right one when they were really low, will make pretty sweet gains.
The cycle will most definitely end. August fork came with its own huge dips and immediately after the fork and some few days passed, we started noticing some good turn for most of the altcoin. However, this plunge this time around was huge due to the huge bullish stunts btc pulled with the high percentage run. One thing I know for sure is that the market as a whole is really getting big.
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You don't need to be a genius to predict that BTC will face a correction, it's pretty natural. It's price rose due to money flow from alts to btc. And once the majority of such investors take their profits, they will sell their btc, and move back to altcoins or even fiat, then we will see a correction to support level
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With Bitcoin rising so fast and the alts losing so much due to a number of factors (bitcoingold and upcoming segwitx2, among others), I can't help but wonder WHEN it'll all come crashing back down. Obviously the alts are in a perfect accumulation state (already doubled my holdings of most alts including SONM), so I'm really not too worried about it, but this is a rise that cannot sustain itself.

My guess is by the end of october bitcoin will have dropped back from 6K to about 4.5K, which means about 20-25 billion dollars will flow out of the market, and some will flow right back into the cheap yet durable alts like NEO, SONM, ETH, LTC, ...

What do you guys think?
This your speculation may happen but I don't think bitcoin is going to dump to as low as $4500. I doubt if we would get to that level before end of this year. However, funds are going to flow back into alternative coins market from fiat and bitcoin market as many traders will definitely take profits from the recent up rising of bitcoin price. Sigwit2x activation and all the hardfork issues are going to push bitcoin price up like it happened during the last one in August this year. Moreso, we may experience both bitcoin and altcoins market getting pump as it happened after first of August splitting.

Depends on where it goes before the dip. It usually loses about 30% after an insane rally like this one
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With Bitcoin rising so fast and the alts losing so much due to a number of factors (bitcoingold and upcoming segwitx2, among others), I can't help but wonder WHEN it'll all come crashing back down. Obviously the alts are in a perfect accumulation state (already doubled my holdings of most alts including SONM), so I'm really not too worried about it, but this is a rise that cannot sustain itself.

My guess is by the end of october bitcoin will have dropped back from 6K to about 4.5K, which means about 20-25 billion dollars will flow out of the market, and some will flow right back into the cheap yet durable alts like NEO, SONM, ETH, LTC, ...

What do you guys think?
This is likely an outcome. Alts are at the best available price to increase holding and to diversify the portfolio with the best potential coins. Even I have bought a lot in recent some days. Bitcoin will definitely gonna have a correction that too most likely to be after fork when everybody would have claimed their BTG. Otherwise a bubble might build up. A correction is always needed after a ridiculous price increase of an asset which is running on demand. But even before BTC price correction, alts will start appreciating as buying activity has already increased.
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With Bitcoin rising so fast and the alts losing so much due to a number of factors (bitcoingold and upcoming segwitx2, among others), I can't help but wonder WHEN it'll all come crashing back down. Obviously the alts are in a perfect accumulation state (already doubled my holdings of most alts including SONM), so I'm really not too worried about it, but this is a rise that cannot sustain itself.

My guess is by the end of october bitcoin will have dropped back from 6K to about 4.5K, which means about 20-25 billion dollars will flow out of the market, and some will flow right back into the cheap yet durable alts like NEO, SONM, ETH, LTC, ...

What do you guys think?
This your speculation may happen but I don't think bitcoin is going to dump to as low as $4500. I doubt if we would get to that level before end of this year. However, funds are going to flow back into alternative coins market from fiat and bitcoin market as many traders will definitely take profits from the recent up rising of bitcoin price. Sigwit2x activation and all the hardfork issues are going to push bitcoin price up like it happened during the last one in August this year. Moreso, we may experience both bitcoin and altcoins market getting pump as it happened after first of August splitting.
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i'm also betting on ETH showing some interesting growth in the coming weeks, after a stagnating period and hopefully a successful fork... we'll see!

I´d strongly advise against doing this!

ETH´s upside is severely limited by all the ICOs. If ETH gains a few % ICOs sell
a part of their raised ETH. There is no way ETH is going to increase substantially while
all these ICOs are interested in cashing out from ETH.

Bitcoin´s recent surge isn´t helping either, because many people realize that Bitcoin
is preferable to all the altcoins.

thanks for the advice. you may have a point, of course, but i remain highly bullish on ETH in the short term. if the Segwitx2 fork will happen, it will probably be contentious, and many big investors may see ETH as a way to hedge their position in BTC away from FUD, sustaining ETH's price. that's at least my bet. as to the mid- to long-term, too many unknown variables to hazard forecasts - you might be right but it might also be taht ICOs will end up bringing extra value to ETH once regulated somehow... we''ll see.
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History always repeats itself, because people suddenly aren't going to become rational investors and leave their emotions aside. As soon as bitcoin starts falling, people will panic sell, and sell orders will be filled as well. The alts will rise because that's happened time after time again. People expect it, so it'll be a self fulfilling prophecy.
Either way, none of us can predict the future, we'll see.

Happy trading!
Digital market is a volatile one and yeah past has a good way of reflecting but don't you think so people are getting aware of the fact that after every dump in the price of bitcoin, its value skyrockets and now people will be more careful during the dip.

They won't repeat their past mistakes. At least some of them will not do panic selling out. Investors trust bitcoin now more than ever.
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With Bitcoin rising so fast and the alts losing so much due to a number of factors (bitcoingold and upcoming segwitx2, among others), I can't help but wonder WHEN it'll all come crashing back down.
it is IF it comes down. you know that not everything that goes up, comes down. you can see bitcoin and all the topics that have been posted by many users like you who said "when will it come down" but as you can see, it is still rising.
don't confuse bitcoin's correction with coming down and also don't confuse the pumps that altcoins have with bitcoin's rally.

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Obviously the alts are in a perfect accumulation state (already doubled my holdings of most alts including SONM), so I'm really not too worried about it, but this is a rise that cannot sustain itself.
NOT YET.

i think it is too soon to start buying altcions because not only they have not stopped but also they have not even showed the first signs of slowing down. the drop is in its starting phase.

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My guess is by the end of october bitcoin will have dropped back from 6K to about 4.5K, which means about 20-25 billion dollars will flow out of the market, and some will flow right back into the cheap yet durable alts like NEO, SONM, ETH, LTC, ...

What do you guys think?
first it has to go to $6000, and it depends on how it will get there. if it is the current trend and if 6k is reached in a short time (like in a week) then obviously it will fall.
if it takes a longer time with some corrections on the way up, the drop will become less and less likely and smaller correction only.

also remember than not all the money goes back to altcoins. many will go back to fiat.
that doesn't mean alts won't come back though.

History always repeats itself, because people suddenly aren't going to become rational investors and leave their emotions aside. As soon as bitcoin starts falling, people will panic sell, and sell orders will be filled as well. The alts will rise because that's happened time after time again. People expect it, so it'll be a self fulfilling prophecy.
Either way, none of us can predict the future, we'll see.

Happy trading!
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With Bitcoin rising so fast and the alts losing so much due to a number of factors (bitcoingold and upcoming segwitx2, among others), I can't help but wonder WHEN it'll all come crashing back down.
it is IF it comes down. you know that not everything that goes up, comes down. you can see bitcoin and all the topics that have been posted by many users like you who said "when will it come down" but as you can see, it is still rising.
don't confuse bitcoin's correction with coming down and also don't confuse the pumps that altcoins have with bitcoin's rally.

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Obviously the alts are in a perfect accumulation state (already doubled my holdings of most alts including SONM), so I'm really not too worried about it, but this is a rise that cannot sustain itself.
NOT YET.

i think it is too soon to start buying altcions because not only they have not stopped but also they have not even showed the first signs of slowing down. the drop is in its starting phase.

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My guess is by the end of october bitcoin will have dropped back from 6K to about 4.5K, which means about 20-25 billion dollars will flow out of the market, and some will flow right back into the cheap yet durable alts like NEO, SONM, ETH, LTC, ...

What do you guys think?
first it has to go to $6000, and it depends on how it will get there. if it is the current trend and if 6k is reached in a short time (like in a week) then obviously it will fall.
if it takes a longer time with some corrections on the way up, the drop will become less and less likely and smaller correction only.

also remember than not all the money goes back to altcoins. many will go back to fiat.
that doesn't mean alts won't come back though.
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